His fans don't appear to think his show losing half it's viewers by the end of it's run is funny. Then again, the fact that they don't kinda makes it even funnier for everyone else. Which is nice.
His fans don't appear to think his show losing half it's viewers by the end of it's run is funny. Then again, the fact that they don't kinda makes it even funnier for everyone else. Which is nice.
Ok i am a fan and YES i know it lost viewers it still does not mean that i did not find a lot that was funny in it because i did, not asking you to agree you seem to be content to keep parotting on about his fans do not get it well yes i do thanks very much.
You are obviously not a fan why do you feel the need to keep posting in the thread i wonder other then to annoy.
Why is it funny that a show lost some viewers? I couldn't give a stuff what other people want to watch!
Like, some people buy the Daily Mail. They're idiots! But I just let them get on with it.
Anyway, I enjoyed this series- eps 3,4, and 5 were my favourites- had me laughing my little stripy socks off!
And before anyone accuses me of being a 'fan'- I'm no knee-jerk defender of the man. I just like what he does, and he's very good at it, which is a kind of cathartic bloodletting of some of the worst aspects of humanity through humour. Personally, I think he's a very moral person, but his comic persona is very much amoral, or even intentionally immoral.
You are obviously not a fan why do you feel the need to keep posting in the thread i wonder other then to annoy.
It's not annoying me, people can post whatever they like you're not a moderator, suck it up. And I do find it funny that his attempts to drum up viewers through controversy has backfired so spectacularly. Then again I don't find naming and picking on a disabled kid on national telly particularly funny.
One minute the fans are saying people complaining and being offended is what Boyle wants because it all adds to the publicity and attracts viewers, the next they're saying stop complaining because he's lost half his audience as a result of all the hoohah. You guys really need to get your story straight.
He was quite vocal about the show not coming back before the first episode even aired, so I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that he was expecting to have a massive hit on his hands.
He was quite vocal about the show not coming back before the first episode even aired, so I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that he was expecting to have a massive hit on his hands.
Probably because most people could see through the 'it will be pulled after the first episode' speech as a transparent attempt to drum up some publicity, i.e. billing it as 'too hot for TV' and 'watch it while you can!' 'I'm the most dangerous man on television. Pedophile! Rape! There, that shocked you didn't it!' etc.
I fail to believe that someone who's so desperate to court controversy at every turn wasn't hoping for a ton of attention from this. Unfortunately for him the show has mostly been met with yawns and disappointment.
Anyone remember a sketch Adam & Joe did about 10 years ago, 'Media Chaos Collective' I think it was called? This reminds me of an unironic version of that.
The adverse publicity didn't attract an audience, it turned it off.
I was thinking more of the ones who buy tickets for his shows and his DVDs. It's obviously a small group from the viewing figures but if only a proportion of that figure buy a DVD then it is quite lucrative.
How is mocking the disabled - in any context - funny?
When they deserve it? They aren't all saints, you know.
Another answer is when it's actually mocking the people who feel weird around disabled people by saying what they are thinking. Another is when the mocking includes wit or insight.
Frankie didn't always achieve any of these goals, but that doesn't make the disabled into sacred cows.
Probably because most people could see through the 'it will be pulled after the first episode' speech as a transparent attempt to drum up some publicity, i.e. billing it as 'too hot for TV' and 'watch it while you can!'
Dara tweeted that Frankie had made a lot of the jokes on Mock the Week, but the editor cut them out. Knowing it had been censored before, Frankie could have reasonably thought it might be censored again, whatever C4 had told him. For all we know, some of his material may have been cut even from TN.
Arguably some of what was broadcast should have been cut. Not much, just a line or two from each episode. Much of the outrage is focussed on a tiny part of the show.
It's not annoying me, people can post whatever they like you're not a moderator, suck it up. And I do find it funny that his attempts to drum up viewers through controversy has backfired so spectacularly. Then again I don't find naming and picking on a disabled kid on national telly particularly funny.
No i am not a moderator but am free to post my view that if you do not like the show why keep posting in a thread about it continually ,or do you have to be a moderator to do that.:D
Yes okay i agree about the disabled kid but have to admit the mother usues him as a prop to earn cash through magazines i find that equally offensive i am afraid.
