[Gunner DL]

Originally Posted by MsWilder11

It's Leanne's attitude that doesn't fit. The BIB is exactly how it should've been done. Rather than her just totally turning against Karl and everyone involved with him, she should've grudgingly accepted the Stella/Karl reunion and just kept a close eye on him. Her reasoning is flawed and although she's right not to trust him, she's just being written horribly so it's hard to support her. It reminds me of how Tina was in the Tirrone/Kirsty SL; she was right, but she came across so unsympathetically that hardly anyone sided with her.

Tonight was a perfect example. Refusing to go to the (potential) wedding and then refusing to even serve them drinks because she didn't want to be involved in any of it. It's just a bit too much.

While I think some of her behaviour does fit with her character (i.e. you're either on my side or not), it's just too much. I did feel there was a sign of a bit more balance in last week's eps when she had that very normal and civil conversation with Gary, and she did show sympathy towards Stella until they argued. I wonder if part of it does feed into a deepening sense of general mistrust that has been building up over the last few years. Which will just be made all the worse when of course, she thought that she really could trust Nick.

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It's going to get worse when David wants to do a gene test on the baby to check it hasn't inherited his epilepsy!

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Oh, the old 'medical tests' nugget, eh? I wonder how many scares they can conjure up before the truth is revealed...

BIB - That's classic soap foreshadowing! Characters always come out with lines like that when they've got impending doom hanging over them. Karl did it tonight with "From now on, things are going to get better".

It was indeed, which really makes me feel like Leanne and Nick are probably dead in the water.

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I read that David asks Nick and Leanne to be the baby's guardians should anything happen to him and Kylie. As much as that's awkward for Nick, I feel worse for Leanne. Yet again she's going to be involved with somebody else's baby rather than her own. It's like she's being taunted.

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Something else that ramps up the ante of the secret. I do think that such a move is an important consideration and it makes sense for David to want it, though.

I've got a feeling that either the baby stuff or Karl will be the Christmas SL (although my timings could be way off).

Or both...just imagine!

Originally Posted by k9fan

Leanne's reply that she was busy reminded me of Peter Cook:
“Oh, hang on, I’ll just check my diary,” “On dear, I find I’m watching television that night.”

Heh. It did make me chuckle a bit that she was just so forthright and determined to be against it, but at the same time, I hope she softens in time. Unlikely, though, as I just think she has to be against Karl until the awful truth comes out.

Originally Posted by smashbox

Do you see Leanne and Nick lasting the baby reveal? If not what storylines would you like to see for her in the future?

From what has been on screen so far, I'd say no. It seems to me that the writers are much more invested in David and Kylie's marriage and all the little hints seem to suggest they may not get through it.

I just want her to be happy and chill out a bit.

[MsWilder11]

Originally Posted by smashbox

Do you see Leanne and Nick lasting the baby reveal? If not what storylines would you like to see for her in the future?

No. I'll be hugely surprised if they manage to survive. As Gunner says, Kylie and David seem to be the couple that Corrie wants to keep together. Blackburn even said that in an interview; Kylie and David were a great young couple and he really loves their relationship. This makes me think that the baby will be David's, but the ONS will come out regardless and that's where the drama will lie. Leanne and Nick have never really been stable from the beginning. Plus, it's a baby SL and babies are a painful subject for Leanne. She could probably forgive the ONS, but not the potential baby.

I think (if the split does happen) Leanne needs time on her own - no going back to Peter!!

I wouldn't object to seeing her in the Rovers with the Price gals. She really needs proper solid interaction with them.

Originally Posted by Gunner DL

While I think some of her behaviour does fit with her character (i.e. you're either on my side or not), it's just too much. I did feel there was a sign of a bit more balance in last week's eps when she had that very normal and civil conversation with Gary, and she did show sympathy towards Stella until they argued. I wonder if part of it does feed into a deepening sense of general mistrust that has been building up over the last few years. Which will just be made all the worse when of course, she thought that she really could trust Nick

I can't quite put my finger on what they're trying to do with her. I know they need Karl to have a foil - and the twist is that the foil is family (sort of) - but it's like Jekyll/Hyde with Leanne. One minute you see this flash of sympathy and understanding, then after a small spat she's militantly on the warpath. There's no happy medium with her and there should be. I know she's probably jaded by what happened with P&C, but that could only really work if she had a clean track record herself. I know what JD said about Leanne and forgiveness; and as much as it's accurate, it seems the portrayal of this trait is damaging Leanne. Viewers should be on her side, but they're not because she's so rabid.
If she calmed down a bit and discussed her feelings about Karl rationally - maybe to Jason - then maybe it'd come across better.

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Something else that ramps up the ante of the secret. I do think that such a move is an important consideration and it makes sense for David to want it, though.

I haven't seen much interaction between David and Leanne, so I think it's nice that he chooses to do this. I'm, at least, assuming that him and Leanne get on - despite her turbulent relationship with Kylie.

I just want her to be happy and chill out a bit.

Amen to that!!

