I never watched it when it was first shown..........but I'm watching this time round
So far every episode has been a bit samey............someone arrives on the station to do in one of the regular cast, usually with a special power or talent
So far I'm liking the characters that we're meant to like...........Garibaldi and the Centauri Ambassador and his chum
Maybe last night was a bit different in that it left an unresolved question..............what happened to Sinclair at the end of the war, why did the Minbari surrender and what was the Minbari Ambassadors role in those events ?
I never watched it when it was first shown..........but I'm watching this time round
So far every episode has been a bit samey............someone arrives on the station to do in one of the regular cast, usually with a special power or talent
So far I'm liking the characters that we're meant to like...........Garibaldi and the Centauri Ambassador and his chum
Maybe last night was a bit different in that it left an unresolved question..............what happened to Sinclair at the end of the war, why did the Minbari surrender and what was the Minbari Ambassadors role in those events ?
Be interesting to see if that storyline continues
Oh - that Sinclair storyline is one of the arc elements that is woven through chunks of S3 and S4... and is also part of Delenn's arc IIRC...
So far every episode has been a bit samey............someone arrives on the station to do in one of the regular cast, usually with a special power or talent
Yeah - series 1 was a bit ... meh (heresy! ). But it really kicked up a gear startig with S2.
So far as the actors dying. I suppose that's what happens when you consider a 25 year-old show that used age-appropriate actors, rather than having everyone from the cleaner up to the admirals as pretty, twenty-somethings. IMHO that is what gave the characters a lot of their depth and, well .... character.
Oh - that Sinclair storyline is one of the arc elements that is woven through chunks of S3 and S4... and is also part of Delenn's arc IIRC...
I think this was the first episode in which I thought there might be more to this series than I thought. I seem to recollect it wasn't mentioned in the next few episodes, but as alcockell says its one of the arc elements - and unlike some other series it will become apparent to viewers that it's not being made up as they go along. There is a really strong storyline to B5.
I watched 'Believers' the other day and I actually thought it was a good episode on second viewing.
I think it was 'Signs and Portents' when I started to get really into this series. Then of course there is 'Babylon Squared' coming up soon.
Think I have seen about 7 episodes so far next being Deathwalker but now yet another old show I have got into this year as well as smallville which I never watched first time round.
Maybe when am done with B5 I can give Battlestar Galactica a go to.
oh yes the Sinclair storyline i remember getting to season 2 episode 1 and thinking wait a moment where's he gone but as it continued and the way they wove his story into the arc was really gripping.
I'm watching it all again (I have it all on DVD anyway) It's a terrific show and one that I hope will return in the future. Still so many stories to be told.
With season 1 approaching it's end, i have to say, i love this show. I think it's great. I am glad i gave it a go. I am going to stop watching and invest in the complete series with my christmas money
oh and I think Claudia Christian is absolutley brill. Susa Ivanova is already one of my fav female science ficiton women alongside the likes of Dana Scully, Aeryn Sun and Sam Carter.
I notice AD is on Film 4 at 9PM tonight its in planner the next episode I watch is Eyes though really into the show.
Am I right in thinking you watch AD at the end?
I notice AD is on Film 4 at 9PM tonight its in planner the next episode I watch is Eyes though really into the show.
Am I right in thinking you watch AD at the end?
No, that's a totally different film. Babylon AD is a French American Film with Vin Diesel.
oh and I think Claudia Christian is absolutley brill. Susa Ivanova is already one of my fav female science ficiton women alongside the likes of Dana Scully, Aeryn Sun and Sam Carter.
Sinclair: "Sleep well?"
Ivanova: "Sleeping is not the problem. Waking up...that is a problem. I've always had hard time getting up when it's dark outside."
Sinclair: "But in space it's always dark."
Ivanova: "I know, I know...."
If you already love season 1, then you'll be positively rapturous about seasons 2-4 and the end of season 5.....
I'm actually enjoying this run of Season 1 more then when it was originally broadcast, IIRC the scheduling was all over the place when it was first shown and seeing them stripped M-F is much better continuity wise. Unlike most shows this was has defiantly improved with time. Just a pity a HD Blu-Ray release is unlikely due to the cost.
Just a pity a HD Blu-Ray release is unlikely due to the cost.
