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Old 07-05-2013, 09:16
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Tune into Heart or Absolute if you want more music.
Which is fine if you like hearing a small playlist aimed at 30 something females or a small playlist aimed at men that like Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Coldplay played constantly.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:41
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70 years old and still at the top of his game.

Sensational
I'd say he sounds better now than he ever did, just doing his stuff and not trying too hard

A good listen - and this from someone who couldn't stand him for years
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:43
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steve rights sunday love songs is like a religion
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:45
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Which is fine if you like hearing a small playlist aimed at 30 something females or a small playlist aimed at men that like Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Coldplay played constantly.
Well I listend to Absolute yesterday from 10am and they played 111 different songs by 100 different artists, that's some pretty big playlist.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:47
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Well I listend to Absolute yesterday from 10am and they played 111 different songs by 100 different artists, that's some pretty big playlist.
Included the likes of Amy Whitehouse, Dusty Springfield, Adele and Madonna none of whom I was aware were male focussed artists.
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Old 07-05-2013, 13:50
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Included the likes of Amy Whitehouse, Dusty Springfield, Adele and Madonna none of whom I was aware were male focussed artists.
Shame about the endless repetitive adverts...
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Old 07-05-2013, 13:50
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Included the likes of Amy Whitehouse, Dusty Springfield, Adele and Madonna none of whom I was aware were male focussed artists.
Dusty Springfield and Madonna? I have never heard them on their main station. Anyway I meant a playlist that was mainly aimed at a male audience not all the artists being male.
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Old 07-05-2013, 15:58
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Dusty Springfield and Madonna? I have never heard them on their main station. Anyway I meant a playlist that was mainly aimed at a male audience not all the artists being male.
Well Absolute listners voted them in to the top 100 plus Michael Jackson and Elvis, yet more Absolute freindly artists like Pulp, Blur and REM didn't even make the top 100.

Anyway if you flick between Heart and Absolute every 30 mins don't you then end up with quite a good mix of music covering artsists that appeal to both males and females.
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Old 07-05-2013, 16:43
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As TB presented Junior Choice for a few years he would be far better to present Sunday Love Songs (ridiculous name for a programme) and have it as the Sunday request show. SW is such a painful listen more like lets open a vein show.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:37
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Well Absolute listners voted them in to the top 100 plus Michael Jackson and Elvis, yet more Absolute freindly artists like Pulp, Blur and REM didn't even make the top 100.