Why accuse somebody of not being a "moderator " by the way i have never seeked to stop anybody posting as if i could.I just question why they would repeatedly if they hated the subject of the thread simples really.
Dara tweeted that Frankie had made a lot of the jokes on Mock the Week, but the editor cut them out. Knowing it had been censored before, Frankie could have reasonably thought it might be censored again, whatever C4 had told him. For all we know, some of his material may have been cut even from TN.
Arguably some of what was broadcast should have been cut. Not much, just a line or two from each episode. Much of the outrage is focussed on a tiny part of the show.
Why should they be cut? They only cause outrage in the eyes of Daily Mail readers. Since when did comedy start having limits?
He was quite vocal about the show not coming back before the first episode even aired, so I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that he was expecting to have a massive hit on his hands.
Hasn't he said that his current tour is his last ever? If so, then whatever the format of his next TV venture, it'll certainly be different from TN.
Why should they be cut? They only cause outrage in the eyes of Daily Mail readers. Since when did comedy start having limits?
Comedy has always had limits. Perhaps you haven't found yours yet. It's not only Daily Mail readers who thought the show crossed a line.
The joke I think should have been cut was the one about Jordan marrying a cage fighter because she needed someone strong enough to stop her disabled son, Harvey, from raping her. I think it should have been cut because: (a) It made no sense. I have no idea where the connection between Harvey and rape comes from. (b) It's not funny. It has no wit or insight. (c) It implies a connection between autism and moral degeneracy, which is in bad taste. (d) It attacks, by name, an 8-year-old boy who is blameless, and who has not chosen to live in the public eye. (It wouldn't bother me what he said about Jordan herself.)
So the show would have been better if that line had been cut. Leaving it in caused much of the rest of the episode to be eclipsed.
I'd guess the complaints will be upheld, but channel 4 won't get fined. The culture secretary complained personally and I can't see ofcom wanting to cross him in times of massive government cutbacks.
Comedy has always had limits. Perhaps you haven't found yours yet. It's not only Daily Mail readers who thought the show crossed a line.
Why is it always "Daily Mail readers", I am sure people who object to the programme read a whole range of papers even if the ones who like it are mainly Daily Star readers. :=)
Why is it always "Daily Mail readers", I am sure people who object to the programme read a whole range of papers even if the ones who like it are mainly Daily Star readers. :=)
I hate the Daily Star but like Frankie Boyle.
I actually read the idependant.:D
Yes you are right we read a whole range of papers.:)
No problem. You are suggesting that people are naturally racist. Exhibit 'A', m'laud:
Your words. Furthermore, people are not 'naturally racist' and by believing so, you are a moron. Instead of trying to act so high and mighty, why don't you climb down off your little soap box and explain why you have formed such a ludicrous and absurd opinion?
Then send me your lawsuit. I must make you aware though, I'll deal with it in the manner it warrants. :rolleyes:
You don't need to suggest that I believe that people are naturally racist as I have clearly stated this.
As you seem incapable of asking your questions in a proper manner, they will remain unanswered.
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His fans don't appear to think his show losing half it's viewers by the end of it's run is funny. Then again, the fact that they don't kinda makes it even funnier for everyone else. Which is nice.
Ok i am a fan and YES i know it lost viewers it still does not mean that i did not find a lot that was funny in it because i did, not asking you to agree you seem to be content to keep parotting on about his fans do not get it well yes i do thanks very much.
You are obviously not a fan why do you feel the need to keep posting in the thread i wonder other then to annoy.
Like, some people buy the Daily Mail. They're idiots! But I just let them get on with it.
Anyway, I enjoyed this series- eps 3,4, and 5 were my favourites- had me laughing my little stripy socks off!
And before anyone accuses me of being a 'fan'- I'm no knee-jerk defender of the man. I just like what he does, and he's very good at it, which is a kind of cathartic bloodletting of some of the worst aspects of humanity through humour. Personally, I think he's a very moral person, but his comic persona is very much amoral, or even intentionally immoral.
