Will Buxton @willbuxton
There have been a few questions about it... and yes. Delighted that I've been asked back to cover @GP2_Official and @GP3_Official for FOM.
5:33 p.m. - Feb 17, 2013
I've just been watching back all the GP highlights from the last 2 years on the BBC website. And I don't think I have ever really notice how much David Coulthard has improved. We all know he's improved but watching back it's astounding.
DC was actually terrible in his first few races and he was always MB's sidekick in 2011. 2012 comes along and he's a different commentator. It's also noticeable how much Ben improved and how well Ben and DC gelled.
They work really well together. Brundle is a good commentator but I wouldn't want to loose DC or Ben. They are perfect together.
Is it just me or did when Ted and Natalie were talking about the 3D on the F1 Show seem very forced?
Ted seemed more interested in live testing than 3D, while Natalie was trying to push 3D - I agree with Ted there. Looking forward to how Sky lay out the testing programs.
Ted seemed more interested in live testing than 3D, while Natalie was trying to push 3D - I agree with Ted there. Looking forward to how Sky lay out the testing programs.
The programmes are from 2-4.30pm each day aren't they D.M.N? If so, I'll go through the way I'd 'schedule' the coverage on the 4 days.
A quick Google Image Search for "Martin Brundle" shows this not to be true.
Definitely on the shows the "Sky" part of Brundle's mic is always facing towards him but on the Google pictures the photographer is to his side and displays "Sky". All relative to positioning I suppose but my point was that Brundle doesn't come across as being keen on being "owned" by Sky unlike Lazenby, Herbert and Hill.
I do hope the live testing is actually about the testing, that just happens to be in 3D, and not a 3D experiment centred around a test, if you see what I mean.
I do hope the live testing is actually about the testing, that just happens to be in 3D, and not a 3D experiment centred around a test, if you see what I mean.
E.g. They set up 3D cameras and not cover the whole track to get the best shots. I am not sure they would be doing live coverage of a test if wasn't for the 3D aspect.
I don't see it as a bad thing they are trying something new and also provided us some live testing coverage. I don't have access to 3D but will be interested to read what other people think of it.
I do hope the live testing is actually about the testing, that just happens to be in 3D, and not a 3D experiment centred around a test, if you see what I mean.
If it follows Sky's regular 3D broadcasting pattern, it will be a completely different production, with different cameras, commentators, vision mixing, graphics etc.
If it follows Sky's regular 3D broadcasting pattern, it will be a completely different production, with different cameras, commentators, vision mixing, graphics etc.
As has already been said, the idea of Sky having different 3D commentators for F1 testing is highly unlikely.
Well Done Danica Patrick..
She sits on the Pole.
Jp
Yes, not bad at all! I'm thinking of subscribing to premier sports this week for the NASCAR season (rather than relying again on dodgy we streams...). Does anyone know what the best discount code is?
I've found one that gives the option of a 12-month pass for £80 (Instead of £9.99/month). Discount code "BOWLS" (that's bowls, not bowels). Is this the best offer?
Ted seemed more interested in live testing than 3D, while Natalie was trying to push 3D - I agree with Ted there. Looking forward to how Sky lay out the testing programs.
That came across to me, it was just the uneasy-ness that stuck out to me.
If it follows Sky's regular 3D broadcasting pattern, it will be a completely different production, with different cameras, commentators, vision mixing, graphics etc.
Derek, being a shareholder in Sky does not mean that you have to comment on everything Sky related on here.
That my be the way that they do their 3D of a main event, but the F1 event is tiny in comparison.
Yes, not bad at all! I'm thinking of subscribing to premier sports this week for the NASCAR season (rather than relying again on dodgy we streams...). Does anyone know what the best discount code is?
I've found one that gives the option of a 12-month pass for £80 (Instead of £9.99/month). Discount code "BOWLS" (that's bowls, not bowels). Is this the best offer?
Don't know as I swore NEVER to subscribe to those potato hugging knee cappers after the 2011 title decider debacle where they said it on for free then withdrew the freeview mid race....eejits.
They've done some tiny events* in 3D and always have completely different coverage.
*e.g. Showjumping getting 20k viewers on Sky sports 4 in 2D
But as I've said on this thread, that's not the case across the board - they've done motorsport (Goodwood Festival of Speed) with exactly the same coverage 2D and 3D.
But as I've said on this thread, that's not the case across the board - they've done motorsport (Goodwood Festival of Speed) with exactly the same coverage 2D and 3D.
OK. I can't comment on that as I didn't watch any 2d coverage. The presenters/commentators were mentioning 3D a lot, which doesn't happen on other sports,
And they had a dedicated 3D camera on Tony Jardine and the other guy. Normally with the football.and golf etc,. they use the initial presentation in 2D before handing over to the 3D team.
If that happens, then it looks like the onboard streams via the Red Button will be in HD for 2013 too, then.
And hopefully the pit lane channel too as it's a bit difficult to follow split screen on this option in SD.
Related to that, I would hope this year to see separate programs during the week of highlights 'from the pits' or 'from the cockpit' with edits from these feeds - it would help fill some time with something different in the schedule; assuming it's not going to be too full of classic race re-runs
But as I've said on this thread, that's not the case across the board - they've done motorsport (Goodwood Festival of Speed) with exactly the same coverage 2D and 3D.
Goodwood had a separate OB for 3D from the 2D one.
