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Old 04-06-2013, 10:09
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A summary of yesterday in court, Paul Gongaware still on the stand.

AEG were out to show Michael Jackson was fit and healthy to do the shows and wasn't overworked. There would be no travelling required between shows. A calendar of the 50 shows was shown.

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2009
Jul   8 shows
Aug  10 shows
Sep   9 shows

Break till 2010
Jan  10 shows
Feb  10 Shows
Mar  3 shows

No back to back shows planned.
Paul Gongaware disputed Karen Faye's testimony that he yelled at an assistant to get Michael to a rehearsal....

"Never, never happened," Gongaware said, shaking his head.
The jury were shown clips of the 'This Is It' film showing Michael performing, Gongaware denied the film presented a skewed vision of Michael Jackson. Gongaware said he saw Michael perform 9 songs at a rehearsal..

"He was amazing, captivating, riveting. And he’s just getting started.”
His strategy to deal with health scare stories in the UK press was to say nothing and let Michael Jackson's performance silence the critics.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:18
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A summary by ABC7
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:56
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I have to say, looking at that schedule, it doesn't look too bad. Especially when you take into account that West End performers routinely do 8 shows per week with two performances on matinee days - and their contracts are often for 12 months. By contrast, MJ's 50 shows would have been split into two halves with several months break inbetween and no back-to-back shows or travel to different venues. Still a lot of shows, but a schedule that should have been within his capabilites.
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:37
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I have to say, looking at that schedule, it doesn't look too bad. Especially when you take into account that West End performers routinely do 8 shows per week with two performances on matinee days - and their contracts are often for 12 months. By contrast, MJ's 50 shows would have been split into two halves with several months break inbetween and no back-to-back shows or travel to different venues. Still a lot of shows, but a schedule that should have been within his capabilites.
If you are a professional entertainer then I wouldn't have thought that schedule was too tough.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:13
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It shows when people say 50 shows it sounds daunting but when you see it laid out spread over 9 months with a 2 month gap and it doesn't look a problem.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:54
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Going back to Gongaware's evidence on Monday he gave more details on the circumstances surrounding the involvement of Conrad Murray.

Gongaware made it clear the idea for Murray was Michael's...

He came to me and said he wanted his personal doctor on the tour..
Gongaware suggested hiring a doctor local to London would be better, Michael responded...

This is the machine, we have to take care of the machine. I want Conrad.
Gongaware was not surprised Michael wanted a doctor on tour to keep fit for the shows, not because he had health issues.

Murray was contacted by Gongaware to negotiate a deal on behalf of Michael Jackson. Murray said he wanted $5m as he had 4 clinics to close and would be laying off staff.

Because he did not have Michael Jackson's number Gongaware communicated with Michael Amir Williams, Michael's personal assistant.

Gongaware felt the amount Murray wanted was ridicules and Jackson could not afford it, Gongaware informed Randy Phillips & Frank DiLeo.

Asked if he would be negotiating with Murray if Michael had not asked him to, Gongaware said 'no'. As Michael had known Murray for 3 years Gongaware felt there was any need to check Murray's background, or decide who Michael's personal doctor should be.

Gongaware contacted his friend Dr. Finkelstein, who'd worked on the Dangerous Tour to check prices, he said he'd do it for $10,000 a month but he also said he'd do it for free.

Michael Amir Williams called Gongaware and said they needed to get a deal with Murray. Gongaware heard Jackson in the background saying '150' which he understood to mean $150,000 a month.

Gongaware made the offer to Murray who initially turned it down, told the offer came directly from Jackson Murray said, 'I'll take it'. Asked how he would get a licence in London, Murray told Gongaware not to worry about it.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:02
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Michael Jackson basically didn't have a pot to pee in, he'd had to have his mortage on Neverland bailed out. He didn't have the cash or was able to borrow money to pay for the 'This Is It' tour.

The only way he is going to have any money it seems is if he did the 'This Is It' shows.

Gongaware is mindful of Jackson's finances, cuts a deal that saves Jackson millions and family want to present it as sinister.

If AEG were out to scalp Jackson they would have made his music catalogues part of the contract and pushed out the boat on production way beyond Jackson's means.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:06
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Yesterday Paul Gongaware completed his evidence, next in the spotlight was AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips who declared the lawsuit as extortion.

Here's a summary from Associated Press.

Panish (family's lawyer) asked Phillips whether he was eager to tell his side of the story.

