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Old 21-04-2013, 19:27
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david camorn is so out of touch with the real world living, he is one of the biggest bankers ,going
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Old 21-04-2013, 19:30
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Nobody is going to starve. That is the point I was making before, if you are truly starving you will buy food. You just need to see some of those pictures of the poor in other countries rummaging through rubbish tips looking for anything to eat. They are starving, they aren't looking for booze or fags.

The system was working fine before and I'm not aware of masses of people on benefits starving in the past because they chose to spend all their money on anything other than food.

This all really comes from the false propaganda that people on benefits live a life of luxury and spend all their money on drink and tobacco. It's shameful that so many intelligent people seem to fall for it every time.
The system before was to issue crisis loans that had to be paid back & the claimant had to go to collect a giro cheque from DWP, which had to be cashed in a post office, where they might not want the cashier or other customers knowing about their need for a crisis loan.
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Old 21-04-2013, 19:43
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The system before was to issue crisis loans that had to be paid back & the claimant had to go to collect a giro cheque from DWP, which had to be cashed in a post office, where they might not want the cashier or other customers knowing about their need for a crisis loan.
but it was not just crisis loans that giro cheque were used for, my cold weather payment only this year were put into my bank, A post office is not the same as a supermarket thousands of benefit claimants still use the post office to get there benefits using the post office card
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Old 21-04-2013, 20:42
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That is because you can produce no facts to back up your beliefs. Some figures would be nice. Otherwise it just seems, to me and to others, that you are just following the right wing agenda of demonising the poor. You brought it up , so you back it up with some facts.
i did. i posted a bbc link. and i quoted the relevant section from that link. if you don't like the facts from that link, then complain to the BBC.


Strange how now schools use a credit card system that is the same even if your on free school means, no one stands out at all.
technology does move forward you know.

You would think that they are trying not to stigmatise people
or taking advantage of modern technology.

Are you speaking from experience? if not how do you know what it feels like to the recipients, have you ever seriously discussed it with them or been involved in helping at a food bank?
i have no experience of using food banks, yet i have shopped in charity shops many times. i have never felt shame, embarrassment or felt i was stigmatised.

i have given food in the past to the church for harvest festival. and we give clothes and books on regular occasions to the local charity shops.

i have never helped out at a food bank, as there are none around our area. therefore i have never spoken to someone who uses a foodbank, but i will bet you any amount of money you like that not everyone who does use them feels shame or embarrassment or feels stigmatised. to do so would be a huge generalisation.
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Old 21-04-2013, 20:46
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Only the Tories could see the rise of food banks as being a good thing!
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Old 21-04-2013, 20:50
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Only the Tories could see the rise of food banks as being a good thing!
conservatives together evil forever
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Old 21-04-2013, 20:53
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Poor Britons ‘Most Obese in Europe’

http://tbgweightloss.wordpress.com/2...ese-in-europe/

Im not seeing much evidence of "starving families" when I walk past mcdonalds and see the ground floor packed with prams.

And before anyone tries to claim the poor are forced to eat cheap high calorie foods - water or milk is far cheaper than fizzy drinks, fruit is cheaper than crisps or chocolate or something from greggs and cooking simple meals are usually cheaper than ready meals and certainly cheaper than takeaways. These are the foods I see going in mums trolleys and being given to there kids.

And dont get me started on smoking..
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Old 21-04-2013, 21:07
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Im not seeing much evidence of "starving families" when I walk past mcdonalds and see the ground floor packed with prams.

And before anyone tries to claim the poor are forced to eat cheap high calorie foods - water or milk is far cheaper than fizzy drinks, fruit is cheaper than crisps or chocolate or something from greggs and cooking simple meals are usually cheaper than ready meals and certainly cheaper than takeaways. These are the foods I see going in mums trolleys and being given to there kids.

And dont get me started on smoking..
ready meals are cheaper than buying fresh food. On friday I got three of them for £2.65 1 wes 60p orher 66,p 3rd was 99 p
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Old 22-04-2013, 18:03
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ready meals are cheaper than buying fresh food. On friday I got three of them for £2.65 1 wes 60p orher 66,p 3rd was 99 p
No, they're not.
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Old 22-04-2013, 18:14
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Im not seeing much evidence of "starving families" when I walk past mcdonalds and see the ground floor packed with prams.

And before anyone tries to claim the poor are forced to eat cheap high calorie foods - water or milk is far cheaper than fizzy drinks, fruit is cheaper than crisps or chocolate or something from greggs and cooking simple meals are usually cheaper than ready meals and certainly cheaper than takeaways. These are the foods I see going in mums trolleys and being given to there kids.

And dont get me started on smoking..
So you would be happy that mcdonalds goes bust and throw thousands of more on the unemployment list, strange people who want to see more people unemployed
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Old 22-04-2013, 18:20
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You are so wrong . I could not get three days dinners. For £2.65 if I buy fresh food.
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Old 22-04-2013, 19:09
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i did. i posted a bbc link. and i quoted the relevant section from that link. if you don't like the facts from that link, then complain to the BBC.




technology does move forward you know.



or taking advantage of modern technology.



i have no experience of using food banks, yet i have shopped in charity shops many times. i have never felt shame, embarrassment or felt i was stigmatised.

i have given food in the past to the church for harvest festival. and we give clothes and books on regular occasions to the local charity shops.

i have never helped out at a food bank, as there are none around our area. therefore i have never spoken to someone who uses a foodbank, but i will bet you any amount of money you like that not everyone who does use them feels shame or embarrassment or feels stigmatised. to do so would be a huge generalisation.
You quoted a piece on rent arrears and not on starving people
spending their money on, and I quote " booze and fags" . Then you claim people are not stigmatised when , by your opinions, you are stigmatising people as feckless individuals spending their money on fags and booze, an assertion that you seem to be unable to back up with figures. And because of that , unsubstantiated view, you wish to control people on what they can buy and where they can buy it. As I said it smacks of control freakery, to be polite
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Old 22-04-2013, 19:25
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ready meals are cheaper than buying fresh food. On friday I got three of them for £2.65 1 wes 60p orher 66,p 3rd was 99 p
Maybe, but are they fit for human consumption ?
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Old 23-04-2013, 18:20
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You are so wrong . I could not get three days dinners. For £2.65 if I buy fresh food.
No I'm not, you are.
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Old 24-04-2013, 15:12
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You are so wrong . I could not get three days dinners. For £2.65 if I buy fresh food.
Nonsense, go to Tesco and do a costing exercise, can you cook?
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Old 24-04-2013, 15:22
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No I'm not, you are.
Do noy say I am wrong when its you who is worng. As you can get ready meals below a pound.cheaper than buying fresh food.i buy cheap tesco food so I can have sky.
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