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Old 15-05-2013, 01:09
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As the title says.

Plenty of channels but most are garbage. What's the solution to these failing tv channels?

Do TLC and the new UKTV Drama channels really add to the line up? Is the best Sky1 can offer cheap tv shows about Greggs the bakers?
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Old 15-05-2013, 01:19
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Sorry, but thats a pretty ridiculous thread topic.

No general solution is required.

You have no requirement or obligation to consume this "rubbish". Your personal solution to your perceived issue is if you dont like whats on, or cant find anything to watch, turn the damn thing off and go do something else instead.
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Old 15-05-2013, 01:32
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tv shows rubbish thats like saying the skys blue
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Old 15-05-2013, 07:17
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Trouble is something you regard as rubbish another person will think it's very entertaining or interesting.It's a common theme on DS that posters think the channels should be planned only for their personal tastes. When you think about it, that's impossible.
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Old 15-05-2013, 07:22
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all of the channels i have watch of late are rubbish an mainly repeating
bbc 1 is the main culprit all day repeating;
this is reason why i am going ditch my tv whats the point in it
when changing some channels all we get is repeated adverts an are getting longer than normal some were showing for 10mins till the show starts an even that was a repeat.
tv as we no it will get worst...
an i use to think that the channel FOX on virgin 185 was the best station now that showing repeats all day
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Old 15-05-2013, 07:26
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I long for the good old days pre 1972.

3 channels.

BBC1 and ITV not on air till 4'45pm BBC2 not on air till 7.30pm.

So many good programmes then.

Now we have hundreds of channels on 24 hours a day and not enough talent, or big enough programme budgets to make anything worth watching.

News Channel tends to be my default option, so at least I know what is going on in the world.
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Old 15-05-2013, 07:28
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the news n sky sports news are showing loops all day long - never changes
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Old 15-05-2013, 07:31
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It's very much the modern free-market ideology to do nothing about the quality of the free-market.

"the market will find it's level" say the crazy zealots.

Yes, the bottom...
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"Don't watch!" they say, as if sticking your head in the sand ever solved anything.
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Old 15-05-2013, 08:05
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Whilst all channels are filled with a lot of rubbish*, there is still collectively more than enough good stuff to satisfy the majority of viewers I would think.
That's why we have PVRs. To assemble your own channel of the best, so you can simply avoid all the rest.

*as in whatever the particular viewer perceives as rubbish.
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Old 15-05-2013, 08:32
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Do you ever stop winging? If you don't like it watch youtube or Netflix or Blinkbox, buy DVDs or listen to the radio...
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Old 15-05-2013, 08:43
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As the title says.

Plenty of channels but most are garbage. What's the solution to these failing tv channels?

Do TLC and the new UKTV Drama channels really add to the line up? Is the best Sky1 can offer cheap tv shows about Greggs the bakers?
This is why I got rid of it, stopped paying the TV licence and uses Netflix only. Ok, one of the reasons, the main one was BBC selling out to Sky with the Grandprix. that was the last straw to be honest.
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Old 15-05-2013, 08:52
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Unfortunately the advent of more channels under the guise of "more viewer choice" didn't actually bring more quality programming. It brought a lot of crap spread very very thinly over these channels. Mainly because although broadcasters were very keen to increase their presence in channel lineups the money wasn't there to actually make any new shows for all these extra channels.

Look at channels like More 4 - it is essentially Come Dine With Me and Grand Designs 24/7. When the idea of More 4 was first mooted it was supposed to be a "grown up" channel from the Channel 4 stable offering some new and intelligent programming.

VERY occasionally you get the odd gem turn up on More 4 but most of the time its dross repeated over and over again.

Maybe the days of just 4 channels were actually better.
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:00
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Whilst all channels are filled with a lot of rubbish*, there is still collectively more than enough good stuff to satisfy the majority of viewers I would think.
That's why we have PVRs. To assemble your own channel of the best, so you can simply avoid all the rest.

*as in whatever the particular viewer perceives as rubbish.
The economics of TV production are affected when audiences are spread out over many many channels.

The money available per programme becomes gradually less. The risk that can be afforded also becomes less. Programmes become "safer" and more derivative. Reboots galour.


So while a "best of the channels" personal channel can be assembled, every year it will be of a lesser and lesser quality.

