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Illegal immigrants abusing our library

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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    Oh stop being so melodramatic. It's a computer at the library.

    BTW, if you're still on the computer in the library you've had WAY over two hours, or do the rules not apply to you?

    I'm at home on my phone so wind your neck in!
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    TrollHunterTrollHunter Posts: 12,496
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    I think what could tip Mark over the edge is if he finds out they're litter louts too!!
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    Dragonlady 25Dragonlady 25 Posts: 8,587
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    I'm at home on my phone so wind your neck in!

    My neck is well in it's place, ta very much! :)
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    It's not the point. Perhaps you could park your car on the next road so I can park outside your house?

    I pay to use that library, they don't.

    So far you've been in your 2-hour slot since 11.20 this morning.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,510
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Well what status are they then? Pending an asylum claim?

    How did they get here? On a visa via Heathrow? Somehow I doubt it!

    Ahha now we get to the real issue. We just threw in the library crapp to make a story
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    WokStation wrote: »
    You can park outside someone's house as long as it's not restricted/permit parking. You don't have the right to the parking space outside your house.



    Riiiight, you're sure all of them are "illegal", huh? You quizzed each and made sure none pay council tax?

    Oh don't be stupid. They all got their Home Office documents out when they were asked to.

    How about you stand on the train, because despite you having First Class reserved seats, a fare dodger is sat in them. Fine by you?
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    The lot of you can **** off!
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    Ahha now we get to the real issue. We just threw in the library crapp to make a story

    Ring Wakefield Library if you don't believe me.
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    Dragonlady 25Dragonlady 25 Posts: 8,587
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Oh don't be stupid. They all got their Home Office documents out when they were asked to.

    How about you stand on the train, because despite you having First Class reserved seats, a fare dodger is sat in them. Fine by you?

    BIB which we decided pages ago gives them rights as asylum seekers, not illegals.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    I'm at home on my phone so wind your neck in!

    Did you sprint there? Because you've been posting at very short intervals since 11.20 and have declared yourself to be at the library twice.
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    Dragonlady 25Dragonlady 25 Posts: 8,587
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    The lot of you can **** off!

    :confused:
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    WokStationWokStation Posts: 23,112
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    :confused:

    I think that's annoyance that we're not taking it all at face value and decrying it for the travesty it is!
    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Oh don't be stupid. They all got their Home Office documents out when they were asked to.
    Why were you asking them for their documents? And if you didn't ask them, why were you snooping on whoever did?
    How about you stand on the train, because despite you having First Class reserved seats, a fare dodger is sat in them. Fine by you?

    Not really, because a condition of carriage on the railway is paying your ticket, but it's not a condition of library use that you pay Council Tax (despite you not knowing if these people do or not, you didnt even know if they were legal, so how you'd know their tax status is beyond me). Rubbish comparison :D
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    WokStation wrote: »
    Why were you asking them for their documents? And if you didn't ask them, why were you snooping on whoever did?



    Not really, because a condition of carriage on the railway is paying your ticket, but it's not a condition of library use that you pay Council Tax (despite you not knowing if these people do or not, you didnt even know if they were legal, so how you'd know their tax status is beyond me). Rubbish comparison :D

    Library staff were asking them to make their name matches the name on the library computer reservation.
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    Dragonlady 25Dragonlady 25 Posts: 8,587
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    Mark, you're boxing yourself into a corner. You say you're at home so switch your 'phone off, make a cup of tea and relax. If you're still chewed off, do something productive-clean the windows or something.

    :)
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    DianaFire wrote: »
    Did you sprint there? Because you've been posting at very short intervals since 11.20 and have declared yourself to be at the library twice.

    Library twice, where?

    I also have mobile internet. It is 2014, even here!
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    WinterLilyWinterLily Posts: 6,308
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    It's not the point. Perhaps you could park your car on the next road so I can park outside your house?

    I pay to use that library, they don't.

    The point is if your unhappy with a situation you seek to change what you can change.
    They are asylum seekers and most probably do not have the means to pay. Are you not able to share the library usage with those who are less well off than yourself? (and I don't mean simply financial value).

