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Old 02-05-2013, 21:21
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He looks off his head here: http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/bbc_..._hall_1969.jpg

Not excusing his behaviour but he always seemed a bit other worldly.
As in the world of paedophiles?
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Old 02-05-2013, 21:28
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People always say "I never would have guessed" or "You could never tell by meeting him" when criminal activity is exposed, but come on, let's face it, sometimes you can. Anyone who even saw a picture of Jimmy Savile must have had an instinct that something just wasn't right there.
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Old 02-05-2013, 21:36
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What we have to remember in cases like this one. The 1970s and 1980s were a different time in regards child abuse. The child had to stand up in court and face their attacker, then the defence council would start on them.

Most Child abuse cases fell apart back then because the child just could not handle the court and thats why video conferencing was introduced.

I'm guessing the people who by the 80s were now adults they thought Ill let this go.

Saville though I maintain he knew what the police cheifs may have got up to and that was how he kept it quiet.
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Old 02-05-2013, 21:42
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People always say "I never would have guessed" or "You could never tell by meeting him" when criminal activity is exposed, but come on, let's face it, sometimes you can. Anyone who even saw a picture of Jimmy Savile must have had an instinct that something just wasn't right there.
But it wasn't just the look of Savile, which I admit was odd, it was all the other stuff as well. The mother obsession, no known relationships the working with vunerable people and children, the motor home etc.The phrase 'hiding in plain sight' could have been coined just for him. Hall, however, appeared to be a family man.
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Old 02-05-2013, 21:51
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But it wasn't just the look of Savile, which I admit was odd, it was all the other stuff as well. The mother obsession, no known relationships the working with vunerable people and children, the motor home etc.The phrase 'hiding in plain sight' could have been coined just for him. Hall, however, appeared to be a family man.
I must be the only one who didnt !!! or maybe just blind I had no blooming idea !!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:05
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People always say "I never would have guessed" or "You could never tell by meeting him" when criminal activity is exposed, but come on, let's face it, sometimes you can. Anyone who even saw a picture of Jimmy Savile must have had an instinct that something just wasn't right there.
He certainly came across as extremely weird in the Louis Theroux documentary....perhaps the first time the mask dropped and we got to see the slightly creepy Savile.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:09
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Good grief. Makes me feel slightly dirty for finding him amusing all these years.
This.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:14
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I'm going to buy It's a Knockout: Here come the Belgians on DVD because I doubt there'll ever be any repeats on TV.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:15
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It will be interesting to see what punishment he gets. Part of me thinks prison would not be right but a huge fine and lots of community service and obviously going on records etc.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:17
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Good grief. Makes me feel slightly dirty for finding him amusing all these years.
No I don't I used to find him annoying TBH.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:18
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his victims should decide the punishment
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:20
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I'm going to buy It's a Knockout: Here come the Belgians on DVD because I doubt there'll ever be any repeats on TV.
I don't see why not did he not just used to do the commentary? Thats easily fixed get someone else to redub it.

Yes he was part of the show but it's like TOTP the show should not be tainted because a perv part presented it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:21
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his victims should decide the punishment
No they have got their justice by him admitting it and his carrer being destroyed.

The courts have to decide its how our law works.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:26
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It will be interesting to see what punishment he gets. Part of me thinks prison would not be right but a huge fine and lots of community service and obviously going on records etc.
He is 81 , how many yrs he has got left? he seems to think because he has admitted it now he is in the last yrs of his life, all is ok , was talking to a friend earlier and we were saying even if he is dead in a few years, his wife, children and grandchildren will live with it forever , so they get the sentence effectively , poor people
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:27
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But it wasn't just the look of Savile, which I admit was odd, it was all the other stuff as well. The mother obsession, no known relationships the working with vunerable people and children, the motor home etc.The phrase 'hiding in plain sight' could have been coined just for him. Hall, however, appeared to be a family man.
JS For me - now, yes. When I was a 6 year old viewer of Jim'll fix it - no......

Hall - agree, didn't see it. Not sure if the 'ego/self assurance' makes them celebrities who do this or if such proclivities/paedophilia is everywhere.

