If you enjoyed Lilies, please go to the website and leave a comment. It is so sad that one of the best shows the BBC has ever produced is not being brought back.
That's just bloody typical of the BBC! A gem like this gets dropped and at the same time utter shite like Last of The Summer Wine goes on for ever!
The ironic thing about this is that if Lilies had been shown in the Sunday evening slot used by Last of the Summer Wine it would have had larger audiences.
Lillies Was the best thing on Telly in ages, its not often you get something that good especially on Friday night when the TV programmes have always been C**P. it would be so good if there was a second series, as long as they returned with all the same actors and characters.
DVD News
Good news. Acorn, the independent company involved with the production of Lilies, has indicated they will release a DVD on the 16th April 2007.
Has there been OFFICIAL word from the BBC about Lilies' chances for a second series? And does anyone know who you can write to, to find out this info (and then complain loudly, if necessary)? I can't believe I feel so irate about a TV show here, but Lilies was simply excellent and the story demanded a second airing. I need to know what happens to these characters, I really do!
If you enjoyed Lilies, please go to the website and leave a comment. It is so sad that one of the best shows the BBC has ever produced is not being brought back.
Is the 'right audience' Flett's extrapolation or the actual reason the BBC have given for canning Lilies? I am so insulted!! I'm certainly no old fogey if that's what's being inferred - I just like good, stirring drama, whatever the period or genre.
And what makes the old fogey brigade such a poor audience anyway? They do pay their license fees as well and are a large and affluent market. Even then, these considerations should be irrelevant to a public service broadcaster whose remit is to cater for ALL consumers and tastes. Securing a 'desirable' consumer audience should only be a worry for commercially-driven channels who need to lure advertisers.
This begs the question: just what does the BBC want to be - a cool, 'yoof' channel? a haven for formulaic mindless drivel? an unnecessarily commercially-driven broadcaster? Clearly yes.
In fact the BBC is missing a trick, because by developing a distinctive property like Lilies, they could be building an ongoing brand with a much wider fanbase than they reckon (judging by the range of programme supporters who have flooded the comments page on the Lilies web site) - plus, the overseas market would LOVE Lilies, with its BBC heritage drama credentials. BIG MISTAKE.
AND, Lilies is only a mid-range budget show, about £700k per episode which is good value in period drama.
I'm definitely going to email Peter Fincham - not that I think it'll make a difference, as they've clearly lost the plot, but I want my voice to be heard for once. Bar press queries, I've never bothered the BBC over anything as a consumer, but I feel strongly on this one.
Absolutely disgraceful decision! (Sorry to sound like Mrs Angry!)
One of the best dramas for a long time, canned after one series. Typical BBC - to bring back crap like My Hero/My Family, for series after series, and can the one decent drama we've had in ages.
Can't help feeling that it was in the wrong timeslot. If it had been on at say, 8.30 on a Sunday night, it would have got higher ratings. The performances were first class, especially the three unknown female leads, and Brian McCardie's performance as Dadda was especially outstanding - BAFTA material in my POV.
I'll be emailing Peter Fincham - can't see it doing any good, but it'll be good to make my voice heard.
Is the 'right audience' Flett's extrapolation or the actual reason the BBC have given for canning Lilies? I am so insulted!!
Yeah! Me too. I'm only 27! This is a drama for people of all ages. They just didn't give it a chance from the start by dropping it on Friday night.
Securing a 'desirable' consumer audience should only be a worry for commercially-driven channels who need to lure advertisers.
That is exactly what I was thinking. You would think the BBC would be proud of this show, especially when at a time when they are be criticised for too much fluff telly.
The performances were first class, especially the three unknown female leads, and Brian McCardie's performance as Dadda was especially outstanding - BAFTA material in my POV.
I couldn't agree more. Thanks to NewKidOntheBlok for the email address. Everyone get writing!
Yeah! Me too. I'm only 27! This is a drama for people of all ages. They just didn't give it a chance from the start by dropping it on Friday night.
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I noticed on Wikipedia today this bit of blurb:
'Lilies was one of the BBC's best performing new dramas in recent months, with figures building to 4.5 million. The AI scores were extremely high, rising to 88 for the final episode. Despite the show's enthusiastic following, the BBC decided not to commission a second series on the grounds that it did not appeal to younger audiences.' [my bold]
The BBC really is chasing that 'cool, yoof' market then, isn't it? And clearly they think all Lilies's viewers were stuffy old fogies who they couldn't give a toss about. Kind of rude really.
Not to mention stupid.
Looking at comments from Lilies fans on the BBC Lilies web site, they seem to represent a broad demographic, spanning many ages. Maybe the BBC execs couldn't 'pigeon-hole' the show? Fit it neatly into a particular generic category with a pre-ordained tightly targeted audience ... But then again, if it's good telly, who cares? It's not like the BBC has to package product for advertisers' consumption. They should welcome a wide range of viewers, not alienate them.
The BBC press office website offers a full list of personnel there and BBC emails work as above (mainly).
Thanks for that. Have e mailed them all and had a whinge. Also got off my chest the fact that Waterloo Rd and New Street Law seem to have been dropped this week as a result of football on Monday night. No problem with them showing the football but how the hell can a change of Monday's schedule impact on the rest of the week ?
I noticed on Wikipedia today this bit of blurb:
'Lilies was one of the BBC's best performing new dramas in recent months, with figures building to 4.5 million. The AI scores were extremely high, rising to 88 for the final episode. Despite the show's enthusiastic following, the BBC decided not to commission a second series on the grounds that it did not appeal to younger audiences.' [my bold]
The BBC really is chasing that 'cool, yoof' market then, isn't it? And clearly they think all Lilies's viewers were stuffy old fogies who they couldn't give a toss about. Kind of rude really.
