He broke his marriage vows which he took in front of a priest and if he believes, in the eyes of his god. The woman is a good time girl who slept with a man she knew full well was married. They are as bad as each other.
Again I return to my point you shouldn't need to know someone to have a conscience about how you might hurt them. Jenny had no conscience and neither did Rooney.
I didn't say it was worse, I said it was as bad. Sleeping with anyone when you know they're married or sleeping with someone and breaking your own marriage vows is bad - do you understand that concept?
Yes I do understand the concept and to be quite frank I think you're trivialising marriage. When you get married to someone, you promise them, you swear to them, you make a vow that's only supposed to be made once and never broken that they are the only person that you will EVER sleep with, that you will take care of them, stay with them no matter what and not break that vow and it's not supposed to be taken lightly or broken lightly.
I don't think what she did was good or right or that she wasn't partly to blame but HE is the one who has responsibilities to his family, HE is the one who made a solemn vow not to do this, HE is the one who fathered her child and HE is the one who is supposed to love and protect Colleen. What the hooker did was horrible but she didn't have a family or child to protect, she didn't leave a trail of broken promises or lie to Colleen about where she'd been and what she'd been doing and who she was with and betray her trust (she was a stranger, Collen didn't know her to trust).
If it hadn't been her it would have been another hooker but he would still have done it and he would still have been the one breaking his promises.
Yes I do understand the concept and to be quite frank I think you're trivialising marriage. When you get married to someone, you promise them, you swear to them, you make a vow that's only supposed to be made once and never broken that they are the only person that you will EVER sleep with, that you will take care of them, stay with them no matter what and not break that vow and it's not supposed to be taken lightly or broken lightly.
I don't think what she did was good or right or that she wasn't partly to blame but HE is the one who has responsibilities to his family, HE is the one who made a solemn vow not to do this, HE is the one who fathered her child and HE is the one who is supposed to love and protect Colleen. What the hooker did was horrible but she didn't have a family or child to protect, she didn't leave a trail of broken promises or lie to Colleen about where she'd been and what she'd been doing and who she was with and betray her trust (she was a stranger, Collen didn't know her to trust).
If it hadn't been her it would have been another hooker but he would still have done it and he would still have been the one breaking his promises.
I've been over and over this till I'm blue in the face, and I don't
intend to defend myself to you yet again.
Please don't presume to teach me about marriage. I've been married probably longer than you've been alive, and had a faithful bloke and been faithful in return. . :rolleyes:
Best not to teach your granny to suck eggs (or anything else) eh?
I've been over and over this till I'm blue in the face,and don't
intend to defend myself to you yet again.
I'm sorry. You posted last, I haven't been on since then and I replied. Do you have some sort of special forum licence to argue and not have people argue back. That's a discussion. It's a discussion forum. If you don't like it don't post.
Please don't presume to teach me about marriage. I've been married probably longer that you've been alive, and had a faithful bloke and been faithful in return. . :rolleyes:
Best not to teach your granny to suck eggs (or anything else) eh?
Possibly not a great idea for you to post that either especially when you're having a hissy fit about 'presumption' because I've been married rather a long time myself.
That's my opinion, I'm entitled to argue back to you if you continue to make the same point and put snotty little comments in about 'not being able to comprehend' purely because someone disagrees with you.
Again, as I said, if you're not able to have a debate and accept that someone has a different point of view from you without having a hissy fit and getting personal perhaps you might think about whether or not a discussion forum is the right place for you.
Thanks. What a skank. Since she was providing a service, shouldn't there be some sort of client/prostitue privilege like how doctors can't divulge medical histories on people? If prostitutes want the right to provide a service then they should be held to some sort of confidential responsiblity like other professions.
I'll support that idea the day prostitution is legalised.
Until then, sex workers can do whatever they think is best for themselves, especially when their profession constantly expose them to potential and real dangers (rape, unexpected acts of physical violence, abuse and murder) and health risks.
I'll support that idea the day prostitution is legalised.
Until then, sex workers can do whatever they think is best for themselves, especially when their profession constantly expose them to potential and real dangers (rape, unexpected acts of physical violence, abuse and murder) and health risks.
It is legal but it's a very grey area and I don't totally understand it. From what I gather (but feel free to correct me anyone who knows what they're talking about) it's legal to charge for sex if you do it in your own residence. There are very strict rules about advertising and you cannot run or advertise a brothel. You also cannot have paid sex in a hotel. You cannot curb crawl or solicit on the streets.
If the bit in bold is true, then surely when Jenny told the News of the World about Wayne paying her for sex in a hotel, she can get done for breaking the law
It is legal but it's a very grey area and I don't totally understand it. From what I gather (but feel free to correct me anyone who knows what they're talking about) it's legal to charge for sex if you do it in your own residence. There are very strict rules about advertising and you cannot run or advertise a brothel. You also cannot have paid sex in a hotel. You cannot curb crawl or solicit on the streets.