    Therefore you can at least attempt to do quite a lot of the things many posters have mentioned on here such as:

    Use a friend's PC
    Go the library at a less busy time/get there early
    Buy a cheap laptop
    Complain to the library and local council that nothing is being done about the situation.

    Your 'fight' is with the library and not with the asylum seekers. Please do not use them as a scapegoat.
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    Mark, you're boxing yourself into a corner. You say you're at home so switch your 'phone off, make a cup of tea and relax. If you're still chewed off, do something productive-clean the windows or something.

    :)

    I'm defending myself against some pretty shitty comments from you lot.
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    WokStationWokStation Posts: 23,112
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Library staff were asking them to make their name matches the name on the library computer reservation.
    So you snooped on all of them while they presented personal documents to someone running the library, despite it being none of your business what those docs said?

    Snooping on stranger's private documents is worse than hogging a computer, in my view.
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    DianaFireDianaFire Posts: 12,711
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    Library twice, where?

    I also have mobile internet. It is 2014, even here!

    Twice in this thread. Check your posting history.
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    Mark1974Mark1974 Posts: 4,162
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    WinterLily wrote: »
    The point is if your unhappy with a situation you seek to change what you can change.
    They are asylum seekers and most probably do not have the means to pay. Are you not able to share the library usage with those who are less well off than yourself? (and I don't mean simply financial value).

    Therefore you can at least attempt to do quite a lot of the things many posters have mentioned on here such as:

    Use a friend's PC
    Go the library at a less busy time/get there early
    Buy a cheap laptop
    Complain to the library and local council that nothing is being done about the situation.

    Your 'fight' is with the library and not with the asylum seekers. Please do not use them as a scapegoat.

    It's the asylum seekers who are abusing the system. Read ALL my comments.
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    Dragonlady 25Dragonlady 25 Posts: 8,587
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    I'm defending myself against some pretty shitty comments from you lot.

    My point is you;re not going to win so give up gracefully. Even Yorkshire men can be graceful you know!! ;-) :D
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    Vast_GirthVast_Girth Posts: 9,793
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    So the answer is, if you don't like it, buy a PC?

    How about dealing with the issue?

    So by the same logic, if a bad family move to a neighbourhood, if people don't like it they should move?

    Ultimately the problem is there are not enough computers to go round, irregardless of who it is using them. Wait your turn and if you don't like it, then yes, go buy a PC.

    Just because you pay tax does not give you any-more right than anyone else to use the library facilities. They are there for everybody. Kids don't pay tax either, why not kick them out?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,074
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    It's the asylum seekers who are abusing the system. Read ALL my comments.
    So not illegal immigrants then.
    Asylum seekers do not enter the nation illegally as they have the right to do so under Article 14 of the 1948 Universal declaration of human rights. The UNHR emphasis that they should not be called illegal immigrants.
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    Kiko H FanKiko H Fan Posts: 6,546
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    Mark1974 wrote: »
    As an employed, council tax paying library user, who's on his day off, also looking at other more productive sites, I'll use this PC for what the hell I like.

    You can still buy pornographic magazines in the newsagents.
    They are still on the top shelf, but tend to have censored or obscured covers.
    Your newsagent will be able to help and advise you.
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    BelligerenceBelligerence Posts: 40,613
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    It's frighteningly like something from the Daily Mail random headline generator,

    "Will illegal immigrants hog our computers?"


    or,
    ARE MUSLIMS BURGLING BRITAIN'S FARMERS?

    or,
    COULD THE EURO CHEAT HARD-WORKING FAMILIES?

    or,
    COULD FACEBOOK STEAL THE IDENTITY OF TAXPAYERS' MONEY?
    or
    HAVE SINGLE MOTHERS DEFRAUDED YOUR PENSION?
    or
    COULD IMMIGRANTS CHEAT MIDDLE BRITAIN?

    lots more here,

    http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/

    :D
    Ah that is a gem. :D
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