Lots of people up in arms about him.
Boyle being controversial surely not!
Personally I don't care I like his humour.
As always if you don't like him don't watch him.
I dodn't like Roy Chubby Brown's humour but he hasa massive following & always sells very well when he does shows in my city.
So stop complaining.
It's not annoying me, people can post whatever they like you're not a moderator, suck it up. And I do find it funny that his attempts to drum up viewers through controversy has backfired so spectacularly. Then again I don't find naming and picking on a disabled kid on national telly particularly funny.
Probably because most people could see through the 'it will be pulled after the first episode' speech as a transparent attempt to drum up some publicity, i.e. billing it as 'too hot for TV' and 'watch it while you can!' 'I'm the most dangerous man on television. Pedophile! Rape! There, that shocked you didn't it!' etc.
I fail to believe that someone who's so desperate to court controversy at every turn wasn't hoping for a ton of attention from this. Unfortunately for him the show has mostly been met with yawns and disappointment.
Anyone remember a sketch Adam & Joe did about 10 years ago, 'Media Chaos Collective' I think it was called? This reminds me of an unironic version of that.
I was thinking more of the ones who buy tickets for his shows and his DVDs. It's obviously a small group from the viewing figures but if only a proportion of that figure buy a DVD then it is quite lucrative.
When they deserve it? They aren't all saints, you know.
Another answer is when it's actually mocking the people who feel weird around disabled people by saying what they are thinking. Another is when the mocking includes wit or insight.
Frankie didn't always achieve any of these goals, but that doesn't make the disabled into sacred cows.
Dara tweeted that Frankie had made a lot of the jokes on Mock the Week, but the editor cut them out. Knowing it had been censored before, Frankie could have reasonably thought it might be censored again, whatever C4 had told him. For all we know, some of his material may have been cut even from TN.
Arguably some of what was broadcast should have been cut. Not much, just a line or two from each episode. Much of the outrage is focussed on a tiny part of the show.
No i am not a moderator but am free to post my view that if you do not like the show why keep posting in a thread about it continually ,or do you have to be a moderator to do that.:D
Yes okay i agree about the disabled kid but have to admit the mother usues him as a prop to earn cash through magazines i find that equally offensive i am afraid.
Why accuse somebody of not being a "moderator " by the way i have never seeked to stop anybody posting as if i could.I just question why they would repeatedly if they hated the subject of the thread simples really.
probably because this isn't the frankie boyle appreciation thread, which has actually died on its arse after two pages due to lack of interest.
I agree.:D Thanks for your challenging opinion.;)
Why should they be cut? They only cause outrage in the eyes of Daily Mail readers. Since when did comedy start having limits?
Hasn't he said that his current tour is his last ever? If so, then whatever the format of his next TV venture, it'll certainly be different from TN.
On national public service tv channels? Probably only since the year dot.
The joke I think should have been cut was the one about Jordan marrying a cage fighter because she needed someone strong enough to stop her disabled son, Harvey, from raping her. I think it should have been cut because: (a) It made no sense. I have no idea where the connection between Harvey and rape comes from. (b) It's not funny. It has no wit or insight. (c) It implies a connection between autism and moral degeneracy, which is in bad taste. (d) It attacks, by name, an 8-year-old boy who is blameless, and who has not chosen to live in the public eye. (It wouldn't bother me what he said about Jordan herself.)
So the show would have been better if that line had been cut. Leaving it in caused much of the rest of the episode to be eclipsed.
It'll be interesting to see what Ofcom rule.
I'd guess the complaints will be upheld, but channel 4 won't get fined. The culture secretary complained personally and I can't see ofcom wanting to cross him in times of massive government cutbacks.
Why is it always "Daily Mail readers", I am sure people who object to the programme read a whole range of papers even if the ones who like it are mainly Daily Star readers. :=)
I hate the Daily Star but like Frankie Boyle.
I actually read the idependant.:D
Yes you are right we read a whole range of papers.:)
You don't need to suggest that I believe that people are naturally racist as I have clearly stated this.
As you seem incapable of asking your questions in a proper manner, they will remain unanswered.