Hollyoaks needs to be axed.
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I've watched the last week's episodes on catch up for the first time in a month and the show seems to be getting worse and worse! It's gone beyond ridiculous now.
None of the characters have any substance any more so now all the action is being propped up by OTT storylines, silly plot stalls and a never-ending cycle of death, destruction and mayhem. None of it has any fallout or meaning whatsoever, it's all just happening for the sake of it. Fraser's death in the last week is a prime example - his daughter wanted him dead and Joe tried to kill him on her behalf, only for Grace to change her mind and try and have Sandy killed instead, and then Fraser gets murdered 3 days later anyway. Why? For no other reason than to stall the plot AGAIN and set up another pointless "whodunnit" storyline.
And yet again several ongoing storylines have been forgotten about in the process. Hollyoaks has always done this but now it's got completely out of control. What's happening with JP and Danny? JP's rape? Peri's brain tumour? Sienna's search for her daughter? In the meantime we have silly things like Mercedes trying to get Cindy to dump Dirk when all those other serious (and supposedly central) storylines could be dealt with instead.
Everyone seems to be guilty of serious crimes and even the police don't come out looking good in any of it. Sonny seems to think he's in CSI and acts more like a gangster than a police detective. Sam Lomax is probably the most "decent" person in the show and even she's the most bent copper in TV history. She's destroyed confession tapes and evidence from 2 murders in the space of 2 months!
It's got to a point where there's no reason to care about ANY of the characters or anything that's happened in the show, least of all who killed Fraser or if JP gets out of prison. When a show gets that bad it really has nowhere else to go and needs to be put out of its misery.
None of the characters have any substance any more so now all the action is being propped up by OTT storylines, silly plot stalls and a never-ending cycle of death, destruction and mayhem. None of it has any fallout or meaning whatsoever, it's all just happening for the sake of it. Fraser's death in the last week is a prime example - his daughter wanted him dead and Joe tried to kill him on her behalf, only for Grace to change her mind and try and have Sandy killed instead, and then Fraser gets murdered 3 days later anyway. Why? For no other reason than to stall the plot AGAIN and set up another pointless "whodunnit" storyline.
And yet again several ongoing storylines have been forgotten about in the process. Hollyoaks has always done this but now it's got completely out of control. What's happening with JP and Danny? JP's rape? Peri's brain tumour? Sienna's search for her daughter? In the meantime we have silly things like Mercedes trying to get Cindy to dump Dirk when all those other serious (and supposedly central) storylines could be dealt with instead.
Everyone seems to be guilty of serious crimes and even the police don't come out looking good in any of it. Sonny seems to think he's in CSI and acts more like a gangster than a police detective. Sam Lomax is probably the most "decent" person in the show and even she's the most bent copper in TV history. She's destroyed confession tapes and evidence from 2 murders in the space of 2 months!
It's got to a point where there's no reason to care about ANY of the characters or anything that's happened in the show, least of all who killed Fraser or if JP gets out of prison. When a show gets that bad it really has nowhere else to go and needs to be put out of its misery.
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People are enjoying it and a few of their veiwers who are on DS don't agree but they are a fraction of veiwers.
How can you call for it to be axed?! Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean others don't! So I suggest of you don't like it don't watch it problem solved! Not everything revolves around you. These threads are stupid really stupid.
You should be banned from this fourm! Now that comment is exactly like your comments about HO! Just cause someone don't like your comments gives them no right to call for you to be banned! Same with HO, just cause you don't like it gives you no right for it to be axed. You haven't watched the show so your opinion is silly anyway. Of course you'll think it's not good if you watched last week for the first time in ages.
Silly and pathetic thread.
Bloody hell, how over the top are you?! Where did I say "I want it axed because I don't like it?"! Get a grip, idiot. It's not at all the same as saying someone should be banned for this forum for not liking their opinions. I've not watched it for a month, that's after watching regularly for a good while, that's hardly the same as not watching at all!
The reasons I've given have been the reasons that plenty of shows have been axed in the past. The show has become trapped in a cycle of plot-driven action with no substance to many of the storylines, nor any of the characters. It's got to a point where even the better characters aren't particularly likeable or relatable, so it will never recover without a complete overhaul at the very least. The never-ending mayhem is what killed Brookside off and Hollyoaks is now much worse than that ever was.
I wouldn't agree that it is "unmissable", if anything it's become boring through too much going on at once. I know some hyperactivity, escapism and suspension of reality is what makes soaps so enjoyable, but it's all got way too much to the point where it's become stuck in a rut of the same old unbelievable madness. I've watched the last week's episodes after 1 month of not watching, and all I could think was "oh not this nonsense again". The death rate in Hollyoaks is off the scale!
I do agree about the death rate. Hopefully that'll slow down after Fraser's death. I think Jim's death in particular was completely unnecessary and a waste of a great character.
