BBC Sport - What is the point ?

WhoAteMeDinnerWhoAteMeDinner Posts: 4,612
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In the last few weeks, BBC Sport has lost the rights to Football League highlights and the Open Golf. From 2022, Discovery / Eurosport are the primary rights holder of the Olympic Summer games. BBC may get some but certainly not all broadcast rights sub-contracted by Discovery.

All they have left are very short duration annual sports events; Six Nations (half of games shared with ITV) and Wimbledon fortnight (which BT Sport are sniffing around).
Throw in the occasional athletics coverage and a rugby league game here and there and that is pretty much it.

The question is if the BBC is "cash flat" for the next decade, which to me sounds like a 20% real terms cut in income, should BBC Sport be closed, and all sports coverage outsourced to independent production, as Channel 4 has always done ?

The saving would have to be more than a hundred million pounds, given the droves of Sports hacks they have all over radio and TV platforms, talking about stuff they can't show any footage of, it is quite pathetic now. The regular news readers could simply give the sports results as happens on Radio 4 now.
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  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    IThe saving would have to be more than a hundred million pounds, given the droves of Sports hacks they have all over radio and TV platforms, talking about stuff they can't show any footage of,

    So

    a) That saving is a guess

    b) The BBC should not even report or discuss sports news now?
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    I must admit the BBC Sportscentre in Salford does appear to have a large number of staff, most of whom sound like refugees from local radio, and economies could be made there.
  • ATNottsATNotts Posts: 1,238
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    ftv wrote: »
    I must admit the BBC Sportscentre in Salford does appear to have a large number of staff, most of whom sound like refugees from local radio, and economies could be made there.

    To read some comments here you would get the impression that the only good broadcasters originate in London!

    However, addressing the second point; of course the Sportcentre is overstaffed - the BBC is a publicly owned organisation, and as such has no idea of how to run a business leanly. The same can be said for the ridiculously overstaffed front of camera weather presenting team, which could be halved in size - but that's for another thread.
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    I certainly agree with you about the weather presenters - when the new contractor takes over I suspect we will see a dramatic reduction in that department.
  • singhss1singhss1 Posts: 2,243
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    ftv wrote: »
    I must admit the BBC Sportscentre in Salford does appear to have a large number of staff, most of whom sound like refugees from local radio, and economies could be made there.

    A bit racist don't you think?
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    singhss1 wrote: »
    A bit racist don't you think?

    Racist ?
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,981
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    When did the weather forecasters become part of the sports departments?

    Looks like the usual British obsession for a whinge.

    In response to the subject of the thread, snooker and darts I believe are already produced by independent production companies.
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    No mention then of ITV losing the FA Cup and Champions League ?

    Haven't the BBC just signed new contracts with the rugby league and rugby union ?
    The Wimbledon contract runs to 2017 and looks like being renewed
    Then we have the next Euros and World Cup
    Commonwealth Games

    Yes the cupboard is bare.....
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 302
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    I think you're all forgetting about snooker, bowls and BDO darts... and quite rightly so ;)
  • WhoAteMeDinnerWhoAteMeDinner Posts: 4,612
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    Yes I deliberately omitted the "sports" that can be played in a cardigan.

    And btw, I have no Sky or BT subscriptions, so my beef with the BBC is purely an attempt to save them money, and the events that are on every two or four years hardly need a full-time sports department to cover them.
  • howard hhoward h Posts: 23,369
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    Trouble is, they show a lot more sport than people think...they hide it behind the red button and in many instances, if you are watching any of the HD channels on freview what's on the red button doesn't show up.
    If the BBC knows what it's going to show live they should make more of an effort to tell people what's on.
    Dunno how...maybe an annoying ticker in the middle of EE explaining "in 1 minute you can watch the European naked mud wrestling championships on the red button"?

    Genuine sports *hidden* recently =
    Triathlon
    Rowing
    Eurohockey
    Swimming/diving
  • JordyDJordyD Posts: 4,007
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    Im all for BBC retaining sports rights, (IMO they should have the all the major sports rights for the nation), but I think overall, sport is oversaturated on TV. There is far too much sport on TV.
  • DragonQDragonQ Posts: 4,807
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    Match of the Day alone is worth keeping BBC Sport for. Their online presence is important too.
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,981
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    Yes I deliberately omitted the "sports" that can be played in a cardigan.

    And btw, I have no Sky or BT subscriptions, so my beef with the BBC is purely an attempt to save them money, and the events that are on every two or four years hardly need a full-time sports department to cover them.

    Do you have a UK TV Licence though?
  • howard hhoward h Posts: 23,369
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    JordyD wrote: »
    Im all for BBC retaining sports rights, (IMO they should have the all the major sports rights for the nation), but I think overall, sport is oversaturated on TV. There is far too much sport on TV.

    Outside Premier football, sport is a cheap way of filling hours of the day, and I'm surprised there's not more of it.
    If we are forced to buy the licence then the BBC must provide sport for those of us not bothered with it's normal cooking/baking/antique dealing (etc etc) output >:(
  • niceguy1966niceguy1966 Posts: 29,560
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    howard h wrote: »
    Trouble is, they show a lot more sport than people think...they hide it behind the red button and in many instances, if you are watching any of the HD channels on freview what's on the red button doesn't show up.
    If the BBC knows what it's going to show live they should make more of an effort to tell people what's on.
    Dunno how...maybe an annoying ticker in the middle of EE explaining "in 1 minute you can watch the European naked mud wrestling championships on the red button"?

    Genuine sports *hidden* recently =
    Triathlon
    Rowing
    Eurohockey
    Swimming/diving

    There's a fair amount of equestrian coverage on the Red Button too.
  • i4ui4u Posts: 54,981
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    howard h wrote: »
    Outside Premier football, sport is a cheap way of filling hours of the day, and I'm surprised there's not more of it.
    If we are forced to buy the licence then the BBC must provide sport for those of us not bothered with it's normal cooking/baking/antique dealing (etc etc) output >:(

    Why do you focus on what you don't like as if that's all that is available?

    Last weekend there was an abundance of sport on the BBC.... World Championship Athletics, Rugby League, Women's Football, Premier League Highlights, European Hockey and that's pretty much normal for most weekends.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Yes I deliberately omitted the "sports" that can be played in a cardigan.

    And btw, I have no Sky or BT subscriptions, so my beef with the BBC is purely an attempt to save them money, and the events that are on every two or four years hardly need a full-time sports department to cover them.

    So they should cover (i.e. report on) no other events then?
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    The BBC could save an awful lot of money by not covering any news or sport at all but unfortunately it is their charter that they must show news.And if you look at the ratings the vast majority of viewers prefer BBC News over ITV.
  • ClarkF1ClarkF1 Posts: 6,587
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    Not forgetting the F1 coverage at which they have a presence for the whole season but only show half the races live.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    And not forgetting that the sports department provides sports news across all events & sports for both TV and radio, whether the BBC has a contract or not.
  • Darren LethemDarren Lethem Posts: 61,674
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    Why do ITV no longer show the Olympics ? Because the BBC do it so much better and win hands down.

    As a rugby league fan too I am delighted the BBC have kept the Challenge Cup for 4 more seasons too
  • batdude_uk1batdude_uk1 Posts: 78,722
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    The women's world cup was covered very well by the BBC, and I hope that continues for the next edition.
  • ClarkF1ClarkF1 Posts: 6,587
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    Don't forget the whole radio side of things too.

    Cricket, Hockey, Football, Rugby, Formula 1
  • Nova21Nova21 Posts: 14,005
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    singhss1 wrote: »
    A bit racist don't you think?


    Hahaha.... What??
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