When my child asks me what programmes I watched as a child....
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:28
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One good thing about his confession is that he spared his victims the agony of going to court. If this nasty, nasty peice of work doesn't get sent down it will be an insult to their bravery and a travesty. I really hope all the other 'celebrities' who think they are above the law and decent behaviour are bricking it tonight. Send them all to prison and let the other criminals give them a measure of what they inflicted on those poor women and kids.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:33
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One good thing about his confession is that he spared his victims the agony of going to court. If this nasty, nasty peice of work doesn't get sent down it will be an insult to their bravery and a travesty. I really hope all the other 'celebrities' who think they are above the law and decent behaviour are bricking it tonight. Send them all to prison and let the other criminals give them a measure of what they inflicted on those poor women and kids.
I think there could be a lot of conversations going on at some level about the precedent that will be set with the sentence......(assuming more follow)......
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:35
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People always say "I never would have guessed" or "You could never tell by meeting him" when criminal activity is exposed, but come on, let's face it, sometimes you can. Anyone who even saw a picture of Jimmy Savile must have had an instinct that something just wasn't right there.
Savile was well known before he died, just not the extent. In Leeds, many people were just waiting for it to all come out after he died. I was told in 1990 by a journalist friend (who was told by his news agency) that all would be revealed when he died. I'm just surprised it took so long.

Stuart Hall is a surprise - men in the 70s and early 80s could be very free with their hands, but the 9 yo puts it on a totally different level.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:36
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Apologies if this was already posted:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-8601517.html
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:39
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It will be interesting to see what punishment he gets. Part of me thinks prison would not be right but a huge fine and lots of community service and obviously going on records etc.
It will indeed. He appears not to pose a threat since he has not abused for over 20 years. He is 83 years old. He supposedly has a heart condition which is life threatening. His life and reputation is in tatters . Admitted to the charges and spared the victims having to testify. Mitigation case.
He is guilty of grooming young women. Abused a 9 year old child. abused over many many years and in so doing not only abused, he betrayed friends. Such heinous behaviour must be punished with a prison sentence. Case for the Prosecution.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:45
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I don't see why not did he not just used to do the commentary? Thats easily fixed get someone else to redub it.

Yes he was part of the show but it's like TOTP the show should not be tainted because a perv part presented it.
No, Stuart was It's a Knockout really. He used to appear as well as do the commentary, and his uncontrollable hysterics during the nonsense was what made it funny. I'm pretty sad to be honest.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:47
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No, Stuart was It's a Knockout really. He used to appear as well as do the commentary, and his uncontrollable hysterics during the nonsense was what made it funny. I'm pretty sad to be honest.
Oh I thought Eddie Wearing presented it and Hall did the commentary.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:48
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I don't see why not did he not just used to do the commentary? Thats easily fixed get someone else to redub it.

Yes he was part of the show but it's like TOTP the show should not be tainted because a perv part presented it.
Completely differnet. Top of the Pops was about the musicians and the singers, it didn't matter who presented it. I can enjoy an old ep of the programme without the presenter links and chart rundowns.

It's a Knockout, I think, was successful almost entirely due to the charisma of Hall. It's basically a pile of shite, and the conceit seemed to be that Hall knew it was a pile of shite, but an amusing pile of shite. So, like Wogan with Eurovision, he stamped it so totally with his personality that the programme is his.

They've tried reviving it with people like Chegwin and Frank Bruno presenting, and it's never been successful, because the actual format isn't really very good.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:50
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No, Stuart was It's a Knockout really. He used to appear as well as do the commentary, and his uncontrollable hysterics during the nonsense was what made it funny. I'm pretty sad to be honest.
indeed.they probably wont show these type of clips again.thats a lot of peoples entertainment spoiled because of these allegations.luckily,theres still youtube.
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Old 02-05-2013, 22:52
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Custody would be the only sentence I would agree with. The victims live with the consequences of abuse and believe me it is a day in day out struggle. Therefore he should 'live' with the consequences of his actions and that should be in confinement with nothing but 4 cell walls to get an idea of the emotional prison this kind of abuse inflicts on the victims. this confession was a cynical attempt to avoid prison. He's a coward and a sorry excuse for a man.... a picece of filth.
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