Wagner NEEDS to win!
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If Wagner wins, Simon will be forced to invest his money and back a spectacular commercial failure.
That'll teach him for fixing the show and treating the audience like idiots!
Plus Wagner will get a few more minutes of fame, everyones a winner but Cowell!
That'll teach him for fixing the show and treating the audience like idiots!
Plus Wagner will get a few more minutes of fame, everyones a winner but Cowell!
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I refuse to vote only because I have more sense anyway, but if I were to vote... it would surely go to Wagner.
And him performing on the Top Of The Pop Christmas Special.
It would have such an impact on the mood of the country, that the economy would recover a full year faster than it would otherwise. Meaning less cuts in public services.
Save nurses, vote Wagner.
Whilst he meanwhile gives a contract to 2nd place - hevily promotes and works with them and gets his money back that way.
People are stupid if they believe Simon is worried about a Wagner win
How does that differ from most winners?
Yes, like Wagner said we must pray for their souls.
A lot have come round after last night though, and as Wagner continues to swing the sword of truth around the X-Factor studio with such bloody efficiency there will be more moments like Cheryl's where people lash out at his Holyness in vain.
They will end up smashed to pieces on the Rock Of Wagner, while we lay on the sandy beaches of the promised land. Basking in his winner's performance.
I reckon he's a Wagner fan tbh.
Hear hear.
It isnt.
Which kind of negates your argument that wagner winning would affect Cowell in any way.
It wouldnt.
Indeed, as I said in another thread, he would use it to counter the claims of fix, the tabloids would have a field day with the inane rantings of the facebook campaigns and paint them as 'spoiling' the show (I dont beleive that, but its the image that will be presented, and there is enough material to make them look unhinged), and Cowell and X factor will march on, as unaffected as it was when Leon won, with the protest voters money in his back pocket.
Vote for wagner if you actually like him, voting for anyone to make a point is futile, because it doesnt.
I can see the "treating the audience like idiots" part, but how has he fixed the show?
The narrative of X-Factor is manipulated with all the skill of a surgeon wearing boxing gloves.
I'm sure there's a contract somewhere that states Simon has first choice to sign up any of the live show acts if he so desires.
If Wagner wins, sure he'll sign him up and a novelty album will be made. And it will sell for a while.
But he'll also put the more serious cash behind the runner-up or whichever artist he really wants. Wagner will then be quietly dropped after a year.
Either way, Simon wins.
Cowell gets his winner each year and then makes an absolute fortune from their first Number One. Then the album comes out, and the same idiots buy that. The act then generally disappears until the show is back on the tellybox, then he targets the same people again, whilst developing his next moneyspinner.
Do you really think that those people supporting Wagner would waste their money buying the rubbish that would be released if he won?
Not a hope... and there lies the argument.
Cowell will make very little from the single/album should Wagner win, and it would lower the value of the show as a whole.
no one makes a fortune from a single's sales these days.
I would take a guess that with 6 million votes in the final alone, never mind the previous 8 weeks, Cowell has earned more from the votes that made Joe the winner than sales of his music.
If that's the case, why don't we all love Katie?
Because a surgeon wearing boxing gloves kills his patient
500k at 3.99 you sure? and thats first week alone votes are only 35p so they'd need 10 million to get 3 million and not all of it goes to them.
Is this the grand 'achievement' that the Wagner voters are after? What you're actually saying is that the people voting for Wagner want the show finished. Why don't they just watch something else?
6 million votes at 10p profit to them is £600,000. Cowell spends that on one private jet flight.
It's a protest vote for many reasons hes the perfect man to do it. X factor IMO destroys music to a certain extent. I think they overkill makeup costumes and manufactur raw talented people. And now this year they have fixed the show in so many aspects. This is not the essence of what it was created for. Wagner winning would change this idea they can get away with doing this time and time again.
What about the talented people on the show that want to do singing as a profession? When they have actual talent while Wagner has nothing? Think about it in that way.
Simon wins at the end of the day anyway. The money goes to him. This show isn't supposed to be about people "showing Simon Cowell **** all" it's about people's future.