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Old 04-05-2013, 23:45
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Had a Louisiana BBQ earlier as I needed something quick and was near a McDonalds.

Tastes like a McDonalds burger with cheese and bacon. There was some sort of sauce on there, but it was incredibly bland, whatever it was (i'm presuming that was the 'BBQ' bit)
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Old 05-05-2013, 23:58
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http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome.html

Louisiana BBQ
Chicago Supreme
Arizona Nacho Grande
California Melt
New York Classic

Essentially, with the exception of the Arizona, they are all Bacon Cheeseburgers in various guises of oval bun, with slightly different sauces.

The Chicago and NY burger are identical aside from the Chicago has salsa and mayo and the NY has mustard, ketchup and mayo. I don't really see how salsa correlates to Chicago at all.
The NY one makes no sense seeing as mustard mixed with ketchup is not a NY thing. I never tasted that kind of combination until I was at least in the middle part of the country, and amusingly enough it was at a McDonalds. Unless, things have changed NY McDonalds chains do not mix mustard with ketchup. As an American I have to ask who is coming up with these ridiculous types of burgers and their names?
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Old 06-05-2013, 14:31
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Just had a Chicago supreme with salsa and it was amazing, get down there right now! Ha, ha Shame there not doing them cheese stick things with the salsa sauce anymore , gutted.
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Old 06-05-2013, 16:10
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Just had a Chicago supreme with salsa and it was amazing, get down there right now! Ha, ha Shame there not doing them cheese stick things with the salsa sauce anymore , gutted.
Check out "burger lad" on twitter @burger_lad
Andhttp://www.burgerlad.com
I thought the promos ran from Wednesday-Tuesday? How have you managed to get a Chicago Supreme, they are not meant to start until this Wednesday?
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Old 06-05-2013, 16:13
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I thought the promos ran from Wednesday-Tuesday? How have you managed to get a Chicago Supreme, they are not meant to start until this Wednesday?
I was just going to ask that!!!
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Old 06-05-2013, 16:38
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So annoying, as a Kickboxer having to cut weight from 13stone to 11stone and my next cheat day is on May 31st so I won't get to try any of these
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Old 06-05-2013, 17:35
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So annoying, as a Kickboxer having to cut weight from 13stone to 11stone and my next cheat day is on May 31st so I won't get to try any of these
You're not really missing much. None of these are exactly innovative burgers. You'd probably get a better quality more fulfilling burger locally. McDonald's is just being lazy.
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Old 06-05-2013, 18:23
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The NY one makes no sense seeing as mustard mixed with ketchup is not a NY thing. I never tasted that kind of combination until I was at least in the middle part of the country, and amusingly enough it was at a McDonalds. Unless, things have changed NY McDonalds chains do not mix mustard with ketchup. As an American I have to ask who is coming up with these ridiculous types of burgers and their names?
Yes, from watching US shows 'Fry Sauce' seems to be more associated with states such as Utah and Idaho
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:32
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Yes, from watching US shows 'Fry Sauce' seems to be more associated with states such as Utah and Idaho
You Brits really need to stop thinking TV shows give you an accurate picture of what America and Americans are like.
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:41
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You Brits really need to stop thinking TV shows give you an accurate picture of what America and Americans are like.
Futher evidence online that fry sauce is associated with those states.
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:42
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they all begin to taste the same after a while
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:45
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Futher evidence online that fry sauce is associated with those states.
Why are you telling an American something about his own country that he is likely to know much more than you would? You are missing the point of my post as it had nothing to do with "fry sauce."
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:46
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they all begin to taste the same after a while
Only if it's mediocre or average.
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:52
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deleted - was posting about wrong thing.
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:53
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Only if it's mediocre or average.
they are all mediocre all though im partial to a bacon cheeseburger or 2
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Old 06-05-2013, 19:59
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they are all mediocre all though im partial to a bacon cheeseburger or 2
Right. Thought you meant burgers in general.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:04
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Why are you telling an American something about his own country that he is likely to know much more than you would? You are missing the point of my post as it had nothing to do with "fry sauce."
Is there any need to be so arrogant?

Knowledge isn't something that is exclusive to location, especially in this day and age.

That aside though, I was under the impression that Fry Sauce was Mayo and Ketchup mixed. The initial comments stemmed from the McDonald's NY burger mixing Mustard and Ketchup, to which you commented this was not a NY thing.

Is a mixture of Mustard and Ketchup a 'thing' anywhere?
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:12
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That aside though, I was under the impression that Fry Sauce was Mayo and Ketchup mixed. The initial comments stemmed from the McDonald's NY burger mixing Mustard and Ketchup, to which you commented this was not a NY thing.

Is a mixture of Mustard and Ketchup a 'thing' anywhere?
Way to make me look stupid. I was actually referring to mayo and ketchup all along.
Doh
Sorry for going off on one about fry sauce
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:25
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I don't really care if you're American or not. A member previously posted about the new range of burgers having little association to the name/region and you mentioned a suace which consists of mixing ketchup and mustard.
In some regions that combination is called fry sauce which is what I posted for anyone who cares to read it.