If the bit in bold is true, then surely when Jenny told the News of the World about Wayne paying her for sex in a hotel, she can get done for breaking the law
In addition, it is specifically illegal to own or run a 'disorderly house' or brothel - anywhere more than one woman or man resorts to for non-marital sex. As this doesn't necessarily have to be at the same time, or involve sexual intercouse or, indeed, any payment, a very wide range of places are therefore 'brothels', including many hotels. (Remember that it's legal to be a sex worker at a brothel provided you don't assist in its management.)
I doubt if anyone's tried to take this to court though as there must be thousands of prostitute duos plying their trade in hotels all over the UK every day.
I doubt if anyone's tried to take this to court though as there must be thousands of prostitute duos plying their trade in hotels all over the UK every day.
Another law that I'm not too sure of (I could have picked it up from the movies lol) is that you are not supposed to profit from a crime. Therefore, if having paid sex in a hotel is a crime, then profiting from it by selling the story would also be a crime. How I would love it if the police actually charged her on both accounts but I can't see that happening
It is legal but it's a very grey area and I don't totally understand it. From what I gather (but feel free to correct me anyone who knows what they're talking about) it's legal to charge for sex if you do it in your own residence. There are very strict rules about advertising and you cannot run or advertise a brothel. You also cannot have paid sex in a hotel. You cannot curb crawl or solicit on the streets.
You interpreted it correctly and you were right to call me on my oversight. What I should have said is "prostitution is fully legalised".
About my previous response, I was referring to proper brothels with good protection and full access to health care and regular medical check-ups as well as some legal rights of their own. Exposing their own homes to strangers is the stupidest and most dangerous. It's the English law that enabling this idiotic scenario. Erm. I'd better shut up.
My dad is a legal advocate with a certain annual percentage of free legal services, which all go to sex workers in need of legal help. This is how I know a bit about their reality, more than I should know.
Incidentally there are many sex workers who refuse to reveal information about their clients, which gives my dad a massive headache when he's trying to help them. Not all are like some who would spill beans for cash.
If the bit in bold is true, then surely when Jenny told the News of the World about Wayne paying her for sex in a hotel, she can get done for breaking the law
I wouldn't be surprised if the police decides to question her. They did so in the past with the others who made similar claims.
About my previous response, I was referring to proper brothels with good protection and full access to health care and regular medical check-ups as well as some legal rights of their own. Exposing their own homes to strangers is the stupidest and most dangerous. It's the English law that enabling this idiotic scenario. Erm. I'd better shut up.
I get what you're saying. The law as it stands only confuses the matter and doesn't do anything to make the sex industry any safer or more regulated. If proper brothel's were legalised and only given a valid license if they passed proper health and safety checks eg taxation on wages earnt, protection for the girls, proper employment details, regular health checks etc it would be a much better system.
This whole "lets pretend the profession doesn't exist and sweep it under the carpet" doesn't work. There are so many girls being forced into the trade and it's hard to tell who's in it because of choice and who's saying they are in it out of choice but have been forced into it.
Anyhoo's, I'm getting deep now and off topic so to bring it back on topic I'll get back on my high horse and call Jenny a skank again
In addition, it is specifically illegal to own or run a 'disorderly house' or brothel - anywhere more than one woman or man resorts to for non-marital sex. As this doesn't necessarily have to be at the same time, or involve sexual intercouse or, indeed, any payment, a very wide range of places are therefore 'brothels', including many hotels.
Taken on face value the above definition would find all hotels to meet the definition of 'brothel', insofar as "non-marital sex" takes place in hotels all the time, irrespective of any financial transaction :eek:
Next time you casually refer to the local Holiday Inn as a "knocking shop" (other hotel chains are available ), marvel that in the strictly technical terms of the applicable law, IT IS!
Only a hotel that expressly required all it's guests to be either legally wed (incl. civil partnerships) or 'solitary sleepers', and took steps to verify this, would escape the definition of "disorderly house". However such an establishment would then fall foul of other Equality and Discrimination legislation
There are very strict rules about advertising and you cannot run or advertise a brothel. You also cannot have paid sex in a hotel. You cannot curb crawl or solicit on the streets.
If the bit in bold is true, then surely when Jenny told the News of the World about Wayne paying her for sex in a hotel, she can get done for breaking the law
Only if she's involved in running the hotel, I think.
They've spoken to an ex-boyfriend and had a mate pass on pictures from her facebook.