[Gunner DL]

Originally Posted by MsWilder11

Leanne and Nick have never really been stable from the beginning. Plus, it's a baby SL and babies are a painful subject for Leanne. She could probably forgive the ONS, but not the potential baby.

Yep, you're quite right that they really didn't start on the strongest footing.

I think (if the split does happen) Leanne needs time on her own - no going back to Peter!!

I wouldn't object to seeing her in the Rovers with the Price gals. She really needs proper solid interaction with them.

BIB: Shall we ask Rob to add up the odds on this? In all seriousness, though, after the fallout, I just can't see that Leanne could realistically trust anyone. Let alone Peter...For me, she would definitely need time on her own.
I did see a bit on the Corrie website, I think, where Ben Price suggested (nothing concrete, though...) that Peter could become a 'wedge' between Nick and Leanne if they have issues.

I can't quite put my finger on what they're trying to do with her. I know they need Karl to have a foil - and the twist is that the foil is family (sort of) - but it's like Jekyll/Hyde with Leanne. One minute you see this flash of sympathy and understanding, then after a small spat she's militantly on the warpath. There's no happy medium with her and there should be. I know she's probably jaded by what happened with P&C, but that could only really work if she had a clean track record herself. I know what JD said about Leanne and forgiveness; and as much as it's accurate, it seems the portrayal of this trait is damaging Leanne. Viewers should be on her side, but they're not because she's so rabid.
If she calmed down a bit and discussed her feelings about Karl rationally - maybe to Jason - then maybe it'd come across better.

I did think it was nice that we had that little bit where Leanne was on the phone to Simon and she told him she loved him...clearly there's no problem there. With Nick, we only really see them together at work. I think she expects his unconditional support, which isn't always going to work if he doesn't agree with her m.o.

I think with the Karl issue, her heart's in the right place, she just seems to be going about trying to help with a sledgehammer rather than a subtle approach. I know that some people are better with the sledgehammer approach, but Stella's clearly not one of them – especially where the heart is concerned.

I haven't seen much interaction between David and Leanne, so I think it's nice that he chooses to do this. I'm, at least, assuming that him and Leanne get on - despite her turbulent relationship with Kylie.

I saw on Twitter that one of the directors was enjoying the David/Leanne/Nick content that he had seen in the script.

Amen to that!!

Yes, indeed.

Happy Friday all, and good luck to Palace tonight, k9.

[k9fan]

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[Gunner DL]

I was watching the match, but it's been turned over now.

During tonight's episodes I finally figured out the root of Leanne's discontent:

If I had to listen to that fecking muzak in the bistro all day, I'd be practically on the edge of murder...

And secondly, Karl deserves to have a vendetta against him purely for that awful vest he wears at the breakfast table. It's definitely enough to put anyone off their corn flakes!

Topsy-turvy episode again. I thought it might have been a turning point and that Leanne might have been showing signs of softening in general, just for Stella's sake...Again, perfectly normal and reasonable concern at David's condition juxtaposed with her feelings that Stella wasn't being genuine about wanting to clean for a living.

That said, it is annoying that Karl doesn't seem too bothered about getting a job, when the income might help with the mess that he actually created. Not that any of the characters (except him) know that.

[MsWilder11]

Originally Posted by Gunner DL

I did see a bit on the Corrie website, I think, where Ben Price suggested (nothing concrete, though...) that Peter could become a 'wedge' between Nick and Leanne if they have issues

I think that as long as Peter and Leanne are both on the Street, there's always going to be a possibility of them being on/off. They're never going to be a closed book. I just hope if/when N&L split, it won't go down that predictable route

I did think it was nice that we had that little bit where Leanne was on the phone to Simon and she told him she loved him...clearly there's no problem there. With Nick, we only really see them together at work. I think she expects his unconditional support, which isn't always going to work if he doesn't agree with her m.o.

BIB - I thought that too. It was actually refreshing to hear Nick disagreeing with her for once. Usually he's 'Yes Leanne. No Leanne. Three bags full Leanne.' I'd probably think a lot more of him if he stood up to Leanne once in a while.

I think with the Karl issue, her heart's in the right place, she just seems to be going about trying to help with a sledgehammer rather than a subtle approach. I know that some people are better with the sledgehammer approach, but Stella's clearly not one of them – especially where the heart is concerned.

I know what you mean. Leanne probably sees it all as tough love. It's quite hard to watch though because by being so militant, she's getting the total opposite result to what she wants.

I saw on Twitter that one of the directors was enjoying the David/Leanne/Nick content that he had seen in the script.

That sounds promising!

Originally Posted by Gunner DL

During tonight's episodes I finally figured out the root of Leanne's discontent:

If I had to listen to that fecking muzak in the bistro all day, I'd be practically on the edge of murder...

And secondly, Karl deserves to have a vendetta against him purely for that awful vest he wears at the breakfast table. It's definitely enough to put anyone off their corn flakes!

Bahaha! Makes sense. We only ever see her in the Bistro and she's always angry there! I bet at home (wherever that set may be) it's a total different story!

