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Old 26-07-2013, 11:33
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Just watched her dance to 'Wanted' and then I found out that she got eliminated that week, how the hell did that happen? She was incredible!!
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Old 27-07-2013, 08:09
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Having watched DWTS in America for all but 2 of the 16 seasons, I'm convinced it's 100% planned, scripted, and manipulated to the nth degree. It was Sabrina's week to go -- the same week she was ousted in her original season.

That week, Week 6 of the "All Stars" season, they still had Emmitt, a former winner and football player (they always get loads of votes); another huge crowd favorite and trophy-winner, Olympic skater Apolo; and a former sexy fan fave & great male dancer (Gilles) -- all 3 would have gotten a lot of the female vote -- they had probably planned a Melissa Rycroft win from the beginning, to give long-suffering Tony his trophy after literally 15 seasons without one, so of course she had to stay; and they had a faux showmance rolling with Kelly/Val that they were determined to wring every tacky drop out of.

And they needed Kirstie as the only comic relief (since Joey Fatone left in Week 2) and they also value Maks a lot, Kirstie's partner, while Louis, not so much.

And the last remaining couple at that point included our teacher's pet and Crown Prince, Derek Hough, for whom they'll do ANYthing to keep in the finals, including throw out all the Internet votes, which happened the week he won his 4th trophy with Kellie Pickler this past May.

So Sabrina was the least important to them at that point - and out she went, right on schedule, bearing in mind, they'd already dumped two former trophy-winners at that point. Our DWTS has more blatant rigging than a cargo ship.
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Old 29-07-2013, 01:30
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Having watched DWTS in America for all but 2 of the 16 seasons, I'm convinced it's 100% planned, scripted, and manipulated to the nth degree. It was Sabrina's week to go -- the same week she was ousted in her original season.

That week, Week 6 of the "All Stars" season, they still had Emmitt, a former winner and football player (they always get loads of votes); another huge crowd favorite and trophy-winner, Olympic skater Apolo; and a former sexy fan fave & great male dancer (Gilles) -- all 3 would have gotten a lot of the female vote -- they had probably planned a Melissa Rycroft win from the beginning, to give long-suffering Tony his trophy after literally 15 seasons without one, so of course she had to stay; and they had a faux showmance rolling with Kelly/Val that they were determined to wring every tacky drop out of.

And they needed Kirstie as the only comic relief (since Joey Fatone left in Week 2) and they also value Maks a lot, Kirstie's partner, while Louis, not so much.

And the last remaining couple at that point included our teacher's pet and Crown Prince, Derek Hough, for whom they'll do ANYthing to keep in the finals, including throw out all the Internet votes, which happened the week he won his 4th trophy with Kellie Pickler this past May.

So Sabrina was the least important to them at that point - and out she went, right on schedule, bearing in mind, they'd already dumped two former trophy-winners at that point. Our DWTS has more blatant rigging than a cargo ship.
You certainly have a vivid imagination, but not one thing you wrote rings true.

Ordinarily I'd address your unfounded accusations point by point, but I don't feel like taking the time now. Maybe later.

After Kellie and Derek's freestyle, every online poll--including the Digital Spy poll--named Kellie the likely winner. A reporter backstage said that none of the jaded reporters applauded for any of the freestyles until Kellie's, then they erupted in applause for the first time that season! The same reporter wrote that Zendaya's freestyle a few minutes later garnered no more than lukewarm applause from the press room.

Here it is, in the reporter's own words:

Kellie Pickler and Derek Hough: Freestyle
Derek emphasized to Kellie how important the freestyle was to winning the show and he should know! The DWTS golden boy was considering using a hammock in their dance — but then he said he was going to strip it down and make it simple. Yay! “Let’s drink to that!” a reporter said to me in the media room. We were sick of supersized and wanted to see straightforward dance, dammit! It started slow, with Derek lifting Kellie off the floor and into some ballet style moves This, too, was very contemporary for me but then Derek let loose with a huge lift and spin of Kellie and he extended her from his back (well, you just had to see it to believe it). Then it just got better and better, beautiful and fluid and emotional. A thrill in the press room! Another huge lift and spin ended the night for the twosome and they were crying and Kel’s husband was teary-eyed in the audience. Carrie Ann was crying, too! Everyone clapped in the press room for the first time this season. Kellie and Derek were going to win! They had to now, right? “Kellie, you just bared your soul on the dance floor,” Carrie Ann sobbed. Len said she was totally immersed in the dance and each other and he stood to applaud them. Bruno said it was a dance of spellbinding beauty. “I’m sure you’ve reached the nation tonight with that performance,” Bruno said. Backstage, Derek was holding back tears and so was I, honestly! Len wished he could give them an 11, and needless to say, it was a perfect score.
Score: 30

