Hypocrite? Takes one to know one!!! Hitler used democracy to stop democracy and kill tens of millions of people, suppose thats alright huh?!!!! :mad:
He also banned political parties, which is what you advocate as well, hypocrite. So learn the facts and stop getting into a little hissy fit. Pathetic,
I vote BNP and it is my choice and no one elses.
I refuse to vote for any of the main three parties and I think the BNP are better than the others ie UKIP etc.
I think it is wrong of the idiots on these forums to resort to bullying and insults just because someone votes for a party they don't agree with.
A party whose main activity is bullying and intimidation!!!
Why should I justify what I vote for to you? As I said it is my choice and my choice alone. It is not for you to tell me to vote otherswise.
I do not support racism, violence or bigotry but I do strongly oppose mass immigration. That does not make me racist etc.
No its not OK, but lets remember he used flaws in the system. Not to mention people will not always the make the right choice under democracy but its only fair that they make that choice.
So Germans made the right choice in the early 30's with electing Hitler then?
Then their wasn't no elections until after the war ended withbest part of a 100 million dead all because we have to live up to democracy to this extent? No, if you want pure democracy/freedom, then there wouldn't be any laws at all would there?
He also banned political parties, which is what you advocate as well, hypocrite. So learn the facts and stop getting into a little hissy fit. Pathetic,
Hypocrite, Hypocrite, I say FOOL and not me either! Go and do one pal!
I'l add this, Its the far right that would repeat what Hitler did and you have a problem with me?
No wonder we ended up going to war with iraq thought I've noticed your not living in mainland Britiain.
To easy to fool people because theirs too many fools out their! :mad:
So Germans made the right choice in the early 30's with electing Hitler then?
They made a choice that they were entitled to make. It was the wrong choice but that's not the point....banning extremist parties stands against democratic values.
If the people vote for the wrong parties then they suffer the consequences. It's for the people to decide.
They made a choice that they were entitled to make. It was the wrong choice but that's not the point....banning extremist parties stands against democratic values.
If the people vote for the wrong parties then they suffer the consequences. It's for the people to decide.
They made the wrong choice, yes that right, so that means jack1 was wrong that people always make the right choice under democracy doesn't it?! :rolleyes:
More concerend about allowing far right people to use democracy even though you know they would end it completely if given the chance and would go a lot futher and I'm the bad guy, yeah riiiggghhhtttt! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
For those of you who need things spelling out, I've heard former members of the far right talk about what they would do if they got the chance, " either the ethnic minorities leave Britain voluntary or we would be quite prepared to push them off the pier".
Yup, we must have democracy for the far right for them to carry out ethnic cleansing, err no!! :rolleyes:
They made the wrong choice, yes that right, so that means jack1 was wrong that people always make the right choice under democracy doesn't it?! :rolleyes:
More concerend about allowing far right people to use democracy even though you know they would end it completely if given the chance and would go a lot futher and I'm the bad guy, yeah riiiggghhhtttt! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
For those of you who need things spelling out, I've heard former members of the far right talk about what they would do if they got the chance, " either the ethnic minorities leave Britain voluntary or we would be quite prepared to push them off the pier".
Yup, democracy must be followed! :rolleyes:
So what would be democratic about banning these extremist parties?
As soon as these people got any significant share of votes it would hopefully result in those against these parties voting for less extreme parties in future elections. The Nazi party didn't win in their first election.
And...if after that the 'wrong' party did win an election I'd be out of the UK voluntarily as it would mean that I obviously don't understand the people in my own country!
Rightly or wrongly it's for the people to decide on who they want to vote for.
Hypocrite, Hypocrite, I say FOOL and not me either! Go and do one pal!
I'l add this, Its the far right that would repeat what Hitler did and you have a problem with me?
No wonder we ended up going to war with iraq thought I've noticed your not living in mainland Britiain.
To easy to fool people because theirs too many fools out their! :mad:
Yes, Hitler banned democratic paties and you also want to start banning political parties.
The BNP will never get into power anyway you buffoon. And you can take that from someone who has devoted their entire university dissertation to studying far-right movements. Know it all.
And no I didn't have to come from any specific country to research the subject.
Stop crying. You're like a little brat. Wa, wa, wa. I've had more academic conversations with my 16 year old brother. Don't get "mad" again.
