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Old 11-06-2013, 20:29
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OMG Betty what an idiot
yup I agree with you Ella, wonder if the children got the same ultimatum...film crew with daddy or more time with the nanny. As we all have been told, the kids love the cameras so no problem for DOTY.
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Old 11-06-2013, 20:47
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If he is aware of the criticism his kids are getting then it's time he did something about it.. TAKE THEM OFF TV PETER ... Let them have a childhood away from tv and photoshoots before its to late
I can't help but think it is too late. Maybe I am being cynical but I think its too ingrained in them that stopping would have a negative effect (though i think a far less negative effect then keeping them in the spotlight), they remind me a lot of child stars who get completely screwed up because they haven't had a normal upbringing, and go off the deep end when the cameras stop rolling and no one is interested any more.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:09
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....or maybe the children are reacting to yet another man coming into their lives who Mummy has just married and now there is a new baby arriving. Kids are quite often jealous of the attention a new baby gets in the happiest of families and need reassurance that they are still loved just as much etc etc. I hope that Katie has the gumption to address all of this.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:19
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I can't help but think it is too late. Maybe I am being cynical but I think its too ingrained in them that stopping would have a negative effect (though i think a far less negative effect then keeping them in the spotlight), they remind me a lot of child stars who get completely screwed up because they haven't had a normal upbringing, and go off the deep end when the cameras stop rolling and no one is interested any more.
If whoever is watching this never-ending, self-serving people just switched off or watched something more interesting, then these people would just disappear off our screens. My life and my family are more interesting than this load of tripe and all I have seen of Andre and 'what's her name' is what is about to come up next on our screens. Needless to say I either change channels or switch off.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:55
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I can't help but think it is too late. Maybe I am being cynical but I think its too ingrained in them that stopping would have a negative effect (though i think a far less negative effect then keeping them in the spotlight), they remind me a lot of child stars who get completely screwed up because they haven't had a normal upbringing, and go off the deep end when the cameras stop rolling and no one is interested any more.
Maybe that's why it's a good idea to stop now..whilst hey are young enough to get used to no cameras following them..
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:06
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....or maybe the children are reacting to yet another man coming into their lives who Mummy has just married and now there is a new baby arriving. Kids are quite often jealous of the attention a new baby gets in the happiest of families and need reassurance that they are still loved just as much etc etc. I hope that Katie has the gumption to address all of this.
Oh I'm sure all those things affect them but that's not the point here. It's that they're on tv where their behaviour is visible and up for discussion and, for some people, criticism. Were they not on tv, then it wouldn't be an issue at all.

Personally, I don't see 'bratty' but I do see kids - Junior in particular - being encouraged to play up for the cameras by his father and coming across in a way that is going to generate criticism. That's PA's responsibility, PA's fault, no one else's.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:35
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Kids are kids and are always pushing the boundaries. One persons brat is another's confident kid. I agree the kids should not be on TV and it does open them to BB type scrutiny. But they are children not adults with a child's mindset,knowledge and understanding.Kids need guidance and good role models.

I would add they have two parents not one and several dickish uncles have passed through their lives on an endless conveyor belt.This has affected them also surely.Their self obsessed mum has never put them first either.The atmosphere between the parents has not helped has it and they are now embroiled in a silly court case.

Appearing on TV is the least of these kids worries.The main problem is the immaturity, spite and irresponsibility of both parents. Imo the kids are well behaved considering.Well done to the nanny I guess.
^^^ You put this across much better than me I now realise the subject was about having them on TV, although reading some of the posts, I thought it was actually about the Children's behaviour, hence my earlier post.
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:10
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I actually cant believe he still allows (relies..?) on the kids being filmed to be honest. My son is now 10 and I am having to keep such a tight rein on internet accessibility & awareness, it's a complete minefield in this current climate.

Although, having said that - I am a freelance photographer and use my son's & other children's images in my online portfolio - Oh jeez, am I as bad as DOTY..?
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:23
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I actually cant believe he still allows (relies..?) on the kids being filmed to be honest. My son is now 10 and I am having to keep such a tight rein on internet accessibility & awareness, it's a complete minefield in this current climate.

Although, having said that - I am a freelance photographer and use my son's & other children's images in my online portfolio - Oh jeez, am I as bad as DOTY..?
I don't think you are as bad as DOTY ..no one knows your child's name or which is your child on your online portfolio .
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:08
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Pssst Momma ... just for you some helmet hair as requested https://twitter.com/drjonrees/status...774144/photo/1 Sounds like ride going really well apart from one lady breaking her ankle but fortunately lots of doctors on hand to take care of her. 200 km still to go.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:16
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....or maybe the children are reacting to yet another man coming into their lives who Mummy has just married and now there is a new baby arriving. Kids are quite often jealous of the attention a new baby gets in the happiest of families and need reassurance that they are still loved just as much etc etc. I hope that Katie has the gumption to address all of this.
I don't suppose having various men coming & going from their lives is beneficial, it must be very confusing. The new baby hasn't been born yet so I don't see that as a problem, maybe that will change when he/she comes along.
Since we don't get to see how KP raises her children, it's kind of difficult to comment.
What I have seen & therefore feel able to comment on is, the deplorable way PA allows his children to be constantly filmed, imo they are (more so Junior) starting to believe they are "more special" than their peers & PA is far too deluded to see what is staring him in the face. Usually my cringing is saved for PA & I can laugh at him but more & more I'm finding myself cringing at Junior's behaviour but this time without the laughs. He is slowly but surely becoming a little, annoying show off which is a shame because he could be such a lovely wee boy if his Dad would have the balls to admit he's done them no favours allowing them to be filmed & remove them from the limelight.