Which I think is what we see.
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Old 15-05-2013, 09:11
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It is a big world and whilst one person may see the next programme as rubish it may well be the best thing ever for another. I do think there are a numer of channels with shows that I will mostly give a miss but that will only be my choice and I have to respect that there may well be loads of others who can't wait for that very show to start.
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Old 15-05-2013, 10:36
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You'll find plenty of good programming if you have the patience to look for it, far more on TV than Netflix unless you prefer tat and tut American junk.

Has the OP tried reading a book when bored ?
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Old 15-05-2013, 10:45
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Get yourself a PVR and only record what you want to watch.
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Old 15-05-2013, 10:46
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The economics of TV production are affected when audiences are spread out over many many channels.

The money available per programme becomes gradually less. The risk that can be afforded also becomes less. Programmes become "safer" and more derivative. Reboots galour.


So while a "best of the channels" personal channel can be assembled, every year it will be of a lesser and lesser quality.

Which I think is what we see.
Added to which there's only so many good ideas, good writers, good actors, and finite budgets for TV programming at any one time. Back in the day when there were only three or four channels, the percentage of quality programming would have seemed much higher.

I think there may also be a tendency to fondly remember things in the past as being brilliant, when in reality that was all there was. Nowadays when things are being evaluated by loads of reviews, forums, etc, there's a higher critical standard. The Godfather still holds up as a great film more than 40 years after it was made, but there are not many TV programmes from that era which people still watch today. Relentless repeats of Dad's Army on BBC 2 being a notable exception.
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Old 15-05-2013, 15:29
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i agree

there are far too many channels that have shown the same program over and over again, especially NEW channels that have them because they simply do not have the new programming to fill their schedules! (TLC)

there now needs to be a real concentration of such 2nd level programming!

there are PLENTY of youtube and other internet video channels that can use this space, and would be a welcome change to the usual repeats
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Old 15-05-2013, 16:27
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As the title says.

Plenty of channels but most are garbage. What's the solution to these failing tv channels?

Do TLC and the new UKTV Drama channels really add to the line up? Is the best Sky1 can offer cheap tv shows about Greggs the bakers?
You and your trash talking on today's state of British telly again Amazed you have never been banned.
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Old 15-05-2013, 17:46
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The poster's spot on right.

I worked out we watched maybe 10 channels out of the Dish America's Top 250 package for which we're charged 50 quid (no premium channels in that for those who criticise Sky of
being a rip off)

I dumped 90% of the large amount of shows I watched as I realised I was watching out of habit.

Outside of the Premier League, Fox News, HGTV and USA Network we could easily get a free to air aerial and have done. As NBC are going to be showing free Premier League every Saturday I think I'll cut the cable once the 2 year contract ends. There are other ways to get the few shows I have left.
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Old 15-05-2013, 17:57
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I long for the good old days pre 1972.

3 channels.

BBC1 and ITV not on air till 4'45pm BBC2 not on air till 7.30pm.

So many good programmes then.

Now we have hundreds of channels on 24 hours a day and not enough talent, or big enough programme budgets to make anything worth watching.

News Channel tends to be my default option, so at least I know what is going on in the world.
That post says it all - in 1972, TV chaged from an entertaining medium for the viewers - to a money making medium for its executives - & the Bisto train is still getting longer every day
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Old 15-05-2013, 23:58
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That post says it all - in 1972, TV chaged from an entertaining medium for the viewers - to a money making medium for its executives - & the Bisto train is still getting longer every day
It is amazing how self-serving the people in charge of all the main broadcasters are.

And it is costing them, it's that attitude that is causing the gradual rise of various other entertainments.
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Old 16-05-2013, 00:04
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"I don't like what's on TV, so everyone involved is evil and deserves to die a horrible violent death"

Seriously?! TV doesn't exist to serve only you, and if you don't like what's it's showing don't watch. It isn't the downfall of society, and if you know where to look I'm sure you'll find plenty of great TV...
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Old 16-05-2013, 00:06
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In other news..is TLC available on Freeview? or is it just Sky? One has a obession with Honey Boo Boo child.
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Old 16-05-2013, 01:53
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I think on balance I'd rather have the choice in channels we do now, to the 3 or 4 channels there once were where sometimes (and I do remember it) there was genuinely a "nothing on" feeling.
Now there is always "something" but it still is sometimes even across all those channels not very good, overall there ARE more programmes being made to spread across the channels but in comparison to the 70's, 80's, 90's true gems are definitely rarer to find, but they still occasionally exist.
BBC ONE should always be the first port of call if you're looking for quality TV, but so often it isn't.
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