Sorry, but your debating skills are non-existent, as that last post was a load of tripe. Only way I can describe it. FIrstly what has the Iraq war got to do with what I said?
What has the Iraq war got to do with the far-right, Hitler, and Nazis? And why is my location significant with something unrelated to this topic? :rolleyes:
Also can I just add - if you're going to get serious and start banging at your keyboard because you disagree with someone at least bother to use proper grammar. Moron.
Yes, Hitler banned democratic paties and you also want to start banning political parties.
The BNP will never get into power anyway you buffoon. And you can take that from someone who has devoted their entire university dissertation to studying far-right movements. Know it all.
And no I didn't have to come from any specific country to research the subject.
Stop crying. You're like a little brat. Wa, wa, wa. I've had more academic conversations with my 16 year old brother. Don't get "mad" again.
Don't get mad again? Up to me on that one.
I don't give credence that the far right are political parties. Its aguise for them to start doing what Hitler done inc killings/ethnic cleansing.
In India, the far right got into power their between 98-2004, they where threatning invasion of Pakistan, until Pakistan went nuclear and they shut up, and then their supporters started killing muslms in Gujarat and it resulted in tit for tat killings but it was the far right that started it.
If it wasn't for the fact that the muslims had been living in India for centuries and hadn't migrated in, then that far right gov would have expelled them for sure too.
I'l leave that for you to chew on and I'm not sure I'l bother responding to other posts on here, I've made the key points and I can't beleive you'd allow the far right to USE the system to do a repeat of what Hitler with regard to ethnic cleansing. The far rigth don't ever deserve a platform again, no way.
The BNP and all extreme parties should be banned. Why on earth do we allow people to run on these platforms after what Hitler did on simlar tickets?
Its crazy!
In what way was the German Empire under Hitler any different from the British Empire? Both invaded any country they liked, and both committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.
I don't give credence that the far right are political parties. Its aguise for them to start doing what Hitler done inc killings/ethnic cleansing.
In India, the far right got into poer their between 98-2004, they where threatning invasion of Pakistan, until Pakistan went nuclear and they shut up, and then their supporters started killing muslms in Gujarat and it resulted in tit for tat killings but it was the far right that started it.
If it wasn't for the fact that the muslims had been living in India for centuries and hadn't migrated in, then that far right gov would have expelled them for sure too.
I'l leave that for you to chew on and I'm not sure I'l bother responding to other posts on here, I've made the key points and I can't beleive you'd allow the far right to USE the system to do a repeat of what Hitler with regard to ethnic cleansing. The far rigth don't ever deserve a platform again, no way.
You obviously know nothing as the whole basis of your argument is Nick Griffin suddenly turning into a Hitler shrewd like character that will abuse the British democratic process to get into power.
Completely forgetting he didn't win a seat and his parties share of the vote dropped in the last election. :yawn:
I don't give credence that the far right are political parties. Its aguise for them to start doing what Hitler done inc killings/ethnic cleansing.
In India, the far right got into power their between 98-2004, they where threatning invasion of Pakistan, until Pakistan went nuclear and they shut up, and then their supporters started killing muslms in Gujarat and it resulted in tit for tat killings but it was the far right that started it.
If it wasn't for the fact that the muslims had been living in India for centuries and hadn't migrated in, then that far right gov would have expelled them for sure too.
I'l leave that for you to chew on and I'm not sure I'l bother responding to other posts on here, I've made the key points and I can't beleive you'd allow the far right to USE the system to do a repeat of what Hitler with regard to ethnic cleansing. The far rigth don't ever deserve a platform again, no way.
So because you think the BNP would become a dictatorship they aren't a political party? They are a political party...just like the Nazis, Communists and any other dictatorship.
If they have policies on ethnic cleansing etc. it's still a policy which makes them a political party.
I understand what you're saying but surely you must understand the point I am trying to make even if you don't agree with it?
In what way was the German Empire under Hitler any different from the British Empire? Both invaded any country they liked, and both committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing under the British colonialism days?
Bit more details please.
Empire was bad but not as bad as Hitler. Hitler wanted to rule Europe and create an arian race, Britain wanted the fruits/loot on invading and colonising countries.
