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Old 26-04-2013, 23:32
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Or like the Surrey cases, the police didn't tell the victim that there were other victims too, so they thought they'd be on their own and so not willing to go to court.
Quite.

It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out. Will blackmail be used by certain individuals?
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:35
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Extraordinary turn of events concerning the gentleman currently in the news. Normally he would be advising celebs how to best handle such a calamitous series of headlines and now he's the subject of said headlines himself.....it's a strange old world.
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Old 26-04-2013, 23:36
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Quite.

It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out. Will blackmail be used by certain individuals?
I suspect there will be some nervous celebs out there because of this.
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Old 27-04-2013, 01:19
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I'm guessing the apology was buried away on page 10? I heard one of the recommendations of the Levenson report includes making such apologies much more prominent in newspapers, which is a good thing.
They should make the apology the same size and position as the original false article.
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Old 27-04-2013, 02:34
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They should make the apology the same size and position as the original false article.
I am of the same opinion and if a story took the front page and more inside then they shoudld devote the same amount to the apology, and if that means just pages of the words "we are sorry" so be it, it may make them think tiwice before printing speculation and at times completely false information just to sensationalise and get readers.

The only time when a smaller apology (not having to take the same space) on the front page may be ok is when they it could not be expected for any reasonable person to have thought differently with the information at hand
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Old 27-04-2013, 07:01
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It does seem Max Clifford will be one of the high profile cases in all the famous arrests when it goes to court?

You can tell by how it's reported. Fair trail for all needs to be conducted which includes those who have made a complaint.
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Old 27-04-2013, 08:25
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Are we allowed to name "he who won't be named" yet? As much as I dislike people's names being banded about the media when we're supposed to presume innocence before guilt, DS is awful if they let forum member's name some of the accused but not others. How is that right in any decent society?

Also, can I apologise for my comments yesterday? In the clear light of day I realise I was being really ignorant and unfairly judgemental towards the victims, which I now feel rather embarrassed about. Sorry to anyone I might have offended.
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Old 27-04-2013, 08:52
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Has Jimmy Savile been able to defend his name yet? - Oh I forgot-he is dead so anything goes with regards to Savile
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Old 27-04-2013, 10:04
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I doubt the women will named.
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Old 27-04-2013, 10:39
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Are we allowed to name "he who won't be named" yet
If you mean the person named in the immediately preceding post to yours, obviously we can. What we can't do is discuss the case, given that such discussions almost immediately stray into contempt of court and/or libel.
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Old 27-04-2013, 10:45
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These guys need to take a lesson from Big Boy Barry

It's fine to live it large, but always make sure she's legal first.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:13
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Jimmy Savile was the "tip of the iceberg"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-iceberg.html
Interesting links with Jersey.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:15
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"In February, it published a report that found a Sapphire unit, in Southwark, south-east London, had "encouraged" victims to withdraw rape allegations to boost detection rates in 2008-09. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22300360
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:15
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These guys need to take a lesson from Big Boy Barry

It's fine to live it large, but always make sure she's legal first.
What if she lies?
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:20
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No it isn't. What's ridiculous is making sweeping statements about victims of sex crimes. It's brave of them to come forward.

Let the courts decide whether these particular accusations are sound in due course.
Hear, hear. Why must alleged victims so often be accused of money-grabbing with no evidence by people trying to take the high moral ground?
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:21
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What if she lies?
If you're not 100% sure, then keep it zipped up.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:21
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What if she lies?
Then don't take the risk, if there's any doubt.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:27
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Clifford is the establishment's scapegoat. He's got too much dirt on too many people and this is a good opportunity to get rid of him.

Several videos of Clifford admitting covering up sex abuse scandals for senior politicians have been sent to the Met, but they don't seem to be targeting anybody big.

Clifford, Rolf Harris, some unknown comedian who was friends with Gary Glitter. These minor showbiz celebs are just to keep the ignorant masses shocked yet satisfied.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:27
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Tonight: two reports by @ExaroNews shedding further light on child sex abuse in Richmond 30 years ago. #Fernbridge http://www.exaronews.com
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:30
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Yes, I do get all that, but still...47 years!!! That surely has to be ridiculous by any reasonable standards, right?
Maybe money is a factor too in some cases.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:30
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Clifford is the establishment's scapegoat. He's got too much dirt on too many people and this is a good opportunity to get rid of him.

Several videos of Clifford admitting covering up sex abuse scandals for senior politicians have been sent to the Met, but they don't seem to be targeting anybody big.

Clifford, Rolf Harris, some unknown comedian who was friends with Gary Glitter. These minor showbiz celebs are just to keep the ignorant masses shocked yet satisfied.
Now is the time for him to speak out LOUDLY naming and shaming those he claims he's covered up for. They should all go down together if the evidence so exists.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:33
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Hear, hear. Why must alleged victims so often be accused of money-grabbing with no evidence by people trying to take the high moral ground?
The poster has apologised. See below:

Are we allowed to name "he who won't be named" yet? As much as I dislike people's names being banded about the media when we're supposed to presume innocence before guilt, DS is awful if they let forum member's name some of the accused but not others. How is that right in any decent society?

Also, can I apologise for my comments yesterday? In the clear light of day I realise I was being really ignorant and unfairly judgemental towards the victims, which I now feel rather embarrassed about. Sorry to anyone I might have offended.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:36
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Max Clifford.....asking for privacy.


It's like ten thousand spoons....when all you need is a knife!
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:37
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Now is the time for him to speak out LOUDLY naming and shaming those he claims he's covered up for. They should all go down together if the evidence so exists.
The names are already out there but the Digital Spy moderation would not have it. All I will say is that when you have a hotel that was visited by sex abusers and then some showbiz celebs and big-time politicians, the the latter groups deserved to at least be investigated.

Not one arrest. Not a whimper of an investigation by either police or media.
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Old 27-04-2013, 11:41
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Jimmy Savile was the "tip of the iceberg"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...e-iceberg.html
Interesting links with Jersey.
So why are they only going after male celebrities of certain ages? What about the politicians and royals? There will doubtless be some with scandals to their names, it's the way of these things.
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