Virtually impossible. At least without re-doing the VFX from scratch, which WBs will never go for.
They lost the VFX files a while ago, so they can't be re-rendered. The worst scenes are the ones where you have a mixture of CGI and live action - that's why they look so duff on the DVDs. A real shame though, JMS did a lot to future-proof the show, but ultimately this one thing limits it, severely.
There are a couple of good episodes in there but it was cancelled so early that it never really got a chance to find its feet. If I'd only seen the first 13 episodes of B5 I wouldn't be too impressed either.
I can't remember at all why I didn't watch it first time round
But I'm glad I didn't as I prefer watching at one episode per day............that's how I watched Next Gen and DS9 when I got cable TV 20-odd years ago, again after not watching them first time round
Only 2 more episodes of series one
I'm really enjoying it........I think so far most of the storylines are pretty generic sci-fi scenarios and could have been in Next Gen or DS9
Most days someone arrives at the station with some kind of special power or talent and a grudge against a regular cast member...........standard stuff
What I like is how the man characters are world-weary cynical types, sceptical of the earth authorities and military leadership, constantly feeling put upon and browbeaten.....
I like ivanova's little under her breath rants to camera......erm, well we could do that, but then I'd have to get a shuttle, come out to your ship and rip your head off........
Jeff with all the cares of the universe all on his shoulders.....
Garibaldi slamming some guys head on the bar counter.........oops !
It's got a very different feel to the Star Trek shows
I haven't warmed to any of the star trek shows as I have been going through all of them at the moment. I have often found other space shows like Andromeda, Babylon 5, Farscape etc for me are much better. But of course without Star trek, these shows wouldn't have happened and I do respect the legacy the franchise has had. But it's not for me.
What I like is how the man characters are world-weary cynical types, sceptical of the earth authorities and military leadership, constantly feeling put upon and browbeaten.....
I like ivanova's little under her breath rants to camera......erm, well we could do that, but then I'd have to get a shuttle, come out to your ship and rip your head off........
Jeff with all the cares of the universe all on his shoulders.....
Garibaldi slamming some guys head on the bar counter.........oops !
It's got a very different feel to the Star Trek shows
It was the 'grittier' (for want of a better word) way the characters and the technology were portrayed that really made B5 come alive for me. I'd always enjoyed Star Trek but it was a very clean, ordered, efficient place, very much a product of Gene Roddenberry's ideology.
I think I'd quite like to sit down for a beer with JMS. :cool:
As for the generic sci fi episodes, don't worry, it's only setting teh scene and letting you get to know the characters, the 'story' hasn't really started yet. (OK, in retrospect it has, but you only realise that once you've seen how the later series pan out.
Pay attention at the back, there will be questions...
If you're not blown away by that triumvirate of episodes then you might as well give up. Season 1 was hit and miss for me, but getting that triple whammy towards the end of the season elevated the show to 'must watch', and it never left that space until it finished.
It is a great little box. You get all 5 seasons, the spin-off and even the movies that aired before, during and after the series's run. It's rare you get everything in one sitting, especially a spin-off
From memory, there were two versions of the 'complete' set, one which included The Lost Tales, and one that didn't. If you have the former set then you do indeed get everything, which considering how much that is, is a bargain!
In terms of the spinoffs, Crusade was interesting, cut down just as it was about to get really interesting. Legend of the Rangers, was pretty poor IMO. The Lost Tales is a pair of vignettes from the core series. The first is a bit meh, the second, is a decent Sheridan minisode. JMS had planned on doing more of those, but WBs were a bit stingy with the $$$ and Joe decided not to do them if he couldn't do them right. A shame, from memory the next ones were a Londo story, a Garibaldi story, and I think a Bester story.
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So far every episode has been a bit samey............someone arrives on the station to do in one of the regular cast, usually with a special power or talent
So far I'm liking the characters that we're meant to like...........Garibaldi and the Centauri Ambassador and his chum
Maybe last night was a bit different in that it left an unresolved question..............what happened to Sinclair at the end of the war, why did the Minbari surrender and what was the Minbari Ambassadors role in those events ?
Be interesting to see if that storyline continues
Yeah - series 1 was a bit ... meh (heresy!