If the BBC are justifying canning what was an excellent series with the justification that "it did not appeal to younger audiences" haven't they thought its because, at that time on a Friday night, the younger audience they so crave isn't actually watching tv? When I was in my late teens and early twenties, spending a Friday night in front of the tv would only happen when I'd run out of money!
I just don't understand their decisions. Especially as the article in the Radio Times when the programme started said that the set was designed to be a long term permanent one. Why spend the extra on a permanent set if they were going to take a decision like this in what appears to have been a slapdash way.
Comments
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/tv/2007/03/no_second_helpings_for_series.html
If you enjoyed Lilies, please go to the website and leave a comment. It is so sad that one of the best shows the BBC has ever produced is not being brought back.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/drama/lilies/comments_acs.shtml
DVD News
Good news. Acorn, the independent company involved with the production of Lilies, has indicated they will release a DVD on the 16th April 2007.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/tv/2007/03/no_second_helpings_for_series.html
If you are as angry as I am contact the controller of the Beeb directly
peter.fincham@bbc.co.uk
Just finished emailing....hope he doesn't get indigestion from it Monday morning.
(Actually I hope he does
Is the 'right audience' Flett's extrapolation or the actual reason the BBC have given for canning Lilies? I am so insulted!! I'm certainly no old fogey if that's what's being inferred - I just like good, stirring drama, whatever the period or genre.
And what makes the old fogey brigade such a poor audience anyway? They do pay their license fees as well and are a large and affluent market. Even then, these considerations should be irrelevant to a public service broadcaster whose remit is to cater for ALL consumers and tastes. Securing a 'desirable' consumer audience should only be a worry for commercially-driven channels who need to lure advertisers.
This begs the question: just what does the BBC want to be - a cool, 'yoof' channel? a haven for formulaic mindless drivel? an unnecessarily commercially-driven broadcaster? Clearly yes.
In fact the BBC is missing a trick, because by developing a distinctive property like Lilies, they could be building an ongoing brand with a much wider fanbase than they reckon (judging by the range of programme supporters who have flooded the comments page on the Lilies web site) - plus, the overseas market would LOVE Lilies, with its BBC heritage drama credentials. BIG MISTAKE.
AND, Lilies is only a mid-range budget show, about £700k per episode which is good value in period drama.
I'm definitely going to email Peter Fincham - not that I think it'll make a difference, as they've clearly lost the plot, but I want my voice to be heard for once. Bar press queries, I've never bothered the BBC over anything as a consumer, but I feel strongly on this one.
One of the best dramas for a long time, canned after one series. Typical BBC - to bring back crap like My Hero/My Family, for series after series, and can the one decent drama we've had in ages.
Can't help feeling that it was in the wrong timeslot. If it had been on at say, 8.30 on a Sunday night, it would have got higher ratings. The performances were first class, especially the three unknown female leads, and Brian McCardie's performance as Dadda was especially outstanding - BAFTA material in my POV.
I'll be emailing Peter Fincham - can't see it doing any good, but it'll be good to make my voice heard.
Yeah! Me too. I'm only 27! This is a drama for people of all ages. They just didn't give it a chance from the start by dropping it on Friday night.
That is exactly what I was thinking. You would think the BBC would be proud of this show, especially when at a time when they are be criticised for too much fluff telly.
I couldn't agree more. Thanks to NewKidOntheBlok for the email address. Everyone get writing!
does the beeb stand for lack of quality theese days ?
Yup!
Thanks NewKidOntheBlok - did it today!
I noticed on Wikipedia today this bit of blurb:
'Lilies was one of the BBC's best performing new dramas in recent months, with figures building to 4.5 million. The AI scores were extremely high, rising to 88 for the final episode. Despite the show's enthusiastic following, the BBC decided not to commission a second series on the grounds that it did not appeal to younger audiences.' [my bold]
The BBC really is chasing that 'cool, yoof' market then, isn't it? And clearly they think all Lilies's viewers were stuffy old fogies who they couldn't give a toss about. Kind of rude really.
Not to mention stupid.
Looking at comments from Lilies fans on the BBC Lilies web site, they seem to represent a broad demographic, spanning many ages. Maybe the BBC execs couldn't 'pigeon-hole' the show? Fit it neatly into a particular generic category with a pre-ordained tightly targeted audience ... But then again, if it's good telly, who cares? It's not like the BBC has to package product for advertisers' consumption. They should welcome a wide range of viewers, not alienate them.
jane.tranter@bbc.co.uk
julie.gardner@bbc.co.uk
patrick.spence@bbc.co.uk
george.dixon@bbc.co.uk
The BBC press office website offers a full list of personnel there and BBC emails work as above (mainly).
Thanks for that. Have e mailed them all and had a whinge. Also got off my chest the fact that Waterloo Rd and New Street Law seem to have been dropped this week as a result of football on Monday night. No problem with them showing the football but how the hell can a change of Monday's schedule impact on the rest of the week ?
Even ITV dont pull that one !!
We should post any responses here in the unlikely event that we get them.
If the BBC are justifying canning what was an excellent series with the justification that "it did not appeal to younger audiences" haven't they thought its because, at that time on a Friday night, the younger audience they so crave isn't actually watching tv? When I was in my late teens and early twenties, spending a Friday night in front of the tv would only happen when I'd run out of money!
I've voiced my opinion on the website.
Can people power get a second series?
Tc