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Old 21-06-2013, 14:02
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Quick question about this show - in the episode 'The Leaving of Liverpool', Gary and Phoebe visit her grandmother in Liverpool. Gary then goes back to the 90s and finds he's changed things in the past (and thus altered the future), so goes back to 40s Liverpool (all during the night of their visit) to ensure that Ron's granfather becomes a hero, thereby restoring the 90s to how he had known it.

The question is, how the hell was Gary getting back and forward from Liverpool to London (and the time portal) in the middle of the night in the 40s? That episode seemed like the writers had forgotten that Gary could only time travel via Duckett's passage. He's simply pop out of Phoebe's gran's front door in Liverpool and the next scene would have him in 90s London!
I assume that was just a bit of a plot hole that they ignored for the sake of the story. I think that train journeys took pretty much the same amount of time as today but I doubt they would have ran during the night.
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Old 21-06-2013, 14:09
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I assume that was just a bit of a plot hole that they ignored for the sake of the story. I think that train journeys took pretty much the same amount of time as today but I doubt they would have ran during the night.
Especially during wartime, I would have thought. Gary seemed to flit between Liverpool and London (i.e. the 40s and the 90s) several times during the brief night or two he was visiting Phoebe's gran!
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:03
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Mail and freight trains were running all night during the war. And very little went any other way in the 40s. So maybe he could use his 'spy' background to blag overnight trips?
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:14
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Mail and freight trains were running all night during the war. And very little went any other way in the 40s. So maybe he could use his 'spy' background to blag overnight trips?
Interesting - you'd think that might have been addressed. The whole episode seemed like it was written by someone who had no conception of British geography.
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:51
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the whole series was unrealistic anyway, especially near the end, so it doesn't really matter about how Gary got from Liverpool to London and back ect...

if they'd been realistic and made sure Gary couldn't get back in the same night then they'd have no story!

having said that, the episode where Phoebe and Yvonne both wanted to move to California has a similar theme about Gary having to come back to London to use the time warp, maybe there was a time portal over there!! he never checked!!

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Old 18-11-2013, 15:48
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It has been reported today that Gary Sparrow is coming back - but not on TV. As a stage musical.

The original writers are finalising 'Goodnight Sweetheart' the musical featuring songs from the 40s and 80s. This will include the TV characters and be a story based on the series but no word on casting yet (presumably not the original actors from TV and they would need to sing and dance - though we can hope some might be included somehow!)

Should go on tour later next year.

Marks and Gran are, of course, bringing back Birds of a Feather (on ITV) early in the new year with the original cast. They are also writing a pilot comedy for the BBC starring Paul O'Grady and Cilla Black.

Whilst bringing Goodnight Sweetheart back to TV is not currently planned, the Birds of a Feather return started off as a stage play - so who knows?
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Old 18-11-2013, 15:50
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It has been reported today that Gary Sparrow is coming back - but not on TV. As a stage musical.

The original writers are finalising 'Goodnight Sweetheart' the musical featuring songs from the 40s and 80s. This will include the TV characters but no word on casting yet (presumably not the originals from TV and they would need to sing and dance!)

Should go on tour later next year.

Marks and Gran are, of course, bringing back Birds of a Feather (on ITV) early in the new year with the original cast. They are also writing a pilot comedy for the BBC starring Paul O'Grady and Cilla Black.

So, whilst bringing Goodnight Sweetheart back to TV is not currently planned, the Birds of a Feather return started off as a stage play - so who knows?
They've been saying this for years - it is definitely confirmed? I heard it had been shelved about five years ago.
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Old 18-11-2013, 15:52
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They've been saying this for years - it is definitely confirmed? I heard it had been shelved about five years ago.
BBC News are reporting it from Marks and Gran supposedly. Long piece about it as it is 20 years since the show started.

Looks as if it might really be happening this time.
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Old 18-11-2013, 16:00
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BBC News are reporting it from Marks and Gran supposedly. Long piece about it as it is 20 years since the show started.