So far as the actors dying. I suppose that's what happens when you consider a 25 year-old show that used age-appropriate actors, rather than having everyone from the cleaner up to the admirals as pretty, twenty-somethings. IMHO that is what gave the characters a lot of their depth and, well .... character.
I think this was the first episode in which I thought there might be more to this series than I thought. I seem to recollect it wasn't mentioned in the next few episodes, but as alcockell says its one of the arc elements - and unlike some other series it will become apparent to viewers that it's not being made up as they go along. There is a really strong storyline to B5.
I watched 'Believers' the other day and I actually thought it was a good episode on second viewing.
I think it was 'Signs and Portents' when I started to get really into this series. Then of course there is 'Babylon Squared' coming up soon.
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I had to rematch it all often like with signs and portents
Maybe when am done with B5 I can give Battlestar Galactica a go to.
oh and I think Claudia Christian is absolutley brill. Susa Ivanova is already one of my fav female science ficiton women alongside the likes of Dana Scully, Aeryn Sun and Sam Carter.
Am I right in thinking you watch AD at the end?
No, that's a totally different film. Babylon AD is a French American Film with Vin Diesel.
Sinclair: "Sleep well?"
Ivanova: "Sleeping is not the problem. Waking up...that is a problem. I've always had hard time getting up when it's dark outside."
Sinclair: "But in space it's always dark."
Ivanova: "I know, I know...."
If you already love season 1, then you'll be positively rapturous about seasons 2-4 and the end of season 5.....
Oh might delete this then as just to much other things on the planner.
Virtually impossible. At least without re-doing the VFX from scratch, which WBs will never go for.
They lost the VFX files a while ago, so they can't be re-rendered. The worst scenes are the ones where you have a mixture of CGI and live action - that's why they look so duff on the DVDs. A real shame though, JMS did a lot to future-proof the show, but ultimately this one thing limits it, severely.
There are a couple of good episodes in there but it was cancelled so early that it never really got a chance to find its feet. If I'd only seen the first 13 episodes of B5 I wouldn't be too impressed either.
I can't remember at all why I didn't watch it first time round
But I'm glad I didn't as I prefer watching at one episode per day............that's how I watched Next Gen and DS9 when I got cable TV 20-odd years ago, again after not watching them first time round
Only 2 more episodes of series one
I'm really enjoying it........I think so far most of the storylines are pretty generic sci-fi scenarios and could have been in Next Gen or DS9
Most days someone arrives at the station with some kind of special power or talent and a grudge against a regular cast member...........standard stuff
What I like is how the man characters are world-weary cynical types, sceptical of the earth authorities and military leadership, constantly feeling put upon and browbeaten.....
I like ivanova's little under her breath rants to camera......erm, well we could do that, but then I'd have to get a shuttle, come out to your ship and rip your head off........
Jeff with all the cares of the universe all on his shoulders.....
Garibaldi slamming some guys head on the bar counter.........oops !
It's got a very different feel to the Star Trek shows
It was the 'grittier' (for want of a better word) way the characters and the technology were portrayed that really made B5 come alive for me. I'd always enjoyed Star Trek but it was a very clean, ordered, efficient place, very much a product of Gene Roddenberry's ideology.
I think I'd quite like to sit down for a beer with JMS. :cool:
As for the generic sci fi episodes, don't worry, it's only setting teh scene and letting you get to know the characters, the 'story' hasn't really started yet. (OK, in retrospect it has, but you only realise that once you've seen how the later series pan out.
Pay attention at the back, there will be questions...
If you're not blown away by that triumvirate of episodes then you might as well give up. Season 1 was hit and miss for me, but getting that triple whammy towards the end of the season elevated the show to 'must watch', and it never left that space until it finished.
It is a great little box. You get all 5 seasons, the spin-off and even the movies that aired before, during and after the series's run. It's rare you get everything in one sitting, especially a spin-off
In terms of the spinoffs, Crusade was interesting, cut down just as it was about to get really interesting. Legend of the Rangers, was pretty poor IMO. The Lost Tales is a pair of vignettes from the core series. The first is a bit meh, the second, is a decent Sheridan minisode. JMS had planned on doing more of those, but WBs were a bit stingy with the $$$ and Joe decided not to do them if he couldn't do them right. A shame, from memory the next ones were a Londo story, a Garibaldi story, and I think a Bester story.
Enjoy the set, it's brilliant.