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River Song's identity: A theory
Wryip
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I don't know whether this has been mentioned before (apologies if it has), but does anyone think River Song could be the Doctor's Daughter?
Having rewatched the Series 5 finale, it got me wondering how could someone without a timelord's DNA fly the Tardis? We know the Master did in Series 3, but that is about it. I think for River Song to be the Doctor's wife is too restrictive for a series based on mystery, but what if River Song was Jenny. We know that the character was to be killed off at the end of the Doctor's Daughter but wasn't at Moffat's request, yet she hasn't been seen since. Why? It would also explain why she can fly the Tardis.
Also the good man River supposedly kills, does anyone think it will be Rory?
Having rewatched the Series 5 finale, it got me wondering how could someone without a timelord's DNA fly the Tardis? We know the Master did in Series 3, but that is about it. I think for River Song to be the Doctor's wife is too restrictive for a series based on mystery, but what if River Song was Jenny. We know that the character was to be killed off at the end of the Doctor's Daughter but wasn't at Moffat's request, yet she hasn't been seen since. Why? It would also explain why she can fly the Tardis.
Also the good man River supposedly kills, does anyone think it will be Rory?
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Moffat merely suggested they don't kill Jenny. But that was it, he didn't request she stay alive, he just suggested she could survive the shooting.
Dialogue between River and The Doctor, suggests something intimate, not necessarily his wife, but she clearly knows his real name and when Doc 11 said 'River I could Bloody kiss you' she replied 'Maybe when you're older'. Would his daughter say that? Perhaps misdirection by River?
As for the Master flying the Tardis. Well he has Time Lord DNA as he was resurrected on Gallifrey. River flying the Tardis, she says she was taught. This implies you do not need Time Lord DNA to do so. Other companions have shown the ability to control the Tardis in the past.
As for the good man she kills. Rory dying again would be the biggest let down in the history of Who. But it being the Doctor she kills would also be a let down unless there is a great big twist. They can easily have her kill the Doctor, but for the Doctor to continue. If the Doctor now has unlimited regenerations there is no reason that River doesn't kill Doc 800. We are never going to see it.
Personally I think River is somehow linked to the Time Lords. Trained by them and sent on a mission by the Time Lords during the Time War to execute The Doctor to prevent the destruction of Gallifrey. However, by the time she kills him the Time Lords no longer exist and she is imprisoned because nobody believes her. A bit of a crude description, but something along those lines.
Other companions have flown the TARDIS without the Doctor being inside.
As to who River is, she won't be the Doctors Daughter.
The Doctors wife is too obvious (she may be but there's more to her than that). Amy's Daughter is a possibility but her being an Avatar of the TARDIS is my current guess (probably change in the future).
Make a note of the time and date. I don't want anyone else pinching my idea and saying it was theirs, I know what you lot are like
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Though the theory falls down at the thought of
I quite like this theory, she certainly displays a lot of Jack's personality traits.
LOL. I'd actualy forgotten about the
Maybe when she said a good man she actually meant to say...
Wasn't the phrase
Unless they've been fobwatched.
The fobwatch thing has happened only twice in 48 years, but in fact, Time Lords have been shown not to recognize each other before. If they were automatically able to recognize each other, the Master's various not so cunning disguises in the old series would never have worked, but they frequently did.
^ That isn't a bad idea actually, the Doctor has been teased a few times about his love for the tardis - Rose and Sarah Jane in School Reunion so there might be a link.
I wouldn't mind finding out if she's bigger on the inside.
That's my latest theory although it'll probably change come next week!
She called the Doctor a good man to many, but the phrase about whom she killed was:
One more thing. About only a Timelord being able to pilot a TARDIS... Not three episodes (or is it two?) before tha Alliance declare it as fact, we have Amy flying the TARDIS on her own. In Journeys Ebd, evryone in the TARDIS pilots it. Every companion in New Who has flown the TARDIS! Sometimes I wonder if people pay attention! (Can't do smileys on this phone, so imagine a roll eyes and a laugh) It's quite clear that The Alliance were led to believe this by whomsoever wanted to explode the TARDIS. I can't be the only one to have noticed these things... (again, imagine a laughing smiley)
With regards to River, I've long held an idea that she'll be something to do with the return of the Time Lords and Gallifrey. Back in Silence in the Library just after Miss Evangelista is eaten the Doctor asks whats in her diary. When she replies "Spoilers" he asks her just who she is. She says "Professor River Song. University of..." and then the Doctor cuts in saying "To me. Who are you to me?" My first instinct made me think that this was important and that was why it was cut short so as not to give us too much information too early and believe it to be the University of Gallifrey. I still believe it will be important, whether its Gallifrey or somewhere else however, I don't know.
Crap disguises and a low level perception filter.
For some reason, the idea of retconning new series ideas (particularly ones as overused as the perception filter) into old series stories really irritates me. The Master is a genius. I'm sure he has more than just the one gimmick up his sleeve.
Controversial I know!:D
I was joking. I agree with you, I think trying to adjust any inconsistencies between the old series and new is frankly unnecessary. I've never let them bother me as DW has always focussed on current stories, regardless as to whether they fit perfectly with previous ones.
I agree with that and hope it is the case.