I saw a trailer for this on Good Morning Britain today. Possibly the worst case of computerised "wobble cam" I've ever seen. Looked like a slow motion earthquake was in progress. Is Ripper Street always like this?
Could it possibly be more blatant with this nod at current affairs with this presentation of 'Muslims in Britain and a disgruntled home-grown working class'?
I noticed they spelled it Moslem not Muslim. What's the difference?
Fizzbin is right, you could possibly skip Series 2 plot-wise but you'd miss out on some of the best performances that these actors have given so far.
I'm thinking especially of Jerome Flynn (Bennet Drake) and wouldn't be surprised that the viewers' outrage aimed at the BBC for trying to ditch Ripper was mostly down to his monumental performance in Series 2.
You'd also miss the fab Damien Molony as Albert Flight
I noticed they spelled it Moslem not Muslim. What's the difference?
According to some (many?) Islamic scholars the difference is described as follows:-
A Muslim in Arabic means"one who gives himself to God," and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means"one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z. - See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/524#sthash.nywP7TAd.dpuf
I heard them say at the beginning that it contained "scenes of a sexual nature" but I never saw any. Can't have been very long as I only nipped in the kitchen for some beer
I heard them say at the beginning that it contained "scenes of a sexual nature" but I never saw any. Can't have been very long as I only nipped in the kitchen for some beer
You obviously missed the scene where Mathilda and her school friend were peeping through a brothel window, watching a punter giving one of the 'ladies' some oral satisfaction!
I haven't got round to watching Series 2 onwards, all still sitting on the hard drive.
As it looks like there isn't much on, on Mondays, is it sensible to watch Series Four if you've only seen Series One. Have the characters moved on too much?
I would think it essential to watch ALL the seasons in order to get a real feel as to what makes the lead players tick. However, if you're pushed for time, I strongly recommend you see Series 3, otherwise you won't understand what's going on now. I've been watching them all so far and even I was struggling to remember how some of the characters came to be where they are.
More whispered lines.
I don't know a single person who always talks in a whisper.
Aren't actors trained to use their full voice like normal people?
NB Moslem is the old-fashioned way of saying/spelling Muslim.
I agree, some of the lines were slightly lost, but I soldiered on without the subtitles, in the hope that it would improve .. which for the most part it did.
A BBC editor has spoken on the subject in the past, maintaining that they watch edited programmes on a domestic TV in a domestic setting, before finally deciding whether the sound mix is acceptable. I know this is sometimes hard to believe! These days I have my TV sound set up at nearly maximum treble and about a quarter bass, which seems to help quite a lot.
I agree, some of the lines were slightly lost, but I soldiered on without the subtitles, in the hope that it would improve .. which for the most part it did.
A BBC editor has spoken on the subject in the past, maintaining that they watch edited programmes on a domestic TV in a domestic setting, before finally deciding whether the sound mix is acceptable. I know this is sometimes hard to believe! These days I have my TV sound set up at nearly maximum treble and about a quarter bass, which seems to help quite a lot.
It was only with some dialogue from Captain Jackson that I felt were slightly inaudible. I could hear the rest of it quite fine (with the volume turned up just a little more than usual).
I loved the first episode of the series. I thought the subject matter being a little near knuclke, but hey ho let's see where it goes. I was so delighted when I saw Reid dusting off his bowler hat!! Following Matilda's comments, I can see then heading back to London pretty soon. Roll on next episode. ;-)
Also, there's speculation that the main baddie from S02 will be back for S05.
Plus the Elephant Man is in series 2!
I always wondered why they never, ever, mention Albert Flight in subsequent series. After all his story was quite gripping and we never saw the resolution. The inspector baddie I could do without!
Could it possibly be more blatant with this nod at current affairs with this presentation of 'Muslims in Britain and a disgruntled home-grown working class'?
I found its preachiness nauseating. Typical BBC. They did it with Musketeers too. I turned it off and have no intention of watching any more.
It was only with some dialogue from Captain Jackson that I felt were slightly inaudible. I could hear the rest of it quite fine (with the volume turned up just a little more than usual).
I loved the first episode of the series. I thought the subject matter being a little near knuclke, but hey ho let's see where it goes. I was so delighted when I saw Reid dusting off his bowler hat!! Following Matilda's comments, I can see then heading back to London pretty soon. Roll on next episode. ;-)
Four series in and I haven't understood a single word he's ever said! But Reid is no problem with MM's perfect enunciation.
I'm convinced there must be actor school somewhere where blokes are trained to mumble words inaudibly from the back of their throat in a way that nobody does in real life!
I found its preachiness nauseating. Typical BBC. They did it with Musketeers too. I turned it off and have no intention of watching any more.
Not commissioned by the BBC anymore. I didn't find it preachy, though admittedly the religious overtones may grate a little by the end of the series depending on how it pans out.
Four series in and I haven't understood a single word he's ever said! But Reid is no problem with MM's perfect enunciation.
I'm convinced there must be actor school somewhere where blokes are trained to mumble words inaudibly from the back of their throat in a way that nobody does in real life!
Not commissioned by the BBC anymore. I didn't find it preachy, though admittedly the religious overtones may grate a little by the end of the series depending on how it pans out.
Good to have it back!
Anything with Religious overtones grate with me thereby ruling out a lot in the media.
Anything with Religious overtones grate with me thereby ruling out a lot in the media.
So you can't watch any historical programme then, or read any historical novels, or any films which have a good v evil component, or anything with a Norse god in it or any of the characters have any belief system.
Visiting art galleries and museums must be out of the question. Cathedrals I won't even mention.