Apparently she's been being paid for sex by footballers since she was sixteen and her best friend was murdered and she has a drug problem. I felt a bit sorry for her after I read that.
You don't actually believe everything in the papers do you? She's a really nice girl and this is the first I've heard about her being a prostitute, she was a glamour model.
aka getting your tits out for cash.
Not exactly a huge jump to celebrity shagging for cash...
No, and I've never said it did. He is as much to blame as the prostitute. She knew he was married, she didn't have to shag him, and he knew he had a pregnant wife at home. He shouldn't have been out looking for it, and her moral sense should have told her he was married and famous.
Erm, I'd say he's more to blame than the prostitute. He's the one with everything to lose, and she's the one with everything to gain. Basically I wholeheartedly agree with what this poster said:
This hooker also isn't the one who in front of all their friends, family, God and OK! magazine solemnly vowed and swore to Colleen and God (he's a Catholic:rolleyes:) that he would remain faithful to her and 'forsake all others' for the rest of his life. To be honest although what she did to Colleen was wrong she doesn't actually know her and doesn't have any particular reason to give a shit about her but Wayne does.
She's a prostitute. It isn't her job to be picky about the men she's slept with. She wouldn't be very good at her job otherwise, would she? I don't agree with prostitution at all but I can see that Wayne has done a far more terrible thing than she has. He's the one with the wife and baby at home. I don't blame her for selling her story, anyone who sleeps with that hobbit deserves all the money she can get.
Erm, I'd say he's more to blame than the prostitute. He's the one with everything to lose, and she's the one with everything to gain.
Her family are coming back off holiday shortly, and apparently don't know she's on the game.
Who's to say she hasn't lost them because of what she's been up to, both with Rooney and with other men?
If, as others have suggested here, she had no reason to consider Coleen's feelings (god knows why, some people's way of thinking baffles me) she had extremely good reason to consider those of her own family.
If, as others have suggested here, she had no reason to consider Coleen's feelings (god knows why, some people's way of thinking baffles me) .
if a rich guy come up to a prostitute do you expect her to get proof he is single first?
maybe she doesnt spend her life reading trashy gossip mags, maybe she didnt know this coleen bird was married to wayne, maybe she didnt know coleen was pregnant... why must we assume everybody knows all the intimate details of 'celebrities' life?
if some footballer offered me cash for sex, id bet i wouldnt have a clue if he was married or not!! he may have told her he was single
if a rich guy come up to a prostitute do you expect her to get proof he is single first? maybe she doesnt spend her life reading trashy gossip mags, maybe she didnt know this coleen bird was married to wayne, maybe she didnt know coleen was pregnant... why must we assume everybody knows all the intimate details of 'celebrities' life?
Yes, and the Tooth Fairy's real and the moon's made of green cheese.
She knew exactly who he was, she's spent most of her adult life shagging footy players.
if some footballer offered me cash for sex, id bet i wouldnt have a clue if he was married or not!! he may have told her he was single
If Rooney offered me cash for sex, it'd take a few million quid, not 1500!
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Doubt it, as it's been said above she's probably a reporter on the Hull Daily News.
This is her.
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Mail-s-Louise-named-reporter-year-industry-awards-ceremony/article-2449002-detail/art
Mail's Louise named reporter of the year at industry awards ceremony
http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Mail-s-Louise-named-reporter-year-industry-awards-ceremony/article-2449002-detail/article.html
"reporter of the year" scouring digitalspy for her stories
Yes I do understand the concept and to be quite frank I think you're trivialising marriage. When you get married to someone, you promise them, you swear to them, you make a vow that's only supposed to be made once and never broken that they are the only person that you will EVER sleep with, that you will take care of them, stay with them no matter what and not break that vow and it's not supposed to be taken lightly or broken lightly.
I don't think what she did was good or right or that she wasn't partly to blame but HE is the one who has responsibilities to his family, HE is the one who made a solemn vow not to do this, HE is the one who fathered her child and HE is the one who is supposed to love and protect Colleen. What the hooker did was horrible but she didn't have a family or child to protect, she didn't leave a trail of broken promises or lie to Colleen about where she'd been and what she'd been doing and who she was with and betray her trust (she was a stranger, Collen didn't know her to trust).
If it hadn't been her it would have been another hooker but he would still have done it and he would still have been the one breaking his promises.
Could be freelance and looking for a story to submit to the Mail I would guess.
http://journalisted.com/louise-eccles
I've been over and over this till I'm blue in the face, and I don't
intend to defend myself to you yet again.
Please don't presume to teach me about marriage. I've been married probably longer than you've been alive, and had a faithful bloke and been faithful in return. . :rolleyes:
Best not to teach your granny to suck eggs (or anything else) eh?