Zendaya Coleman and Val Chmerkovskiy: Freestyle
Val and Zendaya, stripped of makeup, were standing in front of corrugated metal and talking about the season and how she’d grown. The Shake it Up star wanted to do hip hop, big surprise there, and Val brought in a troupe of kids to join them in the number. Oh, no! I worried the kids were going to steal the show. Zendaya appeared in a glittery dress, oh good, looking more ballroom than hip hop, but then she and Val were dancing to a hip hop tune and attempting an aggressive, sporty dance. She pointed at the heavens at one point and Val spun her around for dear life but it lacked the lyrical quality Kellie and Derek had just created. And it got more MTV when the kids joined them at the end. Only a little tepid applause in the press room. Len said it all came together in a fabulous routine. According to Bruno, Zendaya gave a luminosity to everything she did. Carrie Ann wasn’t crying, but called Zendaya a role model. Of course it was perfectly judged but I still think we’d see the golden couple, Kellie and Derek, hoisting the mirror ball on Tuesday night. Catch you tomorrow!
Score: 30 http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/...ear-favorites/
Even Louis Van Amstel, who had been tapped by the brothers Chermovskiy to work with them, wrote that while Zendaya won the Cha Cha relay, Kellie deserved the MBT. As Louis wrote in his blog:

May 21, 2013 7:39am

“Dancing With the Stars” pro Louis van Amstel blogs on season 16 of “DWTS.” The three-time world dance champion and creator of LaBlast fitness-based dance DVD workouts has starred on seven seasons of the hit ABC show and weighs in on the dances, the judges’ scores and who will be eliminated each week. You can find him on Twitter @LouisvanAmstel.

By Louis Van Amstel

This week I’m doing it a little different from other weeks and seasons. I actually watched the show before I started writing my blog and want to rank each round how I see it. Let’s get started.

Round 1: Zendaya and Val won by a small margin. Her samba was great, energetic and rhythmical. Kellie and Derek were second. Their quickstep was very good, but her hold was sometimes a questionable classic Ballroom hold. Aly and Mark were third. To beat Kellie or Zendaya, Aly just needed to execute her movement with more finesse and spark. Jacoby, unfortunately, was clearly fourth. I don’t think he had his best night in the finals.

Round 2: Again, I think Zendaya won. It looked so rehearsed, crisp, yet easy, while Kellie looked a bit pensive during her cha-cha. I had Aly third, but knocking on Kellie’s door for second place. Jacoby was far behind the rest Monday night. He was a bit off. Having said all of this, all couples had three dances, plus the pressure of the freestyle.

Let’s talk FREESTYLE. Many times couples won their season by winning the freestyle, even though the rest of season wasn’t as great. This season, I think it’s going to be so close between two, maybe three couples. Unfortunately, Jacoby is out for the Mirror Ball trophy by just not having the edge in any of his dances Monday night, including his freestyle.

I think for second and third place, it’s a tossup between the freestyles of Zendaya and Aly. For concept, risk level and creativity, I’d give second place to Aly and Mark. But for expression and execution, I’d give second place in the freestyle round to Zendaya.

Absolute miles above the rest, and winning the freestyle round, was Kellie and Derek’s contemporary freestyle. Everything about it was immaculate. It was raw, real, beautifully executed, so musical and internally felt.

The Scores (First dance, second dance, freestyle dance, grand total)

Zendaya and Val Chmerkovskiy: 30, 5, 30. Total: 65
Kellie Pickler and Derek Hough: 30, 4, 30. Total: 64
Aly Raisman and Mark Ballas: 28, 3, 30. Total: 61
Jacoby Jones and Karina Smirnoff: 27, 2, 27. Total: 56

So, if you judge it on freestyle alone, Kellie will take away the Mirror Ball trophy. Looking back at her season, she has been nothing but consistent. Sometimes she was too much in her head, but always physically giving it her all.


