I have tried to find more information regarding the fact that Jimmy Savile sat on the Lord Longford's committee that produced a famous report on pornography in 1972.
Both he and Cliff Richard, along with Mary Whitehouse spent three months researching the impact of porn on society, including visits to sex shops and sex shows in Denmark.
Jimmy Savile's brother, who was the entertainments officer at Springfield hospital in Tooting when Jimmy was "honorary acting entertainments officer" at Broadmoor, was "forced to resign" in 1980 for gross misconduct (which was actually a criminal offence), after a hearing for unfair dismissal was apparently adjourned for an undisclosed reason. The female patient he "groped" was not his only victim, as a lot of people at the hospital were aware at the time. A woman he raped there in 1979 has reported this to the police inquiry into his brother's activites. Did Jimmy's fame protect him too. He was never prosecuted for anything either.
How do I know this? Because it was me who reported him.
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Thank you for that at least some people were trying to do something about this again I wonder why it wasn't pursued!
Lots of questions for lots of people in positions of power.
What is getting to me is everywhere you look, on TV, newpapers, websites is his ugly face leering at you.
Cant get away from him, disgusting excuse for a human being.
I kept one item from the "Swinging Sixties" a pair of Oliver Goldsmith sunglasses described as "iconic" on their website.
Watched a JS clip on youtube earlier and he's wearing the same model. No idea why, as they are women's glasses.I felt deflated to say the least.
Looking back now it was all 'hidden in plain sight' he double bluffed the public. I can't believe at least someone in his family weren't aware of this though.
Well, I'm sure his brother (the one who assaulted a patient in hospital) must have known. Their attacks on the vulnerable were carried out in the same way. Makes me wonder if the brother had assaulted more than one person before he was caught and if anyone else in the family was up to the same thing. Clearly, the brothers had some very weird character traits, so it's possible some of the other family members shared them.
I kept one item from the "Swinging Sixties" a pair of Oliver Goldsmith sunglasses described as "iconic" on their website.
Watched a JS clip on youtube earlier and he's wearing the same model. No idea why, as they are women's glasses.I felt deflated to say the least.
Dont let him spoil it for you, they are your memories and nothing to do with him.
Well, I'm sure his brother (the one who assaulted a patient in hospital) must have known. Their attacks on the vulnerable were carried out in the same way. Makes me wonder if the brother had assaulted more than one person before he was caught.
I have no doubt he was a serial offender too it seems.
When you look at the relationship that he had with his mother, which was bizarre, to say the least - and the fact that both he and his brother have gone on to be sex offenders, it does make you wonder what sort of household he grew up in
Jimmy Savile's brother, who was the entertainments officer at Springfield hospital in Tooting when Jimmy was "honorary acting entertainments officer" at Broadmoor, was "forced to resign" in 1980 for gross misconduct (which was actually a criminal offence), after a hearing for unfair dismissal was apparently adjourned for an undisclosed reason. The female patient he "groped" was not his only victim, as a lot of people at the hospital were aware at the time. A woman he raped there in 1979 has reported this to the police inquiry into his brother's activites. Did Jimmy's fame protect him too. He was never prosecuted for anything either.
How do I know this? Because it was me who reported him.
Hi and welcome Eleanor.
Not sure whether you were his victim or the whistleblower. I do hope the latter and well done whichever it was, I hope your life improved.
To have one perv among your seven kids is unlucky, to have two surely must throw suspicion on their upbringing.
I think it's clicked with you luckylegs, nothing to do with aphrodisiacs. Take away the "bearded" as only young and there you have it.
Vile by name, vile by nature was JS.
I have no doubt he was a serial offender too it seems.
Read my quoted post above by Eleanor_Murray
Oh God. Well, it's pretty obvious then that their upbringing played a huge part in how they developed emotionally. This has to be (in my own opinion) something their mother is responsible for, in that at least 2 of her children were unable to have normal relationships, and resorted to groping and grabbing those who couldn't fight back. I'm not saying that JS and his brother weren't aware that what they were doing was wrong, I'm just saying that they must have learnt this behaviour as they were growing up, and we learn how to behave from the people who are responsible for our emotional development, our parents. I'd like to know more about the other 5 children.