I'm sorry. You posted last, I haven't been on since then and I replied. Do you have some sort of special forum licence to argue and not have people argue back. That's a discussion. It's a discussion forum. If you don't like it don't post.
Possibly not a great idea for you to post that either especially when you're having a hissy fit about 'presumption' because I've been married rather a long time myself.
That's my opinion, I'm entitled to argue back to you if you continue to make the same point and put snotty little comments in about 'not being able to comprehend' purely because someone disagrees with you.
Again, as I said, if you're not able to have a debate and accept that someone has a different point of view from you without having a hissy fit and getting personal perhaps you might think about whether or not a discussion forum is the right place for you.
I'll support that idea the day prostitution is legalised.
Until then, sex workers can do whatever they think is best for themselves, especially when their profession constantly expose them to potential and real dangers (rape, unexpected acts of physical violence, abuse and murder) and health risks.
If the bit in bold is true, then surely when Jenny told the News of the World about Wayne paying her for sex in a hotel, she can get done for breaking the law
Looks as if you might be right.
I doubt if anyone's tried to take this to court though as there must be thousands of prostitute duos plying their trade in hotels all over the UK every day.
You interpreted it correctly and you were right to call me on my oversight. What I should have said is "prostitution is fully legalised".
About my previous response, I was referring to proper brothels with good protection and full access to health care and regular medical check-ups as well as some legal rights of their own. Exposing their own homes to strangers is the stupidest and most dangerous. It's the English law that enabling this idiotic scenario. Erm. I'd better shut up.
My dad is a legal advocate with a certain annual percentage of free legal services, which all go to sex workers in need of legal help. This is how I know a bit about their reality, more than I should know.
Incidentally there are many sex workers who refuse to reveal information about their clients, which gives my dad a massive headache when he's trying to help them. Not all are like some who would spill beans for cash.
I wouldn't be surprised if the police decides to question her. They did so in the past with the others who made similar claims.
This whole "lets pretend the profession doesn't exist and sweep it under the carpet" doesn't work. There are so many girls being forced into the trade and it's hard to tell who's in it because of choice and who's saying they are in it out of choice but have been forced into it.
Anyhoo's, I'm getting deep now and off topic so to bring it back on topic I'll get back on my high horse and call Jenny a skank again
Taken on face value the above definition would find all hotels to meet the definition of 'brothel', insofar as "non-marital sex" takes place in hotels all the time, irrespective of any financial transaction :eek:
Next time you casually refer to the local Holiday Inn as a "knocking shop" (other hotel chains are available
Only a hotel that expressly required all it's guests to be either legally wed (incl. civil partnerships) or 'solitary sleepers', and took steps to verify this, would escape the definition of "disorderly house". However such an establishment would then fall foul of other Equality and Discrimination legislation
Such is the absurdity of law :rolleyes:
Only if she's involved in running the hotel, I think.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1309638/What-turned-Jennifer-Thompson-Wayne-Rooneys-1-200-night-escort.html
They've spoken to an ex-boyfriend and had a mate pass on pictures from her facebook.
Apparently she's been being paid for sex by footballers since she was sixteen and her best friend was murdered and she has a drug problem. I felt a bit sorry for her after I read that.
aka getting your tits out for cash.
Not exactly a huge jump to celebrity shagging for cash...
Erm, I'd say he's more to blame than the prostitute. He's the one with everything to lose, and she's the one with everything to gain. Basically I wholeheartedly agree with what this poster said:
She's a prostitute. It isn't her job to be picky about the men she's slept with. She wouldn't be very good at her job otherwise, would she? I don't agree with prostitution at all but I can see that Wayne has done a far more terrible thing than she has. He's the one with the wife and baby at home. I don't blame her for selling her story, anyone who sleeps with that hobbit deserves all the money she can get.
Her family are coming back off holiday shortly, and apparently don't know she's on the game.
Who's to say she hasn't lost them because of what she's been up to, both with Rooney and with other men?
If, as others have suggested here, she had no reason to consider Coleen's feelings (god knows why, some people's way of thinking baffles me) she had extremely good reason to consider those of her own family.
if a rich guy come up to a prostitute do you expect her to get proof he is single first?
maybe she doesnt spend her life reading trashy gossip mags, maybe she didnt know this coleen bird was married to wayne, maybe she didnt know coleen was pregnant... why must we assume everybody knows all the intimate details of 'celebrities' life?
if some footballer offered me cash for sex, id bet i wouldnt have a clue if he was married or not!! he may have told her he was single
Yes, and the Tooth Fairy's real and the moon's made of green cheese.
She knew exactly who he was, she's spent most of her adult life shagging footy players.
If Rooney offered me cash for sex, it'd take a few million quid, not 1500!
Rooney should ask for a refund :eek: