I hope he wasn't raped in jail, a lot of things happen it jail, it doesn't always have to come back to rape. I don't know why this forum is obsessed with characters raping others or characters being raped...it's shocking and a bit...you know?:o
It's been implied a lot. This is one time that I think posters are right with this subject.
I hope he wasn't raped in jail, a lot of things happen it jail, it doesn't always have to come back to rape. I don't know why this forum is obsessed with characters raping others or characters being raped...it's shocking and a bit...you know?:o
I think something of the kind WAS supposed to have happened to him wasn't it?
I remember when he first came out of jail, years ago, Shirley asked him what had happened to him while he was inside and he just said, very ominously, "Everything!....."
It's been implied a lot. This is one time that I think posters are right with this subject.
I agree. There is a lot of talk about rape on DS, most of which has very little root cause to back it up in screen but Dean having been rapeed in prison has been very clearly implied (although not explicitly stated) on screen several time - both before he left in 2008 and when he first got back this year so posters are just discussing a legitimate part of the plot and character here.
I do think it could go as far as Dean raping Linda (though I hope it doesn(). Despit his good looks, Dean was never especially successful with women (Chelsea never wanted him, this girlfriend that cheated on him) and that along with his feelings about Shirley plus what happened in Prison (rape or not it has clearly damaged him) seems to have given him a very dark mindset and attitude to women so it's possible.
Also, even baack when he was nice he spiked Dtscey's drink so help her have ' a good time'. No he didn't rape her and i'm sure never intended to but it was a very dodgy thing to do morally.
I do think it could go as far as Dean raping Linda (though I hope it doesn(). Despit his good looks, Dean was never especially successful with women (Chelsea never wanted him, this girlfriend that cheated on him) and that along with his feelings about Shirley plus what happened in Prison (rape or not it has clearly damaged him) seems to have given him a very dark mindset and attitude to women so it's possible.
I agree. I think it's very clever to characterise someone as obviously good looking as Dean in this way. It's that idea that women are able to sense something is not quite right about him even though he's good looking and well spoken and quite charming. There was that slightly odd scene in Tuesday's episode where Whitney and Nancy were discussing whether he was a '10' or not, and Whitney seemed hesitant. I can see Dean gradually growing a real resentment towards women as this storyline goes on. I don't personally feel he's capable of rape, but extreme loathing and bitterness towards a woman, I think he's more than likely to display that at some point.
obsession but from Deans point of view - if that makes sense
he has already said he wishes she was mum - would he really rape someone he wishes were his mum...........
Agreed. Don't go putting that idea out, next will be the suggestion of him raping or hurting his real mum and then maybe he may go for Mick too. He will be the new Derek...sorry I just can't get over the alarming amount of potential rape threads I've read since joining DS.
obsession but from Deans point of view - if that makes sense
he has already said he wishes she was mum - would he really rape someone he wishes were his mum...........
Well considering he's touching her inappropriately at the Blades photoshoot next week, I think we're in for a whole heap of weird creepy Oedipal vibes when it comes to Dean's feelings for Linda.
This storyline, whatever happens, is so interesting. I hope it will focus more on Dean's state of mind than Linda - I hope Linda is just being used in the storyline to emphasise how messed up Dean is.
At least this time it appears the story might be heading in that direction.
I personally hope this is what happens purely because Kellie Bright will show everyone what an amazing actress she is and up until now she has been very underused at the expense of the other family members. Perhaps for this very reason.
I'm not too bothered about what happens to Dean. I always thought he was here for one story and one story alone. I'm finding it hard to sympathise with him anyway but if he rapes her then I won't be interested in him at all. I mean
Agreed. Don't go putting that idea out, next will be the suggestion of him raping or hurting his real mum and then maybe he may go for Mick too. He will be the new Derek...sorry I just can't get over the alarming amount of potential rape threads I've read since joining DS.
agreed another one has just been started - is Lee raping Lucy on the night she died the secret he is hiding
Seriously? I wish someone would explain where this rape obsession has come from, slightly concerning!
I think it's because it's one of soaps last real tabboos... The last rape on the soaps I watch was Carla, and I thought the aftermath of that was handled pretty poorly.
As much as I don't want rape to happen on soaps every week, and I certainly don't tune into soaps to see horrific story lines for the sake of it... We have a serial killer a year at this point, murders galore and constant thefts and assaults. Rape is still a really serious problem in this country in terms of justice - the prosecution rate is frankly disgusting, but soaps just don't really handle it all that well.
If they do go down this route, I really hope they handle it respectfully, honestly and with some proper thought for aftermath and not just for the 'shock factor' ratings
I agree. I think it's very clever to characterise someone as obviously good looking as Dean in this way. It's that idea that women are able to sense something is not quite right about him even though he's good looking and well spoken and quite charming. There was that slightly odd scene in Tuesday's episode where Whitney and Nancy were discussing whether he was a '10' or not, and Whitney seemed hesitant. I can see Dean gradually growing a real resentment towards women as this storyline goes on. I don't personally feel he's capable of rape, but extreme loathing and bitterness towards a woman, I think he's more than likely to display that at some point.
