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Old 21-04-2013, 01:31
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"Facebook has begun to remove pages that refer to the North American Man/Boy Love Association following a FoxNews.com exclusive report that revealed the nefarious pedophile advocacy group's presence on the popular social networking site. "

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Old 21-04-2013, 05:24
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The naming by The Sun is nought to do with 'press freedom', the 'right to know', 'public interest' or so called 'secret arrests' it's to do with the tabloids campaign against regulation.

The papers want to present the image of the 'rich & powerful' censoring the press, when it's about running any old story that sells.

Take the arrests within the scope of 'Operation Yewtree', the tabloids and some saliva dripping contributors to this thread are eager to the name and shame the 'celebs' arrested but it's not deemed in the public interest to name the non celebs that have been arrested?

The tabloids and the investigative truth seeking shape shifting lizards are exactly the same, if it ain't a celeb or a notorious case their interest wanes.

The Mail & Sun want to return to the days when they had the freedom to write whatever they like about whoever they dodn't like...the 'extremely rich and powerful' owners of The Sun & The Mail believe they should be above the law and be allowed to hold the courts and fairness of trials in contempt.

Christopher Jefferies was plucked out of obscurity to have the 'dots joined up' and have this publicly flung at him....

THE Sun apologised in court yesterday to ex-schoolmaster Christopher Jefferies for false suggestions he might have killed his former tenant Joanna Yeates, acted inappropriately towards pupils in the past, invaded his tenantsí privacy, was associated with a convicted paedophile and might have been involved in an unsolved murder in 1974.

We accepted these allegations were untrue and that Mr Jefferies in fact helped the police with their inquiries as best he could.
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Old 21-04-2013, 13:58
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I did distinguish between mild "groping"/bottom pinching/ cuddle types and full sexual abuse. Bottom pinching was regarded as the norm if you visited Italy in the 60s/70s. Don't tell me it isn't the same now as I am fully aware of that. PC is now crazy and as a feminist in the 60s who fought for equal pay and equal rights I find the current pathetic attitude to being whistled at or having your bottom pinched very silly. Grow up and take compliments. There is no feminism today. It has died and been taken over by women who cannot be feminine.

I find your general comments patronising. I was in private with Rolf as it was in a TV studio and there were times when no one else was around. You don't know so don't comment.

I would rather see some of the alleged politicians questioned. What has happened re the North Wales care home investigation? This side has gone quiet and yet the celebs are still being brought in. It is easy to get them and hard to get through the walls protecting the political and public figures.
Well said SC4.

The bit in bold is extremely important and, in my view, the key to why the media are so nervous about this whole issue.
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Old 21-04-2013, 16:42
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(Rolf Harris) its been documented that he suffers from depression
I remember him having a meltdown on TV-AM or GMTV or whatever one of the BBC/ITV morning things was called at the time, when they played Mike & The Mechanics "The Living Years".
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Old 21-04-2013, 18:50
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Press intrusion: Don't name suspects in the media until charged, urges MP.
Robert Buckland calls for reporting restrictions to be imposed as controversy over 'secret arrests' grows.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013...-name-suspects

Totally agree. It's non productive and hugely unfair and stressful for any innocent people being named.
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Old 21-04-2013, 19:08
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The naming by The Sun is nought to do with 'press freedom', the 'right to know', 'public interest' or so called 'secret arrests' it's to do with the tabloids campaign against regulation.

The papers want to present the image of the 'rich & powerful' censoring the press, when it's about running any old story that sells.

Take the arrests within the scope of 'Operation Yewtree', the tabloids and some saliva dripping contributors to this thread are eager to the name and shame the 'celebs' arrested but it's not deemed in the public interest to name the non celebs that have been arrested?

The tabloids and the investigative truth seeking shape shifting lizards are exactly the same, if it ain't a celeb or a notorious case their interest wanes.

The Mail & Sun want to return to the days when they had the freedom to write whatever they like about whoever they dodn't like...the 'extremely rich and powerful' owners of The Sun & The Mail believe they should be above the law and be allowed to hold the courts and fairness of trials in contempt.

Christopher Jefferies was plucked out of obscurity to have the 'dots joined up' and have this publicly flung at him....
I'm guessing the apology was buried away on page 10? I heard one of the recommendations of the Levenson report includes making such apologies much more prominent in newspapers, which is a good thing.

I remember him having a meltdown on TV-AM or GMTV or whatever one of the BBC/ITV morning things was called at the time, when they played Mike & The Mechanics "The Living Years".
Really? wow
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Old 21-04-2013, 19:28
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Jim Davidson slams police in Cwmbran show