"I believe you called me as a witness, so I'm here," Phillips said flatly.

Panish at one point asked the executive whether he was familiar with the music industry.

"Familiar with the music industry? I was working in it," Phillips replied.
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Old 05-06-2013, 17:20
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Michael Jackson basically didn't have a pot to pee in, he'd had to have his mortage on Neverland bailed out. He didn't have the cash or was able to borrow money to pay for the 'This Is It' tour.

The only way he is going to have any money it seems is if he did the 'This Is It' shows.

Gongaware is mindful of Jackson's finances, cuts a deal that saves Jackson millions and family want to present it as sinister.

If AEG were out to scalp Jackson they would have made his music catalogues part of the contract and pushed out the boat on production way beyond Jackson's means.
If the Jackson family lose this case are they liable for the court costs?
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Old 05-06-2013, 20:36
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If the Jackson family lose this case are they liable for the court costs?
I don't know how it works.

Yesterday it was mentioned the Jackson's have 4 teams of lawyers while AEG have 14 lawyers.

Don't know if it will change today but both Paul Gongaware and Randy Phillips said yesterday it was a case of extortion.

Brian Pannish for the family kept pressing Gongaware, asking if he had concerns about Katherine Jackson and her son's children. Be interesting to see what Pannish does today after overnight events.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:40
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Randy Phillips was back yesterday called as a hostile witness by Brian Panish, lawyer for the family.

Phillips pointed out errors in the police report Panish was attempting to use as evidence of what Phillips told the police.

The police report had: Randy stated that Kenny got into Michael's face, at which time Dr. Murray admonished Randy, stating, “You're not a doctor. Butt out.”

Phillips pointed out it that made no sense, the report mentioned Murray got in his face, when it more likely Kenny Ortega was the person Murray admonished.

The report stated Phillips & Gongaware had worked for over 16 years with Michael Jackson, when only Gongaware had done so.

Despite a request by AEG the police interviews were not taped.

About month ago Randy Phillips had a lunch meeting with Jackson's former manager Tohme Tohme, also present was AEG attorney Marvin Putnam. Phillips had testified in a Labor Commission hearing over Tohme's claim against Michael Jackson's estate.

Phillips denied he testified at the hearing to help bail out Tohme, he was an impartial witness.

Phillips said they did not directly discuss Tohme's possible testimony in the Jackson vs AEG Live case. Panish told the court he had a witness who could testify about what was discussed at the table.

Asked about the $100k a month contract with Tohme, Randy Phillips said it was a standard practice for Michael Jackson during his career. The only other artist with a similar deal with AEG Live is Bon Jovi.

Sharon Osbourne and Randy Phillips used to live in the same building and in passing spoke to Ms Osbourne. Phillips denied telling Osbourne that AEG Live kept all the money from the ticket sales of 'This Is It', "That would be the most idiotic thing in the world to say."

The court was told 7 to 8% of ticket purchases weren't refunded because buyers opted to hold on to the tickets, the un-refunded ticket revenues totalled more than $5m.
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Old 08-06-2013, 21:21
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Day 25 Thu 6 Jun 2013 From ABC 7 Court News

Randy Phillips of AEG Live faced more questions from Brian Panish lawyer for the Jacksons. They don't seem to get on well with each other, for example....

Panish made a mistake in one exhibit and Phillips reacted immediately with, "See, we all make mistakes," Panish quickly responded "I haven't made 50 of them" to which Phillips said "I don't know, I haven't watched the entire trial."

Neither Katherine Jackson or any other family were in the court room today.

Gongaware had emailed on the phone numbers for Conrad Murray to Phillips. Asked if he normally carried around all the contact numbers of an artist's personal physicians, Phillips replied, "Absolutely not! Most of the artists we don't deal with their personal physician."

Panish raised the "Trouble at the Front" email sent by Bugzee the day Jackson was unable to rehearse, Phillips said he thought he read it before he went to bed on 19 Jun 2009. In his deposition Phillips said he had read the email the next morning, Phillips explained, "Since the deposition, my memory had gotten better because I was given documents and tried to remember what happened."

Panish played part of Phillips deposition where he said he didn't know how he reacted to Bugzee's email. The court were told 19 minutes after receiving the email Phillips forwarded it to his then boss Tim Leiweke, and added, We have a real problem here.".