The 3D one was provided by Telegenics (who do all Sky's 3D), while 2D coverage was done by Arqiva (in what I think was their last job before leaving the OB industry).
OK. I can't comment on that as I didn't watch any 2d coverage. The presenters/commentators were mentioning 3D a lot, which doesn't happen on other sports,
And they had a dedicated 3D camera on Tony Jardine and the other guy. Normally with the football.and golf etc,. they use the initial presentation in 2D before handing over to the 3D team.
I agree, you normally do get a dedicated commentary team. Sadly for the football it quite often seems that the commentary is second rate compared to the 2D offering, to the extent that I've tried to sync up the 'proper' commentary via Sky Go to the 3D pictures. Anyway, that's going off topic, but it will be interesting to see which route they go down with the test - hopefully not a separate commentary with the likes of Jonathan Legard
Comments
There have been a few questions about it... and yes. Delighted that I've been asked back to cover @GP2_Official and @GP3_Official for FOM.
5:33 p.m. - Feb 17, 2013
A quick Google Image Search for "Martin Brundle" shows this not to be true.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxkq2g_1998-canada_auto#.USEpt_KaaGc
I found it funny when Chilton was talking about pay drivers, he didn't include himself in the list of pay drivers.
DC was actually terrible in his first few races and he was always MB's sidekick in 2011. 2012 comes along and he's a different commentator. It's also noticeable how much Ben improved and how well Ben and DC gelled.
They work really well together. Brundle is a good commentator but I wouldn't want to loose DC or Ben. They are perfect together.
Ken
Ted seemed more interested in live testing than 3D, while Natalie was trying to push 3D - I agree with Ted there. Looking forward to how Sky lay out the testing programs.
The programmes are from 2-4.30pm each day aren't they D.M.N? If so, I'll go through the way I'd 'schedule' the coverage on the 4 days.
Yes - although Sunday is 1pm to 3:55pm.
O/T - Lewis Hamilton is on Top Gear in a min.
2pm: Intro, discussions about the day so far, any incidents, and general chat
2.15pm: Head to Croft plus guest/s in the commentary box (combining with interviews/news from Ted)
4pm: Back to the presenters in the pits for a round up/general chat
4.10pm: Interviews with whoever
4.20pm: More chat about what they've heard in the interviews, and anything else generally that's come up
4.26/27pm: End credits.
Something along those lines would be reasonable I think.
She sits on the Pole.
Jp
Definitely on the shows the "Sky" part of Brundle's mic is always facing towards him but on the Google pictures the photographer is to his side and displays "Sky". All relative to positioning I suppose but my point was that Brundle doesn't come across as being keen on being "owned" by Sky unlike Lazenby, Herbert and Hill.
E.g. They set up 3D cameras and not cover the whole track to get the best shots. I am not sure they would be doing live coverage of a test if wasn't for the 3D aspect.
I don't see it as a bad thing they are trying something new and also provided us some live testing coverage. I don't have access to 3D but will be interested to read what other people think of it.
If it follows Sky's regular 3D broadcasting pattern, it will be a completely different production, with different cameras, commentators, vision mixing, graphics etc.
As has already been said, the idea of Sky having different 3D commentators for F1 testing is highly unlikely.
Yes, not bad at all! I'm thinking of subscribing to premier sports this week for the NASCAR season (rather than relying again on dodgy we streams...). Does anyone know what the best discount code is?
I've found one that gives the option of a 12-month pass for £80 (Instead of £9.99/month). Discount code "BOWLS" (that's bowls, not bowels). Is this the best offer?
Derek, being a shareholder in Sky does not mean that you have to comment on everything Sky related on here.
That my be the way that they do their 3D of a main event, but the F1 event is tiny in comparison.
Don't know as I swore NEVER to subscribe to those potato hugging knee cappers after the 2011 title decider debacle where they said it on for free then withdrew the freeview mid race....eejits.
I will be relying on said dodgy we streams.
Jp
- http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1795335
- http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1797971
If that happens, then it looks like the onboard streams via the Red Button will be in HD for 2013 too, then.
They've done some tiny events* in 3D and always have completely different coverage.
*e.g. Showjumping getting 20k viewers on Sky sports 4 in 2D
But as I've said on this thread, that's not the case across the board - they've done motorsport (Goodwood Festival of Speed) with exactly the same coverage 2D and 3D.
OK. I can't comment on that as I didn't watch any 2d coverage. The presenters/commentators were mentioning 3D a lot, which doesn't happen on other sports,
And they had a dedicated 3D camera on Tony Jardine and the other guy. Normally with the football.and golf etc,. they use the initial presentation in 2D before handing over to the 3D team.
And hopefully the pit lane channel too as it's a bit difficult to follow split screen on this option in SD.
Related to that, I would hope this year to see separate programs during the week of highlights 'from the pits' or 'from the cockpit' with edits from these feeds - it would help fill some time with something different in the schedule; assuming it's not going to be too full of classic race re-runs
Goodwood had a separate OB for 3D from the 2D one.
The 3D one was provided by Telegenics (who do all Sky's 3D), while 2D coverage was done by Arqiva (in what I think was their last job before leaving the OB industry).
I agree, you normally do get a dedicated commentary team. Sadly for the football it quite often seems that the commentary is second rate compared to the 2D offering, to the extent that I've tried to sync up the 'proper' commentary via Sky Go to the 3D pictures. Anyway, that's going off topic, but it will be interesting to see which route they go down with the test - hopefully not a separate commentary with the likes of Jonathan Legard