I was essentially agreeing with you but for some reason you don't seem to like non-US nationals discussing food stuffs from regions around the US.
I simply made a comment about Brits shouldn't be assuming that what they see on our TV shows is an accurate reflection of America and Americans, something you Brits tend to do a lot of, in response to you learning about "fry sauce" from our TV shows. Though it wasn't the point of my post, my comment was also fitting because I never mentioned anything to do with "fry sauce." I said ketchup and mustard. That is not "fry sauce."

I also simply asked why you were trying to teach me something about my own culture that I am much more likely to know than you. When you are talking about the culture of another country and someone from that culture is present and engaged in the conversation the respectful thing to do is to not act like or think you know more about their culture then they do. Since you say you don't care that I am American then unfortunately that explains your presumptuous response.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:30
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I thought the promos ran from Wednesday-Tuesday? How have you managed to get a Chicago Supreme, they are not meant to start until this Wednesday?
Me and the missus went to our Liverpool (by copy lane) and i was expecting the louisania, but they said it was the Chicago supreme . I didnt argue i just ate it, ha

STRANGE! so if your in Liverpool get down there and taste it.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:37
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I simply made a comment about Brits shouldn't be assuming that what they see on our TV shows is an accurate reflection of America and Americans....
I also simply asked why you were trying to teach me something about my own culture that I am much more likely to know than you.
I mixed up mustard and mayo. I blame the hangover.
I apologise for the tone of my previous post.



However, I don't see why if I get information from tv shows (or magazines, books, online articles), from presenters talking to people about their local cuisine then it should be discounted just because i'm not from that region or country.

I have no reason to disbelieve the people being interviewed where they say "Oh yes, this is a regional speciality. You can't come here without trying 'so and so'"


Just in this case I did make a mistake over the condiment in question. Brains do that sometimes.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:39
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Is there any need to be so arrogant?
Actually, I was asking an honest question regarding an "arrogant" response.

Knowledge isn't something that is exclusive to location, especially in this day and age.
Even in this "day and age" when you are discussing the culture of a country it is ridiculously foolish, presumptuous and "arrogant" to think you would know as much or more about a culture of a country than people from that country, and then to the extent that you think you should be schooling them.

That aside though, I was under the impression that Fry Sauce was Mayo and Ketchup mixed. The initial comments stemmed from the McDonald's NY burger mixing Mustard and Ketchup, to which you commented this was not a NY thing.
That's right, I never mentioned "fry sauce," which is mostly mayo and ketchup, and I corrected the poster I was responding to about that.

Is a mixture of Mustard and Ketchup a 'thing' anywhere?
Yes, as I already said.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:42
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Me and the missus went to our Liverpool (by copy lane) and i was expecting the louisania, but they said it was the Chicago supreme . I didnt argue i just ate it, ha

STRANGE! so if your in Liverpool get down there and taste it.
Same down here as it happens. Maybe the BBQ one was so popular that they sold out of the one ingredient that differentiated it from the Chicago, so started early.
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Old 06-05-2013, 20:54
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Actually, I was asking an honest question regarding an "arrogant" response.
I don't think there was an arrogant response.



Even in this "day and age" when you are discussing the culture of a country it is ridiculously foolish, presumptuous and "arrogant" to think you would know as much or more about a culture of a country than people from that country, and then to the extent that you think you should be schooling them.
Nobody was schooling anyone. It was merely a passing comment about TV shows. I don't profess to know every detail of culture about my own country and frankly there is just as much chance that a New York resident and a UK resident could have visited Utah and so each could be equally ignorant or equally qualified to comment on regional specialities.


That's right, I never mentioned "fry sauce," which is mostly mayo and ketchup, and I corrected the poster I was responding to about that.



Yes, as I already said.
Out of interest and to keep the thread on track (to a degree), where is this Mustard/Ketchup mix popular?
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Old 06-05-2013, 21:01
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I mixed up mustard and mayo. I blame the hangover.
I apologise for the tone of my previous post.
Apology accepted. My original post was meant lighthearted, by the way, hence the

However, I don't see why if I get information from tv shows (or magazines, books, online articles), from presenters talking to people about their local cuisine then it should be discounted just because i'm not from that region or country.
Unless the information is varied enough, from proper sources, and in large quantity the information could easily be inaccurate. For example, there are many people that move to New York City, that after a short period of time think they know the "local cuisine" well enough to make general comments about it when in fact they often don't know what they are talking about. These are people living there so they are likely to know more than you do but even they often get it wrong. I see the New York City example all the time as I am a native New Yorker.

I have also often seen your country's celebrity chefs, who's job it is to know about cuisine from around the world, get our cuisine and particular dishes completely wrong.

Ultimately, and I mean this respectfully, it is simply awfully presumptuous to think you are automatically going to know as much or more about the cuisine of a country as someone from that country. If I were talking about British cuisine I couldn't even imagine myself doing that in response to any of you Brits. That's all.
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