Got to agree there, even that would be pushing it.
I doubt what I am about to say is true but I do hope C4 arent gradually trying to kill it off like they did with Brookside.I know its an independent production and they dont dictate storylines but is there any oversight or role for C4?
Quite a few of my friends who were long term viewers have given up on it.
I don't think they have any input into the show itself at all.
I certainly don't believe C4 want rid of it as they haven't made any of the moves they made when they killed off Brookside. Brookside was frequently shunted around the schedules so it was hard for viewers to keep up with, and when it was no longer working in prime time they kept dumping it in the weekday graveyard slots. Hollyoaks so far has maintained its timeslots, but C4 definitely wouldn't be scared to axe it if it continues to decline.
I can definitely see it going the same way as Night & Day did and moving to late nights only at some point. To be honest I could see that working in the show's favour as the majority of the Later spin-offs have usually been better than the main show.
Completely agree there - I was quite annoyed to find he'd been killed off if i'm honest.
Actually the more I think about it, the more a permanent late night slot for Hollyoaks seems like a great idea.
If that was to happen then I think (and hope) it would settle down into being a much more gritty and mature soap. Although if Brian Kirkwood is still at the helm it could easily turn into some bizarre lovechild of Saw, Sunset Beach and late 90s Channel 5 porn.
This is just a repeat of another thread last week.
As for Night and Day it's a bit silly to compare it to that as that wasn't on for years as Hollyoaks has been. That was shit from the start and shit when it ended.
I think it could deal with issues a lot better in a late night slot to be fair. Considering most of the action is so toned down and flat, a late night slot might allow it to do more and give it more impact, as we've seen with the Later episodes.
its not going happen, the sooner you realise the better. ( haven't you heard of late night Hollyoaks which is a bit grittier, that's when then deal with the tougher stuff which work quite well - wouldn't work at all if the main show was shifted to a night slot) NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Most people are happy watching at 6.30 or 7 so they wont change that.
What The Berk has done to this show is beyond ridiculous. He's pulled it so far from its roots that I think its time to wipe out the current cast and set and start afresh. They should rename it because this show is definitely not what it used to be. Hollyoaks died a long time ago
However, it is not at it's best. I think it needs a new EP. There are some great storylines (like the abuse between Maxine and Patrick and JP's rape), but there are too many cast members, so when you get into a certain SL, they stop showing it for weeks (When was the last time we saw JP?) It is all stops and starts, which is frustrating.
Unnecessarily killing off people is stupid in my opinion, like Jim. Marlow was one death too many too. They should have just kept it to Fraser.
Yes, sometimes it is sensationalist, but it stops it being boring I guess.
Excellent post.
Having been a soap addict for over 50 years I can say that Hollyoaks is one of the only remaining soaps that I watch compulsively. Even my hubby stops whatever he's doing and joins me.
Personally we love its ridiculously melodramatic over-the-top plots. It's almost all total nonsense of course with its predominantly useless coppers, people getting murdered, beaten up, drugged, and falsely arrested left, right and centre etc but that's what makes it so watchable for us. We know some of its storylines focus on serious issues as in JP's case, but we like that it doesn't home solely on these to the exclusion of all else. Maybe they have left JP languishing in prison without an on screen visit a bit too long, but we don't mind that particularly because we know, sometime in the not too distant future, the whole scenario involving him, Finn and Robbie will resurface.
We realise we are much, much, much older than HO's target demographic, but we don't care...as far as we're concerned it's great. Plus, in our opinion, it can boast one of the best baddies in a soap of all time - the brilliant Silas. Would love to know what happened to him after he went off on that bus though, oh and the whereabouts of Terry, Jackie's much loved, but apparently abandoned, gorgeous little dog.
it's when people disappear off screen and never come back
Don't call me an idiot. The truth is you are along for a soap to be axed cause you don't lie it. Exactly the same as my comments about banning members. Just cause u don't like it doesn't mean others don't.
I can't believe you called my post OTT when yours is worse.
Yes, it is a little different to the 'big three' but it's not afraid to be different. No other soap has done a male rape storyline as far as I'm aware, yet Hollyoaks have done it twice now. The current domestic abuse storyline is also fantastic, and being used in real adverts now!
I agree the gangster stuff was a bit much, but the leader is dead now so it's all coming to an end. Meanwhile we've got to see three dimensions to the likes of Grace and Trevor, why Grace is evil, and how all she ever wanted was love from her dad, Trevor got wrapped in it all, but he wants to become clean and enter into the tropical fish trade. Many other soap criminals are just evil for the sake of being evil with no explanation. Some Hollyoaks villains of the past have been evil without much background story or explanation either (ie Dr Browning).
Hollyoaks is going nowhere soon, it's been on 5 days a week at 6:30pm for 10 years now (IIRC) and showing no signs of decline.