I agree. I remember thinking at the time who needs a mother like that? :eek: But i also assumed it was who he was and she wouldn't have pimped her out to just any old bloke
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The Sun didn't. I remember their headlines around that time.
The tabloids referred to Mandy as a "wild child" - one of several at the time who frequented night clubs and got up to shenanigans with much older men. It struck me at the time as odd that children with such high profiles could get into night clubs at all and why the police never raided them.
Yep. And to all those who say 'it was a different time', even then pretty much everyone thought it was disgusting and wrong.
I did. Am a similar age to Mandy and remember being disgusted by the 'wild child' era and the way that the press, espcially the NOTW, exploited it. The names of Mandy Smith, Amanda de Cadanet and Emma Ridley (plus a few others) were flouted on a weekly basis while they were still underage. I remember thinking it weird that nobody seemed to do anything about it- lest of all their parents. I also remember Mandy's marriage to Bill Wyman and how ill she became.
Too much, too young and some of those dirty old rockers should have known better 'even back in those days'.:mad:
I did. Am a similar age to Mandy and remember being disgusted by the 'wild child' era and the way that the press, espcially the NOTW, exploited it. The names of Mandy Smith, Amanda de Cadanet and Emma Ridley (plus a few others) were flouted on a weekly basis while they were still underage. I remember thinking it weird that nobody seemed to do anything about it- lest of all their parents. I also remember Mandy's marriage to Bill Wyman and how ill she became.
Too much, too young and some of those dirty old rockers should have known better 'even back in those days'.:mad:
I'm around the same age, too. I remember being horrified and realising, even then, that those poor young women were being used. I fancied popstars as much as anyone, but... eww.
My parents would not have been so accepting, and they were pretty liberal-minded.
Mum nearly married him, iirc. It was sickening. Mandy was basically given up to him by her mother at 13.
It was an odd set-up. Mandy's mum, called Patsy, did marry Bill Wyman's son. They may well still be together. So the Smiths and Wymans are still in-laws. This could be a reason why the Smiths would not have wanted Bill Wyman criminally investigated/ prosecuted over his relationship with Mandy.
Yesterday on Radio 5 a former Scotland Yard officer and Jeff Edwards a crime reporter for the Daily Mirror talked about the naming of people arrested.
Both agreed not the police not naming a person till charged was not a problem. They pointed out it has been long standing practice for the police only to confirm the sex, age and location of a person arrested.
The former police officer in particular had strong views, pointing out sub juidice was from the point of arrest, as both The Sun and Daily Mirror learnt despite no charges being brought against Christopher Jeffries they were found guilty of contempt of court.
The crime reporter agreed with the former police officer that that it is impatience rather the right to know that drives the public and press to want to name an arrested person.
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So her mother basically pimped her underage daughter out, then. Why hasn't she been arrested too?:mad:
Didn't she (Mandy's mum) then go out with his son or something? It was a very odd set-up.
This 2010 Daily Mail article suggests she's not too comfortable with that part of her life, actually.
http://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/why-a-dangerous-police-chief-ban-on-announcing-arrests-will-be-an-own-goal-for-justice/
I agree. I remember thinking at the time who needs a mother like that? :eek: But i also assumed it was who he was and she wouldn't have pimped her out to just any old bloke
TV weatherman Fred Talbot has been released on police bail after arrest following allegations of historic sexual abuse.
Shouldn't that be historical?
I was talking about human beings, not salacious papers.
When the dust settles there will be questions about Thatcher links to paedophiles http://huff.to/16LJ7d3 #Savile #RightonFile
The tabloids referred to Mandy as a "wild child" - one of several at the time who frequented night clubs and got up to shenanigans with much older men. It struck me at the time as odd that children with such high profiles could get into night clubs at all and why the police never raided them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306481/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-CNN-run-PM-JIMMY-SAVILE-picture-tribute-blunder.html
wait for it
the cheque is for:
National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children
That is sickening irony... with the iron lady
Now, looking back with hindsight
How come he cannot be arrested today?
I did. Am a similar age to Mandy and remember being disgusted by the 'wild child' era and the way that the press, espcially the NOTW, exploited it. The names of Mandy Smith, Amanda de Cadanet and Emma Ridley (plus a few others) were flouted on a weekly basis while they were still underage. I remember thinking it weird that nobody seemed to do anything about it- lest of all their parents. I also remember Mandy's marriage to Bill Wyman and how ill she became.
Too much, too young and some of those dirty old rockers should have known better 'even back in those days'.:mad:
I'm around the same age, too. I remember being horrified and realising, even then, that those poor young women were being used. I fancied popstars as much as anyone, but... eww.
My parents would not have been so accepting, and they were pretty liberal-minded.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/thatchers-dad-mayor-preacher-groper-1257249.html
Interesting in the light of her friendship with Savile.
So much for Victorian 'values'.
Mum nearly married him, iirc. It was sickening. Mandy was basically given up to him by her mother at 13.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307547/TV-weatherman-Fred-Talbot-steps-public-time-arrested-historic-schoolboy-sex-abuse-claims.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/archive/1166945.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/feb/11/tracymcveigh.martinbright
Panorama http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WcsITzVKrNQ
sickening. I couldn't watch all of that video
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307610/Bob-Bellew-Gymnastics-coach-sexually-abused-seven-teenage-girls-walks-free-court-judge-accepts-remorse-despite-attempts-blame-victims.html
It was an odd set-up. Mandy's mum, called Patsy, did marry Bill Wyman's son. They may well still be together. So the Smiths and Wymans are still in-laws. This could be a reason why the Smiths would not have wanted Bill Wyman criminally investigated/ prosecuted over his relationship with Mandy.
Both agreed not the police not naming a person till charged was not a problem. They pointed out it has been long standing practice for the police only to confirm the sex, age and location of a person arrested.
The former police officer in particular had strong views, pointing out sub juidice was from the point of arrest, as both The Sun and Daily Mirror learnt despite no charges being brought against Christopher Jeffries they were found guilty of contempt of court.
The crime reporter agreed with the former police officer that that it is impatience rather the right to know that drives the public and press to want to name an arrested person.