Four minutes later, Leiweke replied four minutes later asking for a meeting between himself, Lackson, Phillips and Kenny Ortega.Phillips asked Ortega to set up the meeting, which took place on the afternoon of 20 Jun 2009.

Bugzee sent another email to Phillips saying Jackson was shaking and couldn't eat, that Ortega had to cut his food and feed him. Phillips answered the email saying Phillips answered the email saying he was not sure if Jackson's problem was chemical or physiological. Panish told the court of 5 different answers Phillips gave as explanation for this email, from not knowing what chemical means to possible drug reaction.

Ortega sent an email to Phillips, saying he believed Jackson needed to be psychologically evaluated. Phillips testified he agreed with Ortega but in his deposition he said he didn't recall.

Phillips testified he didn't contact any psychologist or psychiatrist, "I'm not responsible for Michael's health, he's an adult, he had a personal doctor."

Phillips told the court he never said he was going to pull the plug on the show and never threatened MJ with pulling the plug. Phillips denied telling Ortega it was not his job to question Jackson's health/doctor care.

Branca responded to the email from Phillips saying he had the right therapist/spiritual advisor but did not give a name and Phillips never asked.

Jackson's Business Manager Michael Kane had asked Phillips for a million dollars to pay for Mr. Jackson's bills. Phillips replied via enail, "This Is It's impossible 2 advance any $. He may unfortunately be in anticipitory breach at this point." Kane responded on the 20 Jun to Phillips emails, "And I thought it couldn't get worse."

Phillips said he felt Jackson would be in breach of his contract by not showing up to rehearsal. Phillips explained no contracts have the artist need to rehearse, but the artists want to perfect their show. Phillips said Jackson could be in breach of contract if lack of appearance caused production to not complete and show not open in London.

According to Phillips AEG Live would have survived if the show had not happened but was concerned that AEG Live would look bad.
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Old 08-06-2013, 21:25
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Sorry i4u.

I'm not thick and I'm not stupid but I just couldn't cope with your post above.
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Old 08-06-2013, 21:31
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Sorry i4u.

I'm not thick and I'm not stupid but I just couldn't cope with your post above.
It's always good to have feedback.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:58
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Randy Phillips, CEO of AEG Live continued to be questioned by the family lawyer Brian Panish. At one stage the Judge stepped in and separated them with a warning to Phillips.


Phillips denied threatening to pull the plug on "This Is It," he also denied such statements as; Jackson would be on Skid Row, and that AEG was paying for the toilet paper in MJ's home.

In an email to Michael Jackson's business manager Michael Kane Phillips expressed concerns about Dr. Arnie Klein, "He scares us to death because he is shooting him up with something."

Here are various reports from yesterdays proceedings...

Jackson treatments raised alarm for AEG Live exec

Judge admonishes AEG Live CEO about testimony

Here's a LAPD picture of Phillips business card found with Conrad Murray.

Here's a link to the images and documents presented to the jury by the family's lawyers.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:23
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ABC7 Court News details of yesterday....

An email from Randy Phillips to Kenny Ortega on Jun 20 2009 was to contain the following,

Kenny, it's critical that neither you, me or anyone else around this show become amateur psychiatrist or physicians. I had a lengthy conversation with Dr. Murray, who I'm gaining immense respect for as I get to deal with him more.

He said that Michael is not only physically equipped to perform and, that discouraging him to, will hasten his decline instead of stopping it. Dr. Murray also reiterated that he's mentally able to and was speaking to me from the house where he has spent the morning with MJ. This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he totally unbiased and ethical.

It is critical we surround Michael with love and support and listen to how he wants to get ready for July 13th. You cannot imagine the harm and ramifications of stopping this show now. It would far outweigh "calling this game in the 7th inning"

I'm not just talking about AEG's interests here, but the myriad of stuff/lawsuits swirling around MJ that I crisis manage every day and also his well-being. I am meeting with him today at 4p at the Forum.

Please stay steady. Enough alarms have sounded. It is time to put out the fire, not burning the building down. Sorry for all the analogies.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:09
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Brian Panish continued yet again to continuing his questioning of Randy Phillips, CEO of AEG Live. After the judge's intervention yesterday today went more smoothly and there was even some humour...

Most of Panish questions were what he had asked before, finally he sat down and Marvin Putnam the attorney for AEG tookover.

