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PRS licence - is there a loophole?
vesey
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hi all,
my work have just received a letter saying we need a PRS licence to have our radio on. its gonna cost us about £300 and there is no way my boss will pay that in the current climate!
is there any loopholes?? or is that it, I have to work in silence from now on?
the music industry stinks! :mad::mad::mad:
my work have just received a letter saying we need a PRS licence to have our radio on. its gonna cost us about £300 and there is no way my boss will pay that in the current climate!
is there any loopholes?? or is that it, I have to work in silence from now on?
the music industry stinks! :mad::mad::mad:
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Headphones and personal radios.
You see, its this stinking disgusting behaviour, where the radio stations have already paid to broadcast this content, that makes me feel sick.
The music industry is killing itself and it doesn't even realise it.
I hope piracy kills off this greed
http://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/listen/at_work.html?utm_source=left_nav
Workplaces are being harassed and threatened for fees, and now music videos are blocked in the UK on Youtube.. where will it end?
People who have the radio on in the garage or whatever when working in the garden will probably be next since people walking past might hear it - PRS better get on the case! :rolleyes:
They aren't doing themselves any favours in the long term as the public will just end up turning against them with the letters/phonecalls to offices demanding payment and current Youtube situation.
I'm with "stateofgameplay"- by all means charge a PRS fee if you're playing CDs publicly, but why are we paying twice? What's the difference between 100 people listening to 100 radios (no PRS) and 100 people listening to 1 radio (PRS due)?
99 radios.
Artists like Robbie Williams, Amy Winehouse etc have enough money, they should feel proud that radio stations want to play their music and people want to listen!
It's just the kick in the teeth Great British industry needs in these troubled economic times - Not!
I'm thinking of starting a humble internet radio station with not more than 25 computers / wi-fi radios able to listen concurrently. I'll need to fork out at least around £300 a year in licenses just for sharing some of my CD collection (which I've already legally bought) with a couple of people.
I think it's crazy that shops, garages etc are charged for music while you work when the radio stations have already paid PRS and PPL. It's not as if the workers and customers have their Grundig Tape Recorders at the ready to get a cr*p recording of Robbie or Amy when there's P2P and the man in the pub with his plastic bag full of pirate CDs!
I'm not a smoker but it's rather like me paying 6 pounds for 20 cigarettes - smoking them outside my office and the Government charging passers by for secondary smoking!
Steady on... that'll never happen.
Ignore the letter and tell them you don't have a radio when they phone up (which they did at our office 2-3 times within a week). After this they will probably go away.
Umm... a "driving licence"?
Sources: http://www.prsformusic.com/playingbroadcastingonline/music_for_businesses/Pages/FAQ.aspx#4 & http://www.ipo.gov.uk/consult-musiclicensing-summary.pdf
Indeed, TalkSPORT and LBC may be troublesome in the fact that if any commercials contain any musical segments in it that requires a royalty payment, then you'll be stuck. I would guess that the same could apply to any musical piece or segment used in any BBC news content or documentary. Basically, I fear the PRS has stuffed any way of playing talk radio unless they reject the playing of any music requiring royalty payments, particularly troublesome for commercial stations.
:mad:
http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/radio/workersplaytime.htm
storys like this one http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7029892.stm dont really persuade my boss to ignore the letter
the court is corrupt and the judge is guilty of sanctioned extortion. what we need is a big firm to fight this. someone who will not stand up to to bullying and highway robbery
It does, doesn't it? The radio station is broadcasting and the bloke in the office is listening, but in PRS's view they are both putting on a performance. Which is, despite the many arguments to the contrary, contrary.
I tell you what is silly. That the PRS have seen fit to demand youtube pays all that money for giving all those artists free promotion and exposure on their hugely popular site. Well now there will no more of that and the music industry will suffer even more in this climate. Its bad enough as it is - people can't effort to buy music in this depression, now the PRS have cut off their nose to spite not only their face but the whole music industry.
As for demanding employers pay for radios at work they are hurting the radio stations that will lose audience and the stations have already paid their PRS on the music they play. What more do the PRS want, blood?? No business is going to pay that in this climate especially, they will just ban radios at work! But these idiots don't live in the real world just like a lot of people these days, this government especially.
I think the PRS should be abolished, no wonder everybody is doing things illegally, the model is unfair and unworkable.
Yes... even if you are listening to music channels... you have to pay prs.
Also, the PRS and PPL are separate organiations and represent different areas of the music industry... SO, strictly speaking even if you pay your PRS, the PPL can come round to your workplace and say 'you need a ppl licence as well as a prs licence'
basically even if you have a PRS licence you are STILL breaking the law as you dont have a PPL licence its absolutely crazy!