Pssst Momma ... just for you some helmet hair as requested https://twitter.com/drjonrees/status...774144/photo/1 Sounds like ride going really well apart from one lady breaking her ankle but fortunately lots of doctors on hand to take care of her. 200 km still to go.
His hair is actually not that bad He looks sillier wearing woolly hats indoors trying to hide it.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:39
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Agree with you about the hair BEL, don't know why he has such a hang up with it being naturally curly as it looks better like that than some of Mike's weird styling. I agree Junior acts up for the camera but I'm not sure he does elsewhere. His karate tutor has said he's a model student - very disciplined and great ability to concentrate. All the reports I've seen seem to say that they've both polite, lovely, lively children. I do share your hope that they're withdrawn from filming soon though as I think they are going to get increasingly self-conscious about it.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:54
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The fact he has basically told his GF that she either appears in his show or they won't see each other makes me laugh.. If she has told him she isn't happy appearing on his show he should eprespect that and make sure they film whilst she is at uni .. Surely that's not to hard
One supposes that's the same (unwritten) deal he has with his children when you think about it?

If you're making 20 episodes of reality TV a year and every episode features you children, you're handing over a lot of their private time to voyeurism. If they have joint custody, I am supposing you have 26 weekends a year with them...and 20 episodes to make. Given their father acts up, shows off and acts like a brat in front of camera, it's little wonder the kids have turned out the same. That's not my concern though, my concern is the amount of time they spend in their fathers care with the TV cameras watching every move. That can't be quality time, even if they are at a zoo..it's still work.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:58
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Agree with you about the hair BEL, don't know why he has such a hang up with it being naturally curly as it looks better like that than some of Mike's weird styling. I agree Junior acts up for the camera but I'm not sure he does elsewhere. His karate tutor has said he's a model student - very disciplined and great ability to concentrate. All the reports I've seen seem to say that they've both polite, lovely, lively children. I do share your hope that they're withdrawn from filming soon though as I think they are going to get increasingly self-conscious about it.
I am glad to read this about Junior & hopefully his showing off is only in front of the film crew, I don't take any pleasure in knocking a child, my frustration is directed purely at PA.

On a lighter note...........yeah ditch the hats Pete, he's stretching it as it is with the silly styling, he can't possibly have Mike following him about with hair straighteners for much longer!
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:05
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^ Completely agree; however, once you remove the kids from the show, what have you got? Even more filler guff about 'how proud' everyone is of Pete for remembering to get up every morning
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:12
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^ Completely agree; however, once you remove the kids from the show, what have you got? Even more filler guff about 'how proud' everyone is of Pete for remembering to get up every morning
I think PA & obviously CP are well aware of this fact, hence their reluctance to remove them from the show.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:28
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I think PA & obviously CP are well aware of this fact, hence their reluctance to remove them from the show.
Exactly. Without the kids, how can you build the DOTY brand?
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:36
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The fact he has basically told his GF that she either appears in his show or they won't see each other makes me laugh.. If she has told him she isn't happy appearing on his show he should eprespect that and make sure they film whilst she is at uni .. Surely that's not to hard
I wouldnt be surprised if Emily is getting flack at Uni for dating and appearing with him.

This latest interview could also be because it has been suggested by some (me) that Emily was enjoying the celeb/filming lifestyle and was with him for that. My view may have since altered, but maybe they are now putting a PR spin on it to indicate she loves him and not just the celeb.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:48
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I wouldnt be surprised if Emily is getting flack at Uni for dating and appearing with him.

This latest interview could also be because it has been suggested by some (me) that Emily was enjoying the celeb/filming lifestyle and was with him for that. My view may have since altered, but maybe they are now putting a PR spin on it to indicate she loves him and not just the celeb.
I read it like that too. Didn't some TV critic call her a hair-flicking, camera loving girlfriend or something like that? It was what FMs who watch the show picked up on ages ago. There has been criticism.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:52
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Pssst Momma ... just for you some helmet hair as requested https://twitter.com/drjonrees/status...774144/photo/1 Sounds like ride going really well apart from one lady breaking her ankle but fortunately lots of doctors on hand to take care of her. 200 km still to go.
Thanks SS
I don't know why he fusses so much over his hair , I much prefer it the way it looks in that pic.
He suits his curls
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:12
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Same here Momma - wonder if it's a reaction against having his hair long and curly when he was a teenager which did look uncool? But having it short and wavy looks much better than gelled up. Hopefully Emily will be a good influence
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:47
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I don't know why he fusses so much over his hair , I much prefer it the way it looks in that pic.
He suits his curls
Maybe he is follically challenged .. And is making sure we don't notice
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:54
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I would think it is far more likely that Junior would pick up brattish behaviour from his mother rather than his father. Katie doesnt regulate her behaviour for anyone least likely her children who hear her berate everyone in earshot.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:09
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I would think it is far more likely that Junior would pick up brattish behaviour from his mother rather than his father. Katie doesnt regulate her behaviour for anyone least likely her children who hear her berate everyone in earshot.
Even IF that was true, which I don't think it is, don't you think it's slightly more relevant that we are discussing the children's behaviour, and PA is attempting to defend it in a magazine, precisely because the children are constantly being paraded in front of us on DOTY's tv programme?
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:11
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I would think it is far more likely that Junior would pick up brattish behaviour from his mother rather than his father. Katie doesnt regulate her behaviour for anyone least likely her children who hear her berate everyone in earshot.
As we have no evidence of how the children behave when with their mother ..there is no evidence to back your claim.. But we do have regular evidence of how their father allows them to behave when with him
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