Looks as if it might really be happening this time.
Let's hope so! I can't imagine other people in the main roles, though - especially after we've already swapped the wives. Frankly, I'd rather see a one-off catch-up episode rather than a stage musical - but if it's successful you never know.
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Old 18-11-2013, 23:11
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as its going to be a stage musical i wouldn't be surprised after the success of Dreamboats & Petticoats if Bill Kenwright gets involved in it
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Old 19-11-2013, 17:17
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as its going to be a stage musical i wouldn't be surprised after the success of Dreamboats & Petticoats if Bill Kenwright gets involved in it
And its follow up Save the last dance for me that was on tour this year, that borrowed a couple of minor ideas from Goodnight, Sweetheart (as they admitted - noting they were going to be in the GS musical when they first planned it several years ago but it was dropped).

Their success with these recent touring musicals and their higher profile on TV thanks to ITVs Birds of a Feather revival and the BBC pilot with Cilla Black must factor into why Goodnight Sweetheart is finally happening.
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Old 19-11-2013, 17:48
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the whole series was unrealistic anyway, ....
What?? A series about a time-travelling TV repair man who pretends to be a WWII spy, meets Marie Lloyd, is responsible for the death of Jack the Ripper and saves the life of a UK Prime Minister and you think it unrealistic!
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Old 16-12-2013, 11:53
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What are they up to now would be good.
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Old 16-12-2013, 11:56
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What are they up to now would be good.
You mean a series, or one-off programme, showing Gary, Phoebe, Yvonne and Ron, in the present day and in the equivalent era in the past?
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Old 16-12-2013, 13:21
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You mean a series, or one-off programme, showing Gary, Phoebe, Yvonne and Ron, in the present day and in the equivalent era in the past?
A one off special.
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Old 16-12-2013, 21:43
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I'm not sure about GS as a musical. It could either be very good or very bad.

Love the TV series so much, though. One of the last great traditional sitcoms, and Nicholas Lyndhurst was a joy as Gary Sparrow, who we should hate but can't help but root for. I just can't believe it's been 20 years since the show started. Time for a rewatch of my DVDs, I think!
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Old 16-12-2013, 21:45
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I would really love an update on Garys situation, I highly doubt it will happen though
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Old 16-12-2013, 21:49
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a crimbo special where the time portal opens up again and he gets to see ron again. don't know why they don't do this
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Old 16-12-2013, 21:54
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a crimbo special where the time portal opens up again and he gets to see ron again. don't know why they don't do this
I wish they would however would it be the Dervla Kirwan/Michelle Holmes versions of the two wives or the Liz Carling/Emma Amos replacements? or a mix of either.
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Old 16-12-2013, 22:02
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I wish they would however would it be the Dervla Kirwan/Michelle Holmes versions of the two wives or the Liz Carling/Emma Amos replacements? or a mix of either.
i think dervla would return and emma amos. they were the better characters too
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Old 16-12-2013, 22:38
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I would also like to see that. How long since Gary was lost in the 40s? 15 years from then would find him in the late 50s or early 60s.

Would be fun as a one off. The BBC seem to go through lots of old programmes and go back so maybe one day Goodnight Sweetheart will be in the near future.
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Old 16-12-2013, 22:41
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With David Jason returning to Open All Hours 28 years on minus Ronnie Barker ANYTHING is possible.
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Old 18-12-2013, 09:54
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I would really love an update on Garys situation, I highly doubt it will happen though
The fans would love to see how gary phoebe and Yvon and Ron are doing in the present day.

Just imagine if they did write one where he fell back in present day and met the 2013 wife man he would have alot of explaining to do.

Wasent it hinted by the son that Gary wasent seen for awhile so guessing thats plausable.
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Old 18-12-2013, 10:05
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As its been shown on ITV 3 as well as BBC it could be ITV that bring it back if Birds of a Feather is a success
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Old 18-12-2013, 10:08
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I would love to see them at least have one episode so we all know what's been going on
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