loved the episode - I assumed the end was Strange handing over the notebook now he's a Mason, maybe that's why he became Morse's boss in the end, can't wait for next week
That would imply that Strange took the notebook at the scene of the crime. But wasn't he asking Morse if he should join after that event?
Perhaps it was part of the initiation to perform an act to prove himself. But if so, why tell Morse about the lodge just after he took evidence from a crime scene where Morse was present?
I may have got this wrong but did he write to his wife in the guise of his commanding officer. If so wouldn't his wife have recognised his handwriting ?
I might be wrong but didn't they marry after the war and he had assumed the other man's identity?
I thought the ID swop plot was completely stupid. Okay, maybe if he had immediately left the country, or at least lived in seclusion, but head of a big successful company, with a wife running for parliament - surely he would run into people who had known the real Archie Batten the whole time!
I thought this, too.
What were the chances that someone could get through the rest of the war, get repatriated and demobbed without ever meeting someone who knew either Spurling or Batten? And what about Batten's family - how come they never made a fuss when someone who would have been recorded as having been demobbed never showed up?
Obviously it's not totally inconceivable, but, as with so many plots in so many programmes, the problem is that Spurling would have had to rely on this very unusual train of events. He'd have been in very serious trouble if he'd been caught and