If you look at showing personality, performance level and always giving well-rounded show stoppers, Zendaya could definitely win. She sometimes had issues finishing off her movement, but she also had very consistent weeks.

Even though Aly got a late start, by being in the middle of the pack until well into the competition, with her fan base, she might still be able to overtake Kellie and Zendaya. Like I said last week with Ingo, the same goes for Jacoby this week. The only way for him to win is if his fan base will stay up all night to vote. Otherwise, it couldn’t happen.

After all is said and done, I don’t want to just be diplomatic and not pick a winner, because that would be kind of lame, so … drumroll. Taking the entire season into account, looking at dance technique, performance, overall personality, and who I think touched us watching this season, I’d give the Mirror Ball trophy of Season 16 to Kellie Pickler! http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertai...on-final-week/
You can go to virtually any YouTube channel that posted the freestyles and see that Kellie's freestyle typically has more than FIVE TIMES as many views as Zendaya's, while some of Zendaya's other dances have many more views than Kellie's other dances. It's trite to say, but I believe Kellie and Derek really did win it on the freestyle. On TheTribalGuyCouncil's channel, Kellie's freestyle currently has 535,993 views to Zendaya's 100,872 views. TheVocalVault channel has the spread 312,466 Kellie to 77,683 Zendaya.

I don't pretend to know why Sabrina didn't get enough votes to last past Week 6, only that she was never a high-visibility celebrity but merely a member of the always-obscure Disney group "Cheetah Girls" that disbanded years ago.

But to repeat the mea culpa of a bigger name than you who accused DWTS of fudging the numbers, here's the apology that Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak wrote:

STEVE WOZNIAK RETRACTS 'DANCING WITH THE STARS' ALLEGATIONS, APOLOGIZES

By Christopher Rocchio, 03/18/2009

Steve Wozniak has apparently had a change of heart in regards to his Dancing with the Stars conspiracy theory.

The billionaire Apple Computer co-founder has retracted and apologized for a Monday night email to his Facebook support group in which he accused Dancing with the Stars' producers of potentially manipulating home viewer voting results to attract more viewers.

"We know how easy it is to espouse a lot of ideas and build conspiracy theory. No conspiracy theory can be proven wrong, so there are always plenty of die-hard followers," Wozniak wrote in a Tuesday night posting to his Facebook group. "I have been around the Internet conspiracy theory forums for too long."

"Yesterday I wrote my suspicions of the secret Dancing with the Stars audience vote tabulations. I wrote that the producers were liars, simply because I truly believed in that possibility, not because I had a shred of evidence," Wozniak said in the message, which he wrote just before Dancing with the Stars' Tuesday night results show began.

"I hurt a lot of honest people. Today, a storm kicked up over my allegations. I started my apologies but it has to go further than that."

In his since-removed Monday night posting, Wozniak -- who offered no specific details to support his allegations -- seemed to be of the belief that although he had finished dead last in the judges' scoring for his first two Dancing with the Stars performances, his home viewer support was strong that the only way he could possibly end up in last night's bottom two was if the show's producers manipulated the voting results.

"The producers play games to get viewers and don't disclose the numbers," Wozniak wrote in his Monday posting, according to CNet's news.com. "If they disclosed the numbers, it would be less of a game, but still suspect. If tomorrow, they claim I'm in the bottom 2 dance teams, including viewer votes, I believe that it's an outright lie."

Wozniak also apparently felt that he was so popular with home viewers that his participation in last night's "Dance Off" -- the first in Dancing with the Stars' history -- would be a huge boom for the broadcast's ratings.

"I'm sure they want me in this dance-off to get higher Tuesday ratings, and they have preplanned it so that I win," he wrote, according to news.com.

However Wozniak forsaw one potential monkey wrench in the producers' plan: the foot fracture he recently suffered.

"If my leg acts up tomorrow, they will either have to announce another pair as being the lowest or send me home, and I don't think they will give me up," he added.