Hi and welcome Eleanor.
Not sure whether you were his victim or the whistleblower. I do hope the latter and well done whichever it was, I hope your life improved.
I don't think the fact that many people saw nothing wrong is all that relevant. Its like saying "I met Fred West and he didn't murder me so he can't be ALL bad" or "Harold Shipman lanced my boil and got my my prescription spot on, what the issue?"
When it all kicked off I was in the area and knew loads of people who knew fred very well. Some drank in the wellie others were on his stag do (Rose) he was really well known in the area.
Every one of them said Fred was a great bloke who would always help out anyone . not one had a bad word to say against him. (Rose was a different kettle of fish mind) ..
few if any are all bad and once you go down the 'pure evil' you lose a sense of balance.Like some here have long since....
He -if the allegations are proven- had a very distasteful side which is rightly condemned but either way you cut it he raised more money for charity than every single person reading this entire forum and site put together..
Perhaps posters should get off the keyboard and go out fund raising instead if they feel that strongly about this. That would be the best way of eradicating his memory
He -if the allegations are proven- had a very distasteful side which is rightly condemned but either way you cut it he raised more money for charity than every single person reading this entire forum and site put together..
That's true, but if his motive was to gain access to the vulnerable so he could abuse them - then the money he raised was tainted anyway. He obviously didn't raise it for selfless reasons, did he?
I think it's clicked with you luckylegs, nothing to do with aphrodisiacs. Take away the "bearded" as only young and there you have it.
Vile by name, vile by nature was JS.
Uh, hello. I said 'aphrodisiac' as a shortcut earlier, rather than going into the detail. I assumed (wrongly it seems now) that everyone knows the association between oysters and the female sex organs. 'Aphrodisiac' is exactly how he saw children. If you didn't pick up on my meaning, fine, but less of the 'not clicking with people' implying that some of us are slow on the uptake.
I actually watched the Newsnight segment that was aired this week. I don't often put much store in what Vanessa Feltz says, but she had an interesting point... that (certainly back in the day) if you were on the telly, there was this assumption from us poor schmucks watching that you were ever so nice.
She said that if someone in the street had come up to someone and said: "Let me take your (underage) daughter for a drive and I'll bring her back before teatime" they'd have lumped him one (I AM paraphrasing here!)... but because he was a "celebrity", people were prepared to believe he was a nice person.
What was more telling was the Mirror editor who (back in 1994-5) had interviewed two of the Dunstone girls who were terrified of having to provide sworn testimoney, and preferred to maybe be a catalyst - but on legal advice, there was no way to make it stick. He did actually say he felt guilty.
I have long since given up being shocked now as more and more comes out.
I realise that the police powers are little more than an investigative assessment but if it brings closure for the verified victims, then that is a good thing.
But more importantly, what we are seeing is the very organisations that Savile stated would suffer if allegations were taken further are now seeking to completely distance themselves from his name.
I just feel incredibly sad that people didn't call this man's bluff sooner... but we can't change that.
few if any are all bad and once you go down the 'pure evil' you lose a sense of balance.Like some here have long since....
He -if the allegations are proven- had a very distasteful side which is rightly condemned but either way you cut it he raised more money for charity than every single person reading this entire forum and site put together..
Perhaps posters should get off the keyboard and go out fund raising instead if they feel that strongly about this. That would be the best way of eradicating his memory
Really well if you think raising lots of money for charity - which I believe he did to gain access to the vulnerable and I expect those charities are now wringing their hands in woe and being a nice bloke in public and people having a few drinks with them and thinking he was okay is okay.
If you think you can dismiss all the people now coming out of the woodwork who clearly didn't think he was a nice person should keep schtum because they haven't raised any money for charity then I think you're on the wrong track.
If you think what he did if proved is only distasteful :rolleyes: rather than criminal then I think you're on the wrong track again.
Posters here are voicing their opinion they have a right to do that on their keyboards and you have no idea what those people do for charity or don't do.