BIB - LOL!!!!!!

Topsy-turvy episode again. I thought it might have been a turning point and that Leanne might have been showing signs of softening in general, just for Stella's sake...Again, perfectly normal and reasonable concern at David's condition juxtaposed with her feelings that Stella wasn't being genuine about wanting to clean for a living.

That said, it is annoying that Karl doesn't seem too bothered about getting a job, when the income might help with the mess that he actually created. Not that any of the characters (except him) know that.

Yeah, I actually thought she may have relented about helping Stella out when they were at the Bistro, but then she immediately froze over and accused Stella of guilt-tripping. Argh. That being said, I saw on the itv website that

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Gail gleefully lords it over Stella with the cleaning and Leanne begins to feel sorry for her. So maybe she will relent eventually.

That being said, my theory is that Gloria is secretly loaded and probably has the cash to sort everything out.

Happy Friday all!

[MarleyB]

Jane is a good actress, but over the years Leanne's lost her way a little me thinks

[madaboutcarla]

Originally Posted by MarleyB

Jane is a good actress, but over the years Leanne's lost her way a little me thinks

Thanks to the flaming writers! They annoy me as they are ruining characters who shouldn't be ruined!

But I must say, I am enjoying Leanne atm, it's nice to see her in her own, separate storyline!

[k9fan]

I read that Eva has a go at Leanne for not giving Stella the money that she asked for - why should Leanne?! Stella left her to Les's care when Leanne was a toddler and has had no contact since, until recently when she turned up out of the blue seemingly expecting to be accepted just like that; end of storyline without any more exploration of the early years of Leanne's life. Why should she have to accept this ready-made family just like that? Bloomin' cheek IMO. Anyway, I think that Gloria's confession soon may be interesting.

[smashbox]

Leanne was dead right not to give Stella that money, sure she already owed Owen 15 grand at that point and it's not like another 5 grand would have been enough and it was 20 grand that Leanne had.

[AndreaMC]

You're right Smashbox, it was bad enough when you consider that Leanne would have been giving over her money to someone who had a known gambler as a husband. A man who wouldn't hesitate to rip of his own wife. But as well as that Stella herself seems to be pretty flakey in many ways, who changes her mind from one day to the next. She can't even make up her mind about what bloke she wants to be with so how can she be expected to be sensible over what she would do with money. I wouldn't have even considered lending it to her tbh. And if Stella really was the caring mum she lets on to be she wouldn't have suggested taking money from Leanne in the first place. I personally wish they hadn't started the whole Stella as Leanne's mum business in the first place.It hasn't done Leanne any favours because it's simply not believable on so many levels. Also I think Leanne is compromised by appearing to be trying to be liked (YES,it's true) by Stella and its not allowing her to be herself. Hopefully things will go back to normal one day.

[k9fan]

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[k9fan]

Originally Posted by k9fan

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[Gunner DL]

Congratulations, k9! Great win, I was so pleased. I had no idea that Palace v Brighton was a derby, though! You learn something new every day!

With last night's episode, I felt that everything in the bistro was being served up with a massive side of awkward. I wonder if there will be some more near misses, because Leanne was definitely a bit concerned about Nick's behaviour. Not massively, but if he carries on and presumably the lie might continue to get more difficult, she might actually start to become a bit suspicious.

Loved her facial expression at David asking them to be guardians, but it was nice to see that David thought so highly of her.

[smashbox]

Stella really annoyed me last night. I don't see why she thinks Leanne should give her all that money when it probably isn't enough in the first place? I mean what was she going to do when she needed more to finnish the pub, ask her for another loan? Fit her better to take her frustration out on that lazy lump Karl. She's just getting on my nerves. Thought her and Gail were hilarious though. Leanne was in quite a good mood though, usually she'd have bit back at Kyle and Stella.

[k9fan]

Originally Posted by Gunner DL

Congratulations, k9! Great win, I was so pleased. I had no idea that Palace v Brighton was a derby, though! You learn something new every day!

With last night's episode, I felt that everything in the bistro was being served up with a massive side of awkward. I wonder if there will be some more near misses, because Leanne was definitely a bit concerned about Nick's behaviour. Not massively, but if he carries on and presumably the lie might continue to get more difficult, she might actually start to become a bit suspicious.

Loved her facial expression at David asking them to be guardians, but it was nice to see that David thought so highly of her.

Thank you. I had no time to watch television yesterday, my priority had to be Palace! I had not, to he honest, expected us to win and, as Zaha had only scored one goal (I think) since January, it was a wonderful evening!

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[MsWilder11]

Looked on the main forum and apparently....

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They've already filmed the baby reveal

Bang goes the Christmas theory! I'm guessing that'll be reserved for Karl

Hope everyone is good

[k9fan]

Originally Posted by MsWilder11

Looked on the main forum and apparently....

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They've already filmed the baby reveal

Bang goes the Christmas theory! I'm guessing that'll be reserved for Karl

Hope everyone is good