So because you think the BNP would become a dictatorship they aren't a political party? They are a political party...just like the Nazis, Communists and any other dictatorship.
If they have policies on ethnic cleansing etc. it's still a policy which makes them a political party.
I understand what you're saying but surely you must understand the point I am trying to make even if you don't agree with it?
And, for the record...I vote Lib Dem!
If they ever put pen to paper on their real intentions they would be banned, thats the whole point, they are playing the system. Thanks for making the point that made me realise to put the point that way. ( Right deal, c'mon answer this point.)
Theirs no way the far right could stand on a policy of ethnic cleansing and not get banned, I repeat the far right, they are playing the system
Extreme muslim groups have been banned and rightly so imo, whats your views on that? Anjum Chowdery and his groups? He's been banned about 2 or 3 times.
Ethnic cleansing under the British colonialism days?
Bit more details please.
Empire was bad but not as bad as Hitler. Hitler wanted to rule Europe and create an arian race, Britain wanted the fruits/loot on invading and colonising countries.
So why did the British kill hundreds of thousands of Native Americans? The Spanish didn't do this, which explains the native majority in S America and the white majority in N America.
So why did the British kill hundreds of thousands of Native Americans? The Spanish didn't do this, which explains the native majority in S America and the white majority in N America.
I've never studied or been tought in detail aboit Native Americans so cannot respond really. Only heard anecdotal things, very anecdotal.
Unfortunately, American history was an A level subject I believe, definetly didn't come up during the ages of 11-16.
Extreme muslim groups have been banned and rightly so imo, whats your views on that? Anjum Chowdery and his groups? He's been banned about 2 or 3 times.
I think if extreme Muslim groups wanted to set up a political party then they should also be allowed to do so.
IIRC Anjum Chowdery and Islam4UK were not an actual party? I might be wrong there.
When it comes to citizens though, which these would have been, then they need to stay within the laws of the country.
I think if extreme Muslim groups wanted to set up a political party then they should also be allowed to do so.
IIRC Anjum Chowdery and Islam4UK were not an actual party? I might be wrong there.
When it comes to citizens though, which these would have been, then they need to stay within the laws of the country.
And ethnic cleaninsing is illegal and the far right would be banned if they stood on policies like that, so thats why they are trying to play the system, get in and then you will see the real "policies" of the far right.
And ethnic cleaninsing is illegal and the far right would be banned if they stood on policies like that, so thats why they are trying to play the system, get in and then you will see the real "policies" of the far right.
What evidence do you have that the BNP actually want to ethnically cleanse?
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About half a million.
Which is lest we forget is half a million down on their last turn out, hopefully they'll keep up that sort of success.
I believe they settled out of court. I am hoping that Unilever make them pay it to a charity specialising on helping promote multiculturalism.
He also banned political parties, which is what you advocate as well, hypocrite. So learn the facts and stop getting into a little hissy fit. Pathetic,
are you sure...do you have non white friends...
More than that what do they say when you tell them you voted to kick them out of the country.
So Germans made the right choice in the early 30's with electing Hitler then?
Then their wasn't no elections until after the war ended withbest part of a 100 million dead all because we have to live up to democracy to this extent? No, if you want pure democracy/freedom, then there wouldn't be any laws at all would there?
Hypocrite, Hypocrite, I say FOOL and not me either! Go and do one pal!
I'l add this, Its the far right that would repeat what Hitler did and you have a problem with me?
No wonder we ended up going to war with iraq thought I've noticed your not living in mainland Britiain.
To easy to fool people because theirs too many fools out their! :mad:
They made a choice that they were entitled to make. It was the wrong choice but that's not the point....banning extremist parties stands against democratic values.
If the people vote for the wrong parties then they suffer the consequences. It's for the people to decide.
They made the wrong choice, yes that right, so that means jack1 was wrong that people always make the right choice under democracy doesn't it?! :rolleyes:
More concerend about allowing far right people to use democracy even though you know they would end it completely if given the chance and would go a lot futher and I'm the bad guy, yeah riiiggghhhtttt! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
For those of you who need things spelling out, I've heard former members of the far right talk about what they would do if they got the chance, " either the ethnic minorities leave Britain voluntary or we would be quite prepared to push them off the pier".
