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Old 31-07-2014, 12:13
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TBN UK launched on LCN 65 on Arq A - 31/07/14 around 11:30am

Community Channel has been switched off while the barker loop promoting TBN UK launches on 5th January 2015

Meanwhile, TruTV is to launch on Arq A on Monday? What would be the configuration of streams? To have 14 streams?
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Old 31-07-2014, 12:24
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Using Digital Bitrate website - there were 2.4Mb/s of null packets before TBN UK video launched:

http://en.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php...ng=en&mux=ARQA
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Old 31-07-2014, 13:06
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TBN UK launched on LCN 65 on Arq A - 31/07/14 around 11:30am

Community Channel has been switched off while the barker loop promoting TBN UK launches on 5th January 2015

Meanwhile, TruTV is to launch on Arq A on Monday? What would be the configuration of streams? To have 14 streams?
it looks like the loop on Trutv is only run on freeview for the time being. as its not showing on SKY.
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Old 31-07-2014, 13:42
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I've just tuned in now just after lunch to find both TBN UK and TruTV are both running video - so does this confirm that there are 14 video streams running on ARQ A?
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Old 31-07-2014, 13:59
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one of those channels mite be time sharing with the Community Channel. but its hard to say what one it is.
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Old 31-07-2014, 14:06
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Null packets has now dropped to 1.0Mb/s with one new video stream - Tru TV running @ 2.9Mb/s and TBN UK @3.2Mb/s compared with E4+1 @4.8Mb/s.

The video streams are as follows on ARQ A:

24 HOURS
1) Pick
2) Challenge
3) Sky News
4) Gems TV
5) Food Network
6) Movies4Men
7) Movie Mix
8) Quest +1
9) TruTV*
10) E4+1

11) from 04:00 Blue /from 05:00 Babestation 2 /from 08:00 Really
12) from 06:00 Create & Craft /from 18:00 Travel Channel /from 22:00 Smile TV 2
13) from 03:00 Party /from 07:00 Dave
14) from 00:00 Party /from 03:00 Community Channel /from 08:00 TBN UK* full launch 5 January 2014

* As the previous post says, either Tru TV or TBN UK timeshare with Community Channel and Adult Party. As the previous MHEG slate for Tru TV said it is to run for 24 hours, the above has been presumed correct.
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Old 31-07-2014, 14:53
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I'm a bit confused - I have video from Community Channel (63), TBN UK (65) and TruTV (68); earlier posts said that Community Channel had been switched off.
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Old 31-07-2014, 15:47
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I'm a bit confused - I have video from Community Channel (63), TBN UK (65) and TruTV (68); earlier posts said that Community Channel had been switched off.
sorry yes the Community Channel (63) is off air you mite need to do a rescan on your tv or box.
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Old 31-07-2014, 16:16
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sorry yes the Community Channel (63) is off air you mite need to do a rescan on your tv or box.
Er, no it isn't, that is the point I was making.

Edit: Sorry!!!! My mistake, I completely forgot that I had moved the HD version to 63 on my newest TV (that actually allows such things) so you're right, ignore me.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:26
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Null packets has now dropped to 1.0Mb/s with one new video stream
Perhaps they will, heaven forbid, try to squeeze in a 15th video stream.
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:08
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How long are channels allowed to have a channel on Freeview before they need to broadcast actual programmes rather than trailers?

TBN UK not starting till Jan 2015 seems a long time!
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:42
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How long are channels allowed to have a channel on Freeview before they need to broadcast actual programmes rather than trailers?

TBN UK not starting till Jan 2015 seems a long time!
If they have a licence from Ofcom, are paying their mux operator , digital uk and their code and mux contractor , and what they broadcast is within the Ofcom guidelines who is there to stop them ?

No one controls the uk DTT platform.
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:37
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How long are channels allowed to have a channel on Freeview before they need to broadcast actual programmes rather than trailers?

TBN UK not starting till Jan 2015 seems a long time!
Channel 5+24 / 5 Later took an enternity to launch, too.

As long as they are broadcasting something, that's what counts. To pay for the carriage so many months ahead and to broadcast a loop for so many hours a day when Freeview carriage is so costly, appears to show they've got more money than sense. The slot could be sublet for a few months until launch time, like what Quest did before it launched, for example, perhaps leaving a two hour slot off-peak to broadcast something within three months to keep the LCN.

