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Old 25-04-2013, 22:14
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Lib Dem chief whip meets Hancock sex accuser
http://blogs.channel4.com/michael-cr...x-accuser/2414
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Old 26-04-2013, 06:54
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BBB, The Media Show, should people arrested be named.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s0dkp

Trevor Kavanagh Associate Editor of The Sun explained why the paper did not originally name Rolf Harris.

"The reason we did not publish his name when it became widely known is because we did not have enough evidence. We weren't sure until the last moment when we finally decided to go ahead with the publication, that was the reason we did not publish. Once we did know we did not see why this should not be in the public domain."
So was former Surrey police officer Mark William Thomas shooting from the hip last November?

Bearing in mind numerous colleagues of Kavanagh have recently been arrested, some of whom have been charged, he asked why do the police always have to arrest, rather than calling people in to help them with their enquiries. In that case he said there would be no reason to name a person.

He's arguement about a secret police state falls flat on its face, as there's nothing to stop an arrested person themselves informing the media.

To dismiss the idea newspapers imply there's no smoke without fire when someone is arrested. Kavanagh said police do not arrest smoke. He seems to have forgotten his own papers treatment of Christopher Jefferies.
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Old 26-04-2013, 13:53
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Fat lot of use the enhanced CRB checks are

Teacher, 52, secretly filmed children undressing in dormitories then shared videos with other paedophiles

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...edophiles.html

four and a half years, means he's back out in two and a quarter

Since he shows no remorse... should have been given an indeterminate sentence
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Old 26-04-2013, 14:56
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Fat lot of use the enhanced CRB checks are
What?

There's no evidence in that newspaper report of him having any previous criminal record or warnings. Have you mis-understood what a CRB check provides?


What Does an Enhanced Disclosure Show?

It will show details of all Cautions, Warnings, Reprimands and Convictions held on an individualís criminal record. It will also search whether the applicant is on the children / vulnerable adults Barred Lists. The Barred Lists are a list of the names of individuals that are barred by law from working with children or vulnerable adults. It is an offence for any individuals on the Barred Lists to work / seek employment with children or vulnerable adults. The Enhanced CRB Check also has a section for ĎOther Relevant Police Informationí where the applicantís local police force can add any further notes should they deem it relevant
He's now banned from working with children, which should flag up on any future CRB check.

He was jailed for four and a half years, put on the sex offenders' register indefinitely, banned from working with children and made subject to a sexual offences prevention order controlling his use of the Internet.
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Old 26-04-2013, 15:53
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What?

There's no evidence in that newspaper report of him having any previous criminal record or warnings. Have you mis-understood what a CRB check provides?




He's now banned from working with children, which should flag up on any future CRB check.
On future ones yes, but its not the fix all that some think it is as someone can have a clean CRB yet be abusing kids until such time as they are caught. And then of course you have the countless people where Capita employees have incorrectly entered data info which prevents innocent people getting a job.
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Old 26-04-2013, 16:11
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Mark Williams-Thomas, the criminologist and investigative journalist who worked closely on ITVís Jimmy Savile Exposure film, has struck an exclusive deal with Shiver, the factual division of ITV Studios.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/p...&contentID=870
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Old 26-04-2013, 19:08
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Old 26-04-2013, 19:30
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Terrible news for Max Clifford. He wont be able to continue and represent. Basically he's finished.
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The David Icke forum is rather busy. (Washes mouth out with soap and water)
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Old 26-04-2013, 19:39
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But it must be ok to link to the Digital Spy story about an extremely well known silver haired publicist having been charged?

If not then you might as well close down your forums and tweeter account...and will the last person switch off the computer.
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Old 26-04-2013, 21:10
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Terrible news for Max Clifford. He wont be able to continue and represent. Basically he's finished.
He deserves the chance to go to court and prove himself innocent.
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Old 26-04-2013, 21:43
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Old 26-04-2013, 22:05
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Does he who shall not be named have a stake holding in Digital Spy perchance?
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Does he?
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Old 26-04-2013, 22:23
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Can someone help me to understand why someone would wait 47 years before accusing someone of assault? It makes no sense to me on any level other than a greedy, opportunistic moron striking while it's hot.
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Old 26-04-2013, 22:35
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Can someone help me to understand why someone would wait 47 years before accusing someone of assault? It makes no sense to me on any level other than a greedy, opportunistic moron striking while it's hot.
Fear? Trying to deal with the awful things that happened to them? People in authority not doing anything if they came forward?

The Savile investigations have given genuine victims the courage to come forward.

The story about he who cannot be mentioned is writ large on the front pages tomorrow.
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Old 26-04-2013, 22:40
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Fear? Trying to deal with the awful things that happened to them? People in authority not doing anything if they came forward?

The Savile investigations have given genuine victims the courage to come forward.

The story about he who cannot be mentioned is writ large on the front pages tomorrow.
Yes, I do get all that, but still...47 years!!! That surely has to be ridiculous by any reasonable standards, right?
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Old 26-04-2013, 22:45
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Yes, I do get all that, but still...47 years!!! That surely has to be ridiculous by any reasonable standards, right?
No it isn't. What's ridiculous is making sweeping statements about victims of sex crimes. It's brave of them to come forward.

Let the courts decide whether these particular accusations are sound in due course.
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Old 26-04-2013, 22:48
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No it isn't. What's ridiculous is making sweeping statements about victims of sex crimes. It's brave of them to come forward.

Let the courts decide whether these particular accusations are sound in due course.
Well, I can't understand it I'm afraid - and I consider myself very much on the side of victims. I can understand waiting to a point, certainly, but not 47 years. We're probably going to have to agree to disagree, but thanks for responding to my initial question.
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:06
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Let the courts decide. He deserves his day at court.
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:24
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Can someone help me to understand why someone would wait 47 years before accusing someone of assault? It makes no sense to me on any level other than a greedy, opportunistic moron striking while it's hot.
Like with Savile, evidence may come to light that the alleged victims did in fact go to police at the time or some time afterwards and weren't taken seriously.
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:28
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Let the courts decide. He deserves his day at court.
He didn't afford the same courtesy to Neil and Christine Hamilton in the Nadine Milroy-Sloane affair but two wrongs don't make a right.
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:29
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Like with Savile, evidence may come to light that the alleged victims did in fact go to police at the time or some time afterwards and weren't taken seriously.
Or like the Surrey cases, the police didn't tell the victim that there were other victims too, so they thought they'd be on their own and so not willing to go to court.
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