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Old 21-04-2013, 20:26
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I remember him having a meltdown on TV-AM or GMTV or whatever one of the BBC/ITV morning things was called at the time, when they played Mike & The Mechanics "The Living Years".
I cry when I hear that song - even when I'm driving. It is a very emotional song. No other song has that affect on me.
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Old 21-04-2013, 20:48
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I cry when I hear that song - even when I'm driving. It is a very emotional song. No other song has that affect on me.
Me too. Mike Rutherford couldn't even bring himself to sing it which is why Paul Carrack took the lead. What makes it so sad is it's how Mike really felt about his dad, but never got the chance to tell him while he was alive. Very sad song.
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Old 21-04-2013, 21:10
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Me too. Mike Rutherford couldn't even bring himself to sing it which is why Paul Carrack took the lead. What makes it so sad is it's how Mike really felt about his dad, but never got the chance to tell him while he was alive. Very sad song.
I defy anyone to get to the end of that song without having goose pimples. It is so emotional.
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Old 21-04-2013, 21:21
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Me too. Mike Rutherford couldn't even bring himself to sing it which is why Paul Carrack took the lead. What makes it so sad is it's how Mike really felt about his dad, but never got the chance to tell him while he was alive. Very sad song.
Actually Mike Rutherford was never really the singer in Mike and The Mechanics, He was the writer and guitarist. Paul Carrack and the Late Paul Young (different one), were the main singers, It was also written with BA Robertson. Most of the Lyrics came from him as like mike he too had lost his father at the time.
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Old 21-04-2013, 22:23
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Actually Mike Rutherford was never really the singer in Mike and The Mechanics, He was the writer and guitarist. Paul Carrack and the Late Paul Young (different one), were the main singers, It was also written with BA Robertson. Most of the Lyrics came from him as like mike he too had lost his father at the time.
I didn't know BA Robertson wrote it!! I just read on Wiki that "The Mike + The Mechanics version was initially promoted to give the impression about the disagreements between Rutherford and his father, who had recently died." That's why I'd always assumed it was about Mike's father. A moving song no matter who it was about though.
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Old 21-04-2013, 22:24
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I defy anyone to get to the end of that song without having goose pimples. It is so emotional.
I know. It really is.
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Old 22-04-2013, 17:41
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22244494
Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams has denied withholding information about alleged child sex abuse to save his political skin.

Child abuse is "above politics" and saving his skin was "no consideration whatsoever," he told Belfast Crown Court.

He was giving evidence at the trial of his brother, Liam, who denies 10 charges of sexually abusing his daughter Aine.
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Old 22-04-2013, 23:22
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Detectives on Operation Fernbridge are investigating their own watchdog over claims that it failed to examine allegations of child sex abuse at Richmond.

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Old 23-04-2013, 12:20
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A man has been arrested by Operation Pallial officers conducting an investigation into recent allegations of historic child abuse in North Wales
The man was arrested in Ipswich, Suffolk, on suspicion of a number of serious sexual offences against a number of individuals.
The man is being taken from Ipswich to a police station in North Wales, where he will be interviewed.
This is the first arrest by Operation Pallial, which began investigations in November 2012. The investigation is led by Detective Superintendent Ian Mulcahey of Merseyside Police, supported by officers and staff from the Serious Organised Crime Agency, Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre and forces across the country.
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Old 23-04-2013, 13:46
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rape conviction rate improves
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Old 24-04-2013, 01:03
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Rennard investigation
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Old 24-04-2013, 20:36
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Freddie Starr has been arrested on suspicion of further sexual offences, reports @lucymanning: http://itv.co/15Hzyjp
https://twitter.com/itvnews/statuses/327140179204767745

Freddie Starr has been arrested again on suspicion of further sexual offences. He has been bailed until June #yewtree
https://twitter.com/lucymanning/stat...39334992044032
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Old 24-04-2013, 21:14
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Seems it will not end
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Old 25-04-2013, 05:53
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I suppose the police have a time limit to release or charge all who have been arrested so far for these allegations. So if they need time to look through the information or fresh claims will lead to rearrests. I guess all those arrested will need to either be charged soon or charges dropped.
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Old 25-04-2013, 08:23
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I suppose the police have a time limit to release or charge all who have been arrested so far for these allegations. So if they need time to look through the information or fresh claims will lead to rearrests. I guess all those arrested will need to either be charged soon or charges dropped.
Apparently not.
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Old 25-04-2013, 10:53
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I find the current pathetic attitude to being whistled at or having your bottom pinched very silly. Grow up and take compliments. There is no feminism today. It has died and been taken over by women who cannot be feminine.
There is a big difference between being whistled at and being groped. I've experienced both and whilst being whistled at didn't bother me at all, in fact it made me laugh, being groped did. Why should I have to tolerate a stranger invading my personal space and touching me intimately just because I happen to be walking past them? I don't go around doing it to others, I keep my hands to myself, so why should they do it to me? I certainly don't take it as a compliment and I don't see that it makes me unfeminine to respect my body and make my own decisions as to who touches it or not.
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Old 25-04-2013, 19:04
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Catholic child abuse: 164 allegations against 85 priests have led to zero convictions

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/cath...83536-Apr2013/
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Old 25-04-2013, 19:15
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Catholic child abuse: 164 allegations against 85 priests have led to zero convictions

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/cath...83536-Apr2013/
Some questions on that report, which I think are needed to make sense of it.
1) how many of those 98 priests are still alive?
2) how many were still alive at the time the first allegation was made to the police?
3) how many of those accused have only one allegation made against them?

It's hard to see how a conviction could be obtained when it is simply the word of one person against another and relates to events that are decades old. Even harder if the accused is dead. Or to put it another way, how many of those 98 men are still alive and have multiple allegations made against them? They are the most troubling cases.
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