Incidentally, TBN must have been originally allocated the LCN in March, before CBS was assigned 66.
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Old 02-08-2014, 15:45
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Perhaps they will, heaven forbid, try to squeeze in a 15th video stream.
Perhaps they could squeeze the Community Channel back in (nearly) full-time. It was better than the channels it has been removed for.
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Old 02-08-2014, 15:50
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How long are channels allowed to have a channel on Freeview before they need to broadcast actual programmes rather than trailers?

TBN UK not starting till Jan 2015 seems a long time!
It is ridiculous at waiting for 5 months but I like the song that's on though, wonder who it is?
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Old 04-08-2014, 16:19
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Channel 5+24 / 5 Later took an enternity to launch, too.

As long as they are broadcasting something, that's what counts. To pay for the carriage so many months ahead and to broadcast a loop for so many hours a day when Freeview carriage is so costly, appears to show they've got more money than sense. The slot could be sublet for a few months until launch time, like what Quest did before it launched, for example, perhaps leaving a two hour slot off-peak to broadcast something within three months to keep the LCN.

Incidentally, TBN must have been originally allocated the LCN in March, before CBS was assigned 66.
Looking through the Ofcom License update topic, TBN had in November 2013 a licence to broadcast on DTT for TBN Europe. But then in March 2014 the day CBS got their licence to broadcast either handed ti back or got it removed and the next day got TBN UK listed instead so may have brought the LCN across from the 'original' service.
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Old 07-08-2014, 20:08
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TBN UK launched on LCN 65 on Arq A - 31/07/14 around 11:30am

Community Channel has been switched off while the barker loop promoting TBN UK launches on 5th January 2015

Meanwhile, TruTV is to launch on Arq A on Monday? What would be the configuration of streams? To have 14 streams?
Seems an odd time to launch a loop for a "British" tv channel a few weeks before the potential break-up of the UK commences.
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Old 08-08-2014, 19:23
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It is ridiculous at waiting for 5 months but I like the song that's on though, wonder who it is?
I can wait, tuned into the TBN preview the other night and it sounded like John Barrowman. Although I'm sure it isn't for some reason.
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Old 09-08-2014, 23:03
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TBN UK not starting till Jan 2015 seems a long time!
Not long enough for my tastes.
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Old 11-08-2014, 18:01
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Doesn't seem a particularly Christian thing to do to take up valuable spectrum with a short looping video for five months, particularly when it's a channel for UK-based charities, community groups and voluntary organisations that appears to be losing out. Maybe they could gift Community Channel the spectrum for the rest of the year?
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Old 14-08-2014, 13:52
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Doesn't seem a particularly Christian thing to do to take up valuable spectrum with a short looping video for five months, particularly when it's a channel for UK-based charities, community groups and voluntary organisations that appears to be losing out. Maybe they could gift Community Channel the spectrum for the rest of the year?
On the other hand, Community Channel maybe never had them hours and were an interim channel as those hours belonged to Shop at Bid / Price Drop originally and Community were the "caretakers" of sorts of the slot and don't forget they have a 24 hour stream on HD LCN109. With the move toward DVB-T2 this conversation may be moot in a few years anyway. So there may be no need of spectrum "gifting" to do anyway.
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Old 24-08-2014, 05:11
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Not long enough for my tastes.
As an atheist, I'll be tuned in 24/7 365.

It's close isn't it, which is the biggest waste of bandwidth. A religious channel or a shopping channel.

No one controls the uk DTT platform.
If ever there was a case of when alarm bells should be ringing.
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Old 24-08-2014, 05:39
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As an atheist, I'll be tuned in 24/7 365.

It's close isn't it, which is the biggest waste of bandwidth. A religious channel or a shopping channel.



If ever there was a case of when alarm bells should be ringing.
I totally agree unfortunately those with deep pockets always get what they want (in this case TBN).
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Old 24-08-2014, 07:40
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If ever there was a case of when alarm bells should be ringing.
Why .... No one controlled the ATT platform ...

It is how horizontal markets tend to operate.
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Old 24-08-2014, 09:41
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On the other hand, Community Channel maybe never had them hours and were an interim channel as those hours belonged to Shop at Bid / Price Drop originally and Community were the "caretakers" of sorts of the slot and don't forget they have a 24 hour stream on HD LCN109. With the move toward DVB-T2 this conversation may be moot in a few years anyway. So there may be no need of spectrum "gifting" to do anyway.
I did read somewhere (can't remember where, sorry - unless it was CC's own website?) that all hours are "gifted" to the Community Channel. Unfortunately, I don't have an HD box at present and can't watch 109. Shame really - I might have watched Community Channel programmes. I wont be watching any god botherer channels.
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