The other day Panish had got Phillips to admit Brenda, ex-wife of Lionel Richie had told him Jackson died of a combination of other drugs and Propofol administered by himself, but Phillips didn't tell the Police or Murray's attorney's

Yesterday Putnam for AEG asked further questions on the matter Phillips said Brenda had called him after Michael had died to tell him that she was in communication with Michael either through a medium or directly.

Panish the family lawyer objected on the grounds of triple hearsay! The Courtroom burst into laughter.

Asked why he did not inform the LAPD Phillips said he didn't want to be in that straight jacket previously referred to.

After lunch, Putnam for AEG resumed questioning Randy Phillips and asked if he met with his attorney over lunch hour. All the jurors laughed loud. This is how Panish begins after lunch.

Putnam: Did they show you any documents?
Phillips: Just the menu.
For details of yesterday from Associated Press or ABC7 Court News
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Old 13-06-2013, 07:54
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A summary of what Randy Phillips testified yesterday from Associated Press.

In testimony later on Wednesday, he described having to coax Jackson to a London press conference in March 2009 to announce his concerts. The singer was a couple of hours late, appeared hung over and was concerned no one would want to see him perform.

"He is an emotionally paralyzed mess riddled with self-loathing and doubt now that it is show time," Phillips wrote his boss that day. He testified that he just wanted to get through the event and forget it ever happened.
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Old 13-06-2013, 08:01
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ABC7 Court News summary.


The president of AEG Live, Randy Phillips, got his first chance to explain what was behind the alarming emails he sent, which have been ammunition for the plaintiffs. Phillips had written that Jackson was "locked in his room drunk and despondent" and that the singer was an "emotionally paralyzed mess, riddled with self loathing and doubt now that it is show time."

He testified Jackson's anxiety was not about performing. He said Jackson was concerned that his popularity had faded and there weren't going to be any people at the press conference. Phillips said Jackson later was ecstatic when he learned 3,000 people were waiting for him.
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Old 13-06-2013, 09:40
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More details from ABC7 Court News.

Randy Phillips continued to be questioned by AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam.

Phillips first meeting with Dr Tohme was a 2hr meeting in the bar of the Bel Air Hotel in the summer of 2008. Tohme described Jackson's circumstances, his life, career, where he lived and finances.

They talked about restarting Jackson's career, the idea came off a proposal from Raymone Bain* that London would be the best starting point.

Tohme told Phillips the biggest motivation for Jackson was that he wanted to earn enough money to buy a house for his family. Phillips was under the impression from Tohme that Jackson was ready to go back on tour.

Phillips had a meeting with Jackson where they discussed dates, how tickets would be sold and with whom Jackson would like to work. They planned to make the London shows a larger than life event.

In October 2008 Phillips felt Jackson was ready to go, "He was dressed well, his eyes were clear, he is very sophisticated 50 year old man. I don't believe anything I read in the press, especially the English press. I take a lot of those stories with a grain of salt. He is a very smart, articulate young man who had control of his life."

Phillips testified he was not concerned about Jackson's health, physical condition or drug problem. Jackson had said he was tired living like vagabonds wanted his children to have a permanent place to live and a sense of community. According to Phillips Jackson 'teared up', "...he said he wanted a residence for his family that they could call their own That was the primary reason he wanted to go back work."

Jackson wanted to tour one more time while he was young enough to do it and his children were old enough to appreciate it. Phillips said Jackson was emotional but he had no concerns about his mental well being.

Phillips said he tried to talk Jackson out of purchasing a $93m house in Beverly Hills. Dr. Tohme secure the Carolwood home not AEG.

AEG advanced Jackson $3m to settle a lawsuit, Phillips said, He could not enter contract with us until he settled with Bahrain."

Jackson came up with 31 for the number of shows, to beat Prince. Jackson also wanted to make sure of AEG's commitment about the movie in the contract.

Phillips said Tohme was the only way to contact Jackson and was concerned when Tohme and Jackson had a dispute over the auction of memorabilia.

If Jackson had decided in late February 2009 not to go ahead it would not have hurt AEG Live, they had only advanced $5m.

On the day of the London Press Conference Phillips, Tohme & Jackson were at the same hotel...Tohme went to get Michael and after a long time returned saying, not to worry Michael just needed a little more time. Phillips started to freak out, pacing back and forth. Tohme told Phillips that they had a little issue, Michael had got drunk and was going to be late.