Yup, we must have democracy for the far right for them to carry out ethnic cleansing, err no!! :rolleyes:
So what would be democratic about banning these extremist parties?
As soon as these people got any significant share of votes it would hopefully result in those against these parties voting for less extreme parties in future elections. The Nazi party didn't win in their first election.
And...if after that the 'wrong' party did win an election I'd be out of the UK voluntarily as it would mean that I obviously don't understand the people in my own country!
Rightly or wrongly it's for the people to decide on who they want to vote for.
Yes, Hitler banned democratic paties and you also want to start banning political parties.
The BNP will never get into power anyway you buffoon. And you can take that from someone who has devoted their entire university dissertation to studying far-right movements. Know it all.
And no I didn't have to come from any specific country to research the subject.
Stop crying. You're like a little brat. Wa, wa, wa. I've had more academic conversations with my 16 year old brother. Don't get "mad" again.
Sorry, but your debating skills are non-existent, as that last post was a load of tripe. Only way I can describe it. FIrstly what has the Iraq war got to do with what I said?
What has the Iraq war got to do with the far-right, Hitler, and Nazis? And why is my location significant with something unrelated to this topic? :rolleyes:
Also can I just add - if you're going to get serious and start banging at your keyboard because you disagree with someone at least bother to use proper grammar. Moron.
Don't get mad again? Up to me on that one.
I don't give credence that the far right are political parties. Its aguise for them to start doing what Hitler done inc killings/ethnic cleansing.
In India, the far right got into power their between 98-2004, they where threatning invasion of Pakistan, until Pakistan went nuclear and they shut up, and then their supporters started killing muslms in Gujarat and it resulted in tit for tat killings but it was the far right that started it.
If it wasn't for the fact that the muslims had been living in India for centuries and hadn't migrated in, then that far right gov would have expelled them for sure too.
I'l leave that for you to chew on and I'm not sure I'l bother responding to other posts on here, I've made the key points and I can't beleive you'd allow the far right to USE the system to do a repeat of what Hitler with regard to ethnic cleansing. The far rigth don't ever deserve a platform again, no way.
In what way was the German Empire under Hitler any different from the British Empire? Both invaded any country they liked, and both committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.
You obviously know nothing as the whole basis of your argument is Nick Griffin suddenly turning into a Hitler shrewd like character that will abuse the British democratic process to get into power.
Completely forgetting he didn't win a seat and his parties share of the vote dropped in the last election. :yawn:
So because you think the BNP would become a dictatorship they aren't a political party? They are a political party...just like the Nazis, Communists and any other dictatorship.
If they have policies on ethnic cleansing etc. it's still a policy which makes them a political party.
I understand what you're saying but surely you must understand the point I am trying to make even if you don't agree with it?
And, for the record...I vote Lib Dem!
Ethnic cleansing under the British colonialism days?
Bit more details please.
Empire was bad but not as bad as Hitler. Hitler wanted to rule Europe and create an arian race, Britain wanted the fruits/loot on invading and colonising countries.
If they ever put pen to paper on their real intentions they would be banned, thats the whole point, they are playing the system. Thanks for making the point that made me realise to put the point that way. ( Right deal, c'mon answer this point.)
Theirs no way the far right could stand on a policy of ethnic cleansing and not get banned, I repeat the far right, they are playing the system
Extreme muslim groups have been banned and rightly so imo, whats your views on that? Anjum Chowdery and his groups? He's been banned about 2 or 3 times.
So why did the British kill hundreds of thousands of Native Americans? The Spanish didn't do this, which explains the native majority in S America and the white majority in N America.
I've never studied or been tought in detail aboit Native Americans so cannot respond really. Only heard anecdotal things, very anecdotal.
Unfortunately, American history was an A level subject I believe, definetly didn't come up during the ages of 11-16.
I think if extreme Muslim groups wanted to set up a political party then they should also be allowed to do so.
IIRC Anjum Chowdery and Islam4UK were not an actual party? I might be wrong there.
When it comes to citizens though, which these would have been, then they need to stay within the laws of the country.
And ethnic cleaninsing is illegal and the far right would be banned if they stood on policies like that, so thats why they are trying to play the system, get in and then you will see the real "policies" of the far right.
What evidence do you have that the BNP actually want to ethnically cleanse?