That would be more interesting than a rape which I feel soaps just do for morbid shock value. On a related note I hate that EE had 4 Slater girls raped or sexually manipulated - just way too much.
It's the only storyline I am interested on EE at the moment but I don't think it will go as far as him raping her. EE has had far too much of that in the past, imo.
From Dean's expressions and the way the camera always looks at Dean's reaction, I think this storyline is more to do with his mental state. I can see him heading towards of breakdown.
I'm thinking rape too. Consensus seems to be that the whole Janine/Kat/Stacey thing was done to get the show's leading ladies involved in the same storyline. What better way to do it again than have Linda raped and Kat and Stacey brought in because of their experiences. Kat even more so if Linda gets pregnant.
Shirley could believe that Dean wouldn't do something like that because she doesn't like Linda, or choose to side with Dean as she thinks he's the only son that she has a chance of reconciling with.
Perhaps the whole "Linda wants another baby thing" could in some way foreshadow Linda becoming pregnant again. However, unfortunately following her being raped by Dean.
I'm not quite sure whether EastEnders would go down that route though. It's incredibly dark, and would be very difficult to watch.
Your right about it being dark.. but I hope they do.. its something new.. different.. even though little mo had the same thing.. but it would be a lot different because dean is a family member.. but would be realistic because most sexual assaults are someone known to the victim.. infact I don't think iv seen a soap do this before.. really think it would help ee get back on top.. Oh I hope this happends would be fantastic ee would pull it of
The thing is I feel deans attraction is purely stemming from the fact Linda is the mum he never had . I have a feeling she will tell mick about the bottom grabbing and it will be laughed of by him therefore linda will feel she is being silly .
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It's been implied a lot. This is one time that I think posters are right with this subject.
I think something of the kind WAS supposed to have happened to him wasn't it?
I remember when he first came out of jail, years ago, Shirley asked him what had happened to him while he was inside and he just said, very ominously, "Everything!....."
Linda will reject him, he will drug her, tie her to his barber's chair and shave her head in revenge.
I agree. There is a lot of talk about rape on DS, most of which has very little root cause to back it up in screen but Dean having been rapeed in prison has been very clearly implied (although not explicitly stated) on screen several time - both before he left in 2008 and when he first got back this year so posters are just discussing a legitimate part of the plot and character here.
I do think it could go as far as Dean raping Linda (though I hope it doesn(). Despit his good looks, Dean was never especially successful with women (Chelsea never wanted him, this girlfriend that cheated on him) and that along with his feelings about Shirley plus what happened in Prison (rape or not it has clearly damaged him) seems to have given him a very dark mindset and attitude to women so it's possible.
Haha. That's brilliant.
I agree. I think it's very clever to characterise someone as obviously good looking as Dean in this way. It's that idea that women are able to sense something is not quite right about him even though he's good looking and well spoken and quite charming. There was that slightly odd scene in Tuesday's episode where Whitney and Nancy were discussing whether he was a '10' or not, and Whitney seemed hesitant. I can see Dean gradually growing a real resentment towards women as this storyline goes on. I don't personally feel he's capable of rape, but extreme loathing and bitterness towards a woman, I think he's more than likely to display that at some point.
he has already said he wishes she was mum - would he really rape someone he wishes were his mum...........
Agreed. Don't go putting that idea out, next will be the suggestion of him raping or hurting his real mum and then maybe he may go for Mick too. He will be the new Derek...sorry I just can't get over the alarming amount of potential rape threads I've read since joining DS.
At least this time it appears the story might be heading in that direction.
I personally hope this is what happens purely because Kellie Bright will show everyone what an amazing actress she is and up until now she has been very underused at the expense of the other family members. Perhaps for this very reason.
I'm not too bothered about what happens to Dean. I always thought he was here for one story and one story alone. I'm finding it hard to sympathise with him anyway but if he rapes her then I won't be interested in him at all. I mean
agreed
Seriously?
I think it's because it's one of soaps last real tabboos... The last rape on the soaps I watch was Carla, and I thought the aftermath of that was handled pretty poorly.
As much as I don't want rape to happen on soaps every week, and I certainly don't tune into soaps to see horrific story lines for the sake of it... We have a serial killer a year at this point, murders galore and constant thefts and assaults. Rape is still a really serious problem in this country in terms of justice - the prosecution rate is frankly disgusting, but soaps just don't really handle it all that well.
If they do go down this route, I really hope they handle it respectfully, honestly and with some proper thought for aftermath and not just for the 'shock factor' ratings
That would be more interesting than a rape which I feel soaps just do for morbid shock value. On a related note I hate that EE had 4 Slater girls raped or sexually manipulated - just way too much.
Shirley could believe that Dean wouldn't do something like that because she doesn't like Linda, or choose to side with Dean as she thinks he's the only son that she has a chance of reconciling with.
Your right about it being dark.. but I hope they do.. its something new.. different.. even though little mo had the same thing.. but it would be a lot different because dean is a family member.. but would be realistic because most sexual assaults are someone known to the victim.. infact I don't think iv seen a soap do this before.. really think it would help ee get back on top.. Oh I hope this happends would be fantastic ee would pull it of