Phillips said Jackson was locked in his room drunk & despondent, both he & Tohme were trying to sober Jackson up for the press conference. Phillips informed Tim Leiweke who responded "Are you kidding me?" Phillips told Jackson's bodyguard Alberto Alvarez it was crisis situation and needed to get into the room.

When Phillips entered the room Jackson had a robe on and his pants. an empty bottle of vodka or gin was on the couch. Phillips felt Jackson looked hungover, Jackson said he was concerned no one would be at the press conference. Phillips assured Jackson there were 3,000 fans there and all the top news organizations waiting.

Jackson, Tohme and makeup artist went to the bathroom. The children were in another room watching television.

It was still being decided what Jackson should wear, Phillips suggested black against the red background. Jackson wanted to wear a sequined arm band but had no way to attach it, at that point Phillips shouted, 'Guys, that's enough!"

They got in the vehicle to go to the press conference, Jackson was said to be 'chagrined', the mood changed and Jackson was quite funny. Jackson was supposed to have overnight written his remarks, instead Phillips had to write some lines in the van.

At the venue Jackson was a little hunched over but when he went through the curtain there was Michael Jackson, Phillips thought the press conference went fine. Jackson was said to have been elated.

They only announced 10 shows and the pre-registration gave AEG an indication how sales would go, Paul Gongaware alerted Phillips the shows would sell ridiculous amounts of tickets and needed to add more shows.

Phillips contacted Tohme and Jackson agreed to 50 shows on condition there was a house in the countryside with at least 16 acres, rolling streams, horseback riders and wanted a guest house for the writers to work on Thriller 3D.

After the 50th show Jackson wanted the world record to document record.


*Raymone Bain was Jackson's publicist throughout the 2005 molestation trial. She filed a suit against Jackson in May 2009 for $44m, it doing go anywhere.

Randy Phillips has testified AEG kept a tight reign on Jackson's expenses because he had a habit of forgetting to pay what he'd agreed.
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Old 13-06-2013, 10:47
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So we have Lionel Richie's ex-wife talking to MJ via a medium and MJ before the This Is It press conference drunk on Vodka (or Gin)! Just when you think it can't get any weirder.....!

Oddly enough, the most shocking thing to me, reading the latest testimony, is that MJ was drunk while his kids were in the room next door watching TV!
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Old 13-06-2013, 10:56
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So we have Lionel Richie's ex-wife talking to MJ via a medium and MJ before the This Is It press conference drunk on Vodka (or Gin)! Just when you think it can't get any weirder.....!

Oddly enough, the most shocking thing to me, reading the latest testimony, is that MJ was drunk while his kids were in the room next door watching TV!
I didn't think of the children being there till Phillips mentioned them....if they are called as witnesses will the older two will recall the events that day.

Katherine Jackson had a couple of days not attending court after the incident with Paris, since then she appears to have attended court on her own.

As for Richie's ex, the fact the family presented her as a credible source knowing the true facts says a lot about how the Jackson's operate.

Unless the Jury have taken a dislike to AEG & their execs I can't see how the family have proved Murray was employed by AEG rather than Jackson.
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Old 13-06-2013, 14:21
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Oddly enough, the most shocking thing to me, reading the latest testimony, is that MJ was drunk while his kids were in the room next door watching TV!
Same here. Also the fact that MJ thought that buying a house for his family meant spending 93m - totally out of touch with reality!!!!
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Old 13-06-2013, 14:25
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Unless the Jury have taken a dislike to AEG & their execs I can't see how the family have proved Murray was employed by AEG rather than Jackson.
I can't either. I'm not sure where this delusion comes from. Clearly Murray was employed by MJ and on his terms to do his bidding.

Is the family's lawsuit motivated by grief, greed or a misplaced quest for justice?
They clearly can't accept that MJ was in anyway to blame for his death.
I'll be very surprised if they win this case.
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Old 14-06-2013, 09:12
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Randy Phillips, AEG Live CEO continues to be questioned by Marvin Putnam, AEG attorney. A summary from Associated Press.

Phillips said AEG Live doesn't have a policy for dealing with artists who are the subject of articles that state or suggest they have a substance abuse problem.

The head of the company promoting Michael Jackson's ill-fated comeback concerts testified Thursday that he received conflicting and confusing information about the singer's health days before his death.

AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips said he was concerned about information from high-level tour workers that Jackson was unable to rehearse six days before his death, but he was reassured by the pop superstar's doctor that everything was fine.
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