Anyway if you flick between Heart and Absolute every 30 mins don't you then end up with quite a good mix of music covering artsists that appeal to both males and females.
No not really. I have a bit of time for Absolute because they at least do shows like Soul Time on Absolute 60's and there is the excellent Geoff Lloyd. But I would get incredibly bored switching between the 2 especially Heart which is incredibly dull.
As far as I was concerned Radio 2 had the music and chat balance OK until the BBC Trust interfered and said there had to be more speech. Why? Just to keep the commercial sector happy.
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:06
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As TB presented Junior Choice for a few years he would be far better to present Sunday Love Songs (ridiculous name for a programme) and have it as the Sunday request show. SW is such a painful listen more like lets open a vein show.
Yes Steve played that great 'love song' 'Get Lucky' by Daft Punk,,with those romantic lyrics,'i'm up all night to get some.she's up all night for good fun'
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Old 08-05-2013, 13:31
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As far as I was concerned Radio 2 had the music and chat balance OK until the BBC Trust interfered and said there had to be more speech. Why? Just to keep the commercial sector happy.
There isn't more speech, though. Is Wright talking more than he used to? Probably not now they've got rid of his never-ending quiz. Evans plays about as many records as breakfast as Wogan did, Vine's show has always had the same mix of talk and Mayo does features and interviews like Evans and before him Walker and Dunn did. Bruce doesn't feature all that much talk either.
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Old 08-05-2013, 13:54
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There isn't more speech, though. Is Wright talking more than he used to? Probably not now they've got rid of his never-ending quiz. Evans plays about as many records as breakfast as Wogan did, Vine's show has always had the same mix of talk and Mayo does features and interviews like Evans and before him Walker and Dunn did. Bruce doesn't feature all that much talk either.
Well the BBC Trust said that Radio 2 should provide more speech in their reviews and in my opinion the speech level has gone up. Personally I would say Evans show does feature more chat than Wogan's did and certainly Simon Mayo's show has more chat.
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Old 08-05-2013, 14:33
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I get what Peter is saying, I think the difference is the big intro Mayo does, with sports, finance etc. Walker and Dunn would start the show with a simple jingle and a song, play the mystery voice clip, then another song. Certainly John Dunn's after 6 guest slot, would be a good 15 minute chat, so overall the speech content probably hasn't changed a great deal, but it feels like a long time between songs these days.
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Old 08-05-2013, 14:52
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Well the BBC Trust said that Radio 2 should provide more speech in their reviews and in my opinion the speech level has gone up. Personally I would say Evans show does feature more chat than Wogan's did and certainly Simon Mayo's show has more chat.
Peaktime speech has gone up, as explained here by the man who carried out the review:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga...t-radio-review
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:33
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As TB presented Junior Choice for a few years he would be far better to present Sunday Love Songs (ridiculous name for a programme) and have it as the Sunday request show. SW is such a painful listen more like lets open a vein show.
I agree that Tony Blackburn should take over the Sunday 9 to 11am slot. It would be even better if he was given a weekday slot and allowed to choose what music he plays just like on his Sunday afternoon show for the Magic network in the north.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:37
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I agree that Tony Blackburn should take over the Sunday 9 to 11am slot. It would be even better if he was given a weekday slot and allowed to choose what music he plays just like on his Sunday afternoon show for the Magic network in the north.
TB does NOT get to "choose" what he plays on Magic. He might say that, but the show is just as carefully play listed as any other on the station.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:30
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TB does NOT get to "choose" what he plays on Magic. He might say that, but the show is just as carefully play listed as any other on the station.
Oh.and you know that first hand do you??
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:47
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Well the BBC Trust said that Radio 2 should provide more speech in their reviews and in my opinion the speech level has gone up. Personally I would say Evans show does feature more chat than Wogan's did and certainly Simon Mayo's show has more chat.
I know how they could add more speech, employ an ex presenter of another national BBC breakfast show who was known for doing links up to 40 minutes in length.
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Old 09-05-2013, 13:35
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TB does NOT get to "choose" what he plays on Magic. He might say that, but the show is just as carefully play listed as any other on the station.
And he has said in my places, including one of his autobiographies, that he didn't believe daytime radio DJs should be able to choose any of the music, there should be a tightly focused playlist to give a consistent sound. Specialist shows are different.
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Old 09-05-2013, 15:40
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Yes Steve played that great 'love song' 'Get Lucky' by Daft Punk,,with those romantic lyrics,'i'm up all night to get some.she's up all night for good fun'
Well when Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" was in the charts Steve played it EVERY week. That surely has to be the most inappropriate song for that show ever!
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Old 09-05-2013, 18:12
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Tony Blackburn come on, announced it was Bank Holiday Monday and played... "Holiday" by Madonna. I switched off...

Cheesier than a very large piece of cheese on the moon (made of cheese).

Does he still have that inane dog barking gimmick? And is it safe to go back to Radio 2 yet..?
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:30
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Peaktime speech has gone up, as explained here by the man who carried out the review:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga...t-radio-review
Well these are people that we have to thank for the dilution of music on Radio 2 and replace this music and presenters with people who just talk rubbish - so much for entertainment , so much for being informative - they should have left well alone .

There is the argument that commercial radio were not happy with the depth of Radio 2's musical playlist during the day.

Well , here's an idea , why don't they raise their game by expanding their playlists-no matter what type of commercial radio station musical output.
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:37
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Tony Blackburn come on, announced it was Bank Holiday Monday and played... "Holiday" by Madonna. I switched off...

Cheesier than a very large piece of cheese on the moon (made of cheese).

Does he still have that inane dog barking gimmick? And is it safe to go back to Radio 2 yet..?


No and Yes as long as it isn't 1 - 3pm on Saturday, that's the only time he is on.
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Old 09-05-2013, 19:40
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I get what Peter is saying, I think the difference is the big intro Mayo does, with sports, finance etc. Walker and Dunn would start the show with a simple jingle and a song, play the mystery voice clip, then another song. Certainly John Dunn's after 6 guest slot, would be a good 15 minute chat, so overall the speech content probably hasn't changed a great deal, but it feels like a long time between songs these days.
Even if there is more speech, I don't believe the general audience are being switched off by it, and it would be a waste to hire a broadcaster like Simon Mayo, who is knowledgable about so many other subjects as well as music, and just confine him to talking about what great great tunes he's got coming up. And I enjoy Mayo's chat, he talks about interesting things.

And the point of a radio station is to provide information, I listen to Radio 2 as much for the news and the travel and the other talk. You don't want a radio station to be picked in aspic, you want it feel like now and when stuff happens, for them to tell you about it. If I wanted just music I'd put a record on.
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