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Old 19-09-2013, 22:13
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It better not be recorded vocals.
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:19
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Maybe Azerbaijan will receive a 100 point head start in the final.
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:21
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This really worries me!
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:24
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Maybe Azerbaijan will receive a 100 point head start in the final.
He said important changes
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:33
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Melfest should be a blast next year

http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/ma...urce=shortlink

Hope these weren't Jon Ola Sand's changes!
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:37
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Melfest should be a blast next year

http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/ma...urce=shortlink

Hope these weren't Jon Ola Sand's changes!
Sean Banan can stop the fruit euphemisms now.
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:50
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It's gonna be recorded vocals isn't it. Or some huge change to the voting system. I want to be optimistic, but I can't help thinking that JOS just wants to make as much money for Azerbaijan as he can. Of course, it might simply be reversing what SVT did, but I think it'll be bigger than that.
Edit: Could it be the abolition of the Big 5?
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Old 19-09-2013, 22:55
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It's gonna be recorded vocals isn't it. Or some huge change to the voting system. I want to be optimistic, but I can't help thinking that JOS just wants to make as much money for Azerbaijan as he can. Of course, it might simply be reversing what SVT did, but I think it'll be bigger than that.
Edit: Could it be the abolition of the Big 5?
God no, that would take years of consultations and agreements

It's probably something simple, maybe increasing persons allowed on stage to 8?

I always felt so sorry for that 7th member of Mandinga
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Old 19-09-2013, 23:00
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I'm hoping for 8 people max and random order again, but we'll see.
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Old 19-09-2013, 23:02
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"Azerbaijan will now automatically qualify for the final, decide on the running order, pay for the phone lines....."
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Old 19-09-2013, 23:08
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ALERT. ALERT.

Jon Ola Sand ‏@jonolasand 2m
An exciting day ahead: Tomorrow (Friday) we will release the 2014 #Eurovision Song Contest Rules, ft. some important changes

I wonder if they're changing everything the Swedes did back?
Exciting, but scary!

Hoping it's not recorded vocals, may as well go back to 100% televote if so

Hoping that they will go back to a random draw
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Old 19-09-2013, 23:10
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I hope its nothing too major, we don't need prerecorded backing vocals and they don't need to mess with the points or anything, a change back to random draws would be great though.
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Old 19-09-2013, 23:57
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I really hope they're upping the max number of people on stage, I've been saying it needs to be done for ages.
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Old 20-09-2013, 08:46
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Maybe cities bidding to stage the show and not just handing it to the winner and hoping they've got a venue free and big enough to cope.
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Old 20-09-2013, 09:44
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Jury rules tightened: http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?i...n_song_contest

A good move. As long as exposing the members of he jury prior to the contest doesn't open them up to being targeted for corruption..
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Old 20-09-2013, 10:35
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Is that the important change or are we still waiting on something else?
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Old 20-09-2013, 10:54
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Is that the important change or are we still waiting on something else?
I think so.

I too am worried that exposing them opens them up to more corruption however since we will find out each jury members full ranking they might be too scared that they will be individually found out.

Rehearsals will start on the 27th of April I think.
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:10
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http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?i..._a_fair_result

Interview With Jon Ola Sand where he talks a bit about the investigation into the vote rigging scandal. Seems like they are getting tough talking about sanctions for anyone involved.
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:26
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http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?i..._a_fair_result

Interview With Jon Ola Sand where he talks a bit about the investigation into the vote rigging scandal. Seems like they are getting tough talking about sanctions for anyone involved.
I'll believe it when it happens.

I do like the idea of the naming of the jury members though. About time that happened. We only ever seem to hear the names of those involved in the UK jury via leaks after the fact.
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:29
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Interview With Jon Ola Sand where he talks a bit about the investigation into the vote rigging scandal. Seems like they are getting tough talking about sanctions for anyone involved.
ahahahahaha
"We are doing this very thoroughly, and will take the time we need." = "We're still waiting for people to forget about the scandal so we can brush the results under the carpet"
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:32
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http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?i..._a_fair_result

Interview With Jon Ola Sand where he talks a bit about the investigation into the vote rigging scandal. Seems like they are getting tough talking about sanctions for anyone involved.
Seems like the added transparency has already begun given the candid nature of the interview; I'm amazed they broached the issue of the belief that nothing will result from the investigation for one.

Why is EBU/EUROVISION implementing these rules now, and not before?

Since reintroducing the juries in 2009, we have constantly worked on the jury procedures. We have tightened the measures every year, and gained more information. This was a natural next step.
Yes, and I'm sure the media exposes did nothing to hasten or bring about that next step in any way.

Some fans and journalists suggest that the investigation will lead to nothing and no one will get punished. What is your view on this?

First, this is not about punishing.
It's this statement that makes me think the EBU still won't act to any significant degree if they do find evidence of vote rigging.

For EBU/EUROVISION it`s important to find who is behind the alleged attempt, and if we find any wrongdoing that originates from a participating broadcaster...
Bet the shredding of documents and wiping of hard drives at Ictimai is intensifying in earnest.

...the Reference Group and the TV Committee will impose sanctions according to the rules of the Eurovision Song Contest.
Do the rules have a provision for a participating broadcaster to be thrown out of the Contest?
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:45
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I hear next year's Azeri song has the following chorus:

"We don't wanna put in! The correct tally of votes,
They are worked out with bank notes!

We don't wanna put in! The actual scores
Cos nobody actually knows!"
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:45
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Do the rules have a provision for a participating broadcaster to be thrown out of the Contest?
The only country I can think of that's been thrown out was Lebanon and they had a 3 year ban for refusing to show the Israeli song, don't think there was anything in the 2014 rules though.
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:51
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I really want the running order rule reversed. It took a lot of the excitement out of it for me this year!
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Old 20-09-2013, 11:56
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Reading the rules at the mo, and I see that the jury members have to be named on air during the Final by each countries respective commentators. Wasn't expecting that.
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