So you can't watch any historical programme then, or read any historical novels, or any films which have a good v evil component, or anything with a Norse god in it or any of the characters have any belief system.
Visiting art galleries and museums must be out of the question. Cathedrals I won't even mention.
What a limited range of possibilities you have.
No my comments were directed at discussions really rather than the odd religious connections in plays but to me religion is and has been and always will be the source of problems in this world and I'm an atheist anyway.
No my comments were directed at discussions really rather than the odd religious connections in plays but to me religion is and has been and always will be the source of problems in this world and I'm an atheist anyway.
I think crime is a source of many problems, but oddly enough I quite like watching programmes or reading about it.
I'm convinced there must be actor school somewhere where blokes are trained to mumble words inaudibly from the back of their throat in a way that nobody does in real life!
Well, that's the end of the first two-parter in the new series. Very enjoyable but I must confess to not really knowing what was going on a lot of the time!
The whole thing with Reid and Isaac Bloom was baffling, probably because I couldn't recall how it went at the end of series 3.
Then there was the whole thing with the Indian major Al Qadir and his son, who was taken by special branch, beaten up and handed back to Drake. What and why?
And finally, there was Abel Croker (fantastic performance as ever from David Threlfall) who seemed to be the one to mete out rough justice to one of the dockside workers who, if I understood correctly, had been embezzling funds intended for the poor out of work people.
Never mind though, at least Long Susan was saved, although I've a hunch we won't actually be seeing her again!
Have not really enjoyed this 2 parter i had no idea what was going on most of the time aned found it boring, aside from the performances of our 3 leads.
I wanted Susan to actually hang, she killed 53 people, and shot Reid in the head! She isn't a hero, and i'm not sure why she is portrayed as such.
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I noticed they spelled it Moslem not Muslim. What's the difference?
I don't know a single person who always talks in a whisper.
Aren't actors trained to use their full voice like normal people?
NB Moslem is the old-fashioned way of saying/spelling Muslim.
You'd also miss the fab Damien Molony as Albert Flight
You obviously missed the scene where Mathilda and her school friend were peeping through a brothel window, watching a punter giving one of the 'ladies' some oral satisfaction!
Actually the BBC were promoting it quite hard, otherwise how would I have known it was coming back?
I would think it essential to watch ALL the seasons in order to get a real feel as to what makes the lead players tick. However, if you're pushed for time, I strongly recommend you see Series 3, otherwise you won't understand what's going on now. I've been watching them all so far and even I was struggling to remember how some of the characters came to be where they are.
I agree, some of the lines were slightly lost, but I soldiered on without the subtitles, in the hope that it would improve .. which for the most part it did.
A BBC editor has spoken on the subject in the past, maintaining that they watch edited programmes on a domestic TV in a domestic setting, before finally deciding whether the sound mix is acceptable. I know this is sometimes hard to believe! These days I have my TV sound set up at nearly maximum treble and about a quarter bass, which seems to help quite a lot.
It was only with some dialogue from Captain Jackson that I felt were slightly inaudible. I could hear the rest of it quite fine (with the volume turned up just a little more than usual).
I loved the first episode of the series. I thought the subject matter being a little near knuclke, but hey ho let's see where it goes. I was so delighted when I saw Reid dusting off his bowler hat!! Following Matilda's comments, I can see then heading back to London pretty soon. Roll on next episode. ;-)
Mohammedanism was by far the most widely-used term for the faith of Islam at that time.
I always wondered why they never, ever, mention Albert Flight in subsequent series. After all his story was quite gripping and we never saw the resolution. The inspector baddie I could do without!
We don't yet know. Next week should reveal all.
I found its preachiness nauseating. Typical BBC. They did it with Musketeers too. I turned it off and have no intention of watching any more.
I didn't notice any preachiness.
Yes, that's what I thought, too.
Brilliant programme, and the beginning of a gripping story, imo.
Four series in and I haven't understood a single word he's ever said! But Reid is no problem with MM's perfect enunciation.
I'm convinced there must be actor school somewhere where blokes are trained to mumble words inaudibly from the back of their throat in a way that nobody does in real life!
Not commissioned by the BBC anymore. I didn't find it preachy, though admittedly the religious overtones may grate a little by the end of the series depending on how it pans out.
Good to have it back!
Anything with Religious overtones grate with me thereby ruling out a lot in the media.
So you can't watch any historical programme then, or read any historical novels, or any films which have a good v evil component, or anything with a Norse god in it or any of the characters have any belief system.
Visiting art galleries and museums must be out of the question. Cathedrals I won't even mention.
What a limited range of possibilities you have.
No my comments were directed at discussions really rather than the odd religious connections in plays but to me religion is and has been and always will be the source of problems in this world and I'm an atheist anyway.
I think crime is a source of many problems, but oddly enough I quite like watching programmes or reading about it.
The whole thing with Reid and Isaac Bloom was baffling, probably because I couldn't recall how it went at the end of series 3.
Then there was the whole thing with the Indian major Al Qadir and his son, who was taken by special branch, beaten up and handed back to Drake. What and why?
And finally, there was Abel Croker (fantastic performance as ever from David Threlfall) who seemed to be the one to mete out rough justice to one of the dockside workers who, if I understood correctly, had been embezzling funds intended for the poor out of work people.
Never mind though, at least Long Susan was saved, although I've a hunch we won't actually be seeing her again!
I wanted Susan to actually hang, she killed 53 people, and shot Reid in the head! She isn't a hero, and i'm not sure why she is portrayed as such.