Wozniak went on to write that he had even repeatedly voiced his belief that producer manipulation was the only way he could end up in the Tuesday night "Dance Off" -- which he partner Karina Smirnoff did end up participating in against singer Belinda Carlisle and her partner Jonathan Roberts -- during interview segments he had recorded on Monday.

"I called it fake about 20 times today on camera, each time in the same sentence as whatever comment they wanted about doing a dance-off tomorrow," he wrote, according to news.com. "That way, they couldn't edit it easily to say what they wanted. They kept trying to get me to say what I'd do if I was in the dance-off without using the word fake."

In addition, Wozniak warned viewers that what they might see in his Tuesday night video package might not be entirely accurate.

"They will have some small video tomorrow of me saying things that I strongly told them I don't believe," he wrote, according to news.com. "They will also shoot me in a one-hour rehearsal tomorrow with my partner, but I'll keep calling the idea of my being in the bottom 2, after audience participation, a lie."

Wozniak and Smirnoff subsequently survived the "Dance Off" and Carlisle and Roberts were the first eighth-season couple eliminated from the competition.

In his apology and retraction, Wozniak wrote that he spoke with "top people" at Dancing with the Stars -- the "ones responsible for counting audience votes and keeping them honest" -- and was told there were no shenanigans taking place.


"[They] told me all the specific details of where their numbers came from. More than that, they explained how they can catch onto various forms of manipulation of the system by exactly the methods I had thought out in my head that would work," he explained.

"I was offered an opportunity to see the equipment they use also. You can tell when things are extremely on the level. You can also see why the exact totals cannot be released. That would make it harder to detect fraud. One main way that they detect fraud is when the phone-in votes and text votes and Internet votes don't follow each other, percentage-wise. There are other things they look for as well that IT experts would detect as signals of something wrong."

In addition, Wozniak wrote he felt "so horrible inside" about the way his accusations made Dancing with the Stars executive producer Conrad Green feel.

"[Green] told me how horribly what I had said injured the show and himself," wrote Wozniak. "You can tell when someone is speaking in a way that they can't possibly be a liar or trying to deceive you the least bit. Conrad and the other producers are not liars. They are extremely honest people in my mind. And nobody could get me to write this if I didn't believe it myself. In this case they are certainly more honorable and honest than myself."

Wozniak concluded by explaining his conspiracy theory on the fact that "emotions wind up getting very high on a show like this."

"I was around some swarming emotions yesterday. Now I feel like a heel who stuck his shoe in his mouth, no puns intended. I have done it before and been on the other end of it as well, and it's not nice either way," he wrote.

"My last hope is that you can see inside of me and know that I am telling the truth from the bottom of my heart, and forgive the loudmouth emotional notes I wrote earlier. I'm on to have fun with the show now, and you may see me dance in minutes."
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Old 31-07-2013, 00:55
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Having watched DWTS in America for all but 2 of the 16 seasons, I'm convinced it's 100% planned, scripted, and manipulated to the nth degree. It was Sabrina's week to go -- the same week she was ousted in her original season.

That week, Week 6 of the "All Stars" season, they still had Emmitt, a former winner and football player (they always get loads of votes); another huge crowd favorite and trophy-winner, Olympic skater Apolo; and a former sexy fan fave & great male dancer (Gilles) -- all 3 would have gotten a lot of the female vote -- they had probably planned a Melissa Rycroft win from the beginning, to give long-suffering Tony his trophy after literally 15 seasons without one, so of course she had to stay; and they had a faux showmance rolling with Kelly/Val that they were determined to wring every tacky drop out of.

And they needed Kirstie as the only comic relief (since Joey Fatone left in Week 2) and they also value Maks a lot, Kirstie's partner, while Louis, not so much.

And the last remaining couple at that point included our teacher's pet and Crown Prince, Derek Hough, for whom they'll do ANYthing to keep in the finals, including throw out all the Internet votes, which happened the week he won his 4th trophy with Kellie Pickler this past May.

So Sabrina was the least important to them at that point - and out she went, right on schedule, bearing in mind, they'd already dumped two former trophy-winners at that point. Our DWTS has more blatant rigging than a cargo ship.
I agree with most of that. It is clearly heavily scripted and it wasn't a coincidence that Sabrina left at the same stage.
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