Well, I'm sure his brother (the one who assaulted a patient in hospital) must have known. Their attacks on the vulnerable were carried out in the same way. Makes me wonder if the brother had assaulted more than one person before he was caught and if anyone else in the family was up to the same thing. Clearly, the brothers had some very weird character traits, so it's possible some of the other family members shared them.
His eldest brother Vince Savile (b.1916) was in the Navy, later a Royal Navy recruiting officer, radio DJ and hospital porter in Cardiff:
"5th May 1973 – Lord Watkins, Chairman of HMC, accepted gifts from the League of Friends. Mr Vince Saville, radio DJ was present and was thanked for his work and for being responsible for setting up the hospital radio service in Cardiff and Swansea. "
"I knew his late brother Vince well, he was a hospital porter in Cardiff and we drank in the same pub, met Jimmy a number of times, the last being at Vince's funeral"
"In the late 1960s the table organised a fundraising fete for charity in Caerphilly Castle, through Jimmy's brother Vince Savile, then the Royal Navy's recruiting officer in Cardiff. "
That's true, but if his motive was to gain access to the vulnerable so he could abuse them - then the money he raised was tainted anyway. He obviously didn't raise it for selfless reasons, did he?
Agreed I expect those charities are now wishing they'd never heard of him let alone have him in their midst or helping raise money.
I feel really bad for them because those charities are victims too victims of his sham and disgusting behaviour he basically took the piss out of everyone.
I have tried to find more information regarding the fact that Jimmy Savile sat on the Lord Longford's committee that produced a famous report on pornography in 1972.
Both he and Cliff Richard, along with Mary Whitehouse spent three months researching the impact of porn on society, including visits to sex shops and sex shows in Denmark.
I was one of his victims but not the same one who has just been mentioned in a new article on the front page of the Daily Mail on line, which says the hospital believes there was a criminal case against him in 1979, although apparently it isn't known if he was ever prosecuted. The hospital has been aware of my allegations for several years although they have never previously acknowledged that he ever raped anybody. I only reported him to the current inquiry after reading about his brother's activities at Broadmoor a couple of days ago. Perhaps the hospital will be prepared to believe me now. They have never shown the slightest concern or sympathy for any of his victims, as far as I know.
So it remains to be seen if my life will improve now. Just knowing he's finally been exposed has been very encouraging so far.
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Both he and Cliff Richard, along with Mary Whitehouse spent three months researching the impact of porn on society, including visits to sex shops and sex shows in Denmark.
http://www.alwynwturner.com/crisis/extracts08.html
A bit of a busman's holiday?:rolleyes:
It would be interesting to know what JS's contribution was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koueH9D04yg
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Thank you for that at least some people were trying to do something about this again I wonder why it wasn't pursued!
Lots of questions for lots of people in positions of power.
Watched a JS clip on youtube earlier and he's wearing the same model. No idea why, as they are women's glasses.I felt deflated to say the least.
Dont let him spoil it for you, they are your memories and nothing to do with him.
I have no doubt he was a serial offender too it seems.
Read my quoted post above by Eleanor_Murray
Eamonn had totally changed his mind on TM the other day.
Not sure whether you were his victim or the whistleblower. I do hope the latter and well done whichever it was, I hope your life improved.
To have one perv among your seven kids is unlucky, to have two surely must throw suspicion on their upbringing.
Vile by name, vile by nature was JS.
When it all kicked off I was in the area and knew loads of people who knew fred very well. Some drank in the wellie others were on his stag do (Rose) he was really well known in the area.
Every one of them said Fred was a great bloke who would always help out anyone . not one had a bad word to say against him. (Rose was a different kettle of fish mind) ..
few if any are all bad and once you go down the 'pure evil' you lose a sense of balance.Like some here have long since....
He -if the allegations are proven- had a very distasteful side which is rightly condemned but either way you cut it he raised more money for charity than every single person reading this entire forum and site put together..
Perhaps posters should get off the keyboard and go out fund raising instead if they feel that strongly about this. That would be the best way of eradicating his memory
Uh, hello. I said 'aphrodisiac' as a shortcut earlier, rather than going into the detail. I assumed (wrongly it seems now) that everyone knows the association between oysters and the female sex organs. 'Aphrodisiac' is exactly how he saw children. If you didn't pick up on my meaning, fine, but less of the 'not clicking with people' implying that some of us are slow on the uptake.
She said that if someone in the street had come up to someone and said: "Let me take your (underage) daughter for a drive and I'll bring her back before teatime" they'd have lumped him one (I AM paraphrasing here!)... but because he was a "celebrity", people were prepared to believe he was a nice person.
What was more telling was the Mirror editor who (back in 1994-5) had interviewed two of the Dunstone girls who were terrified of having to provide sworn testimoney, and preferred to maybe be a catalyst - but on legal advice, there was no way to make it stick. He did actually say he felt guilty.
I have long since given up being shocked now as more and more comes out.
I realise that the police powers are little more than an investigative assessment but if it brings closure for the verified victims, then that is a good thing.
But more importantly, what we are seeing is the very organisations that Savile stated would suffer if allegations were taken further are now seeking to completely distance themselves from his name.
I just feel incredibly sad that people didn't call this man's bluff sooner... but we can't change that.
Really well if you think raising lots of money for charity - which I believe he did to gain access to the vulnerable and I expect those charities are now wringing their hands in woe and being a nice bloke in public and people having a few drinks with them and thinking he was okay is okay.
If you think you can dismiss all the people now coming out of the woodwork who clearly didn't think he was a nice person should keep schtum because they haven't raised any money for charity then I think you're on the wrong track.
If you think what he did if proved is only distasteful :rolleyes: rather than criminal then I think you're on the wrong track again.
Posters here are voicing their opinion they have a right to do that on their keyboards and you have no idea what those people do for charity or don't do.
picture of Vince, Jimmy, and nephew
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/11/03/jimmy-savile-was-my-cheeky-uncle-jim-who-loved-the-rhondda-says-wales-raised-nephew-91466-29708515/
"5th May 1973 – Lord Watkins, Chairman of HMC, accepted gifts from the League of Friends. Mr Vince Saville, radio DJ was present and was thanked for his work and for being responsible for setting up the hospital radio service in Cardiff and Swansea. "
http://www.builthsurgery.co.uk/pages/builthhospital/centenary/league.htm
a DJ on Radio Wales
"I knew his late brother Vince well, he was a hospital porter in Cardiff and we drank in the same pub, met Jimmy a number of times, the last being at Vince's funeral"
http://www.arrse.co.uk/naafi-bar/171620-jimmy-savile-dead-4.html#post4031059
"In the late 1960s the table organised a fundraising fete for charity in Caerphilly Castle, through Jimmy's brother Vince Savile, then the Royal Navy's recruiting officer in Cardiff. "
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fond+memories+of+Sir+Jimmy%27s+visit.-a0271495377
"a Chief Petty Officer, serving with a “Commando” Helicopter Squadron of the Fleet Air Arm"
http://www.maxfarquar.com/2011/05/flick-colby-founder-of-pans-people-has-died/
Agreed I expect those charities are now wishing they'd never heard of him let alone have him in their midst or helping raise money.
I feel really bad for them because those charities are victims too victims of his sham and disgusting behaviour he basically took the piss out of everyone.
http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/bbc-jersey-impartial-balanced-honest.html?spref=tw
Funny how those 2 names come up again. :rolleyes:
Thanks to you both for the welcome.
I was one of his victims but not the same one who has just been mentioned in a new article on the front page of the Daily Mail on line, which says the hospital believes there was a criminal case against him in 1979, although apparently it isn't known if he was ever prosecuted. The hospital has been aware of my allegations for several years although they have never previously acknowledged that he ever raped anybody. I only reported him to the current inquiry after reading about his brother's activities at Broadmoor a couple of days ago. Perhaps the hospital will be prepared to believe me now. They have never shown the slightest concern or sympathy for any of his victims, as far as I know.
So it remains to be seen if my life will improve now. Just knowing he's finally been exposed has been very encouraging so far.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nhc3t/The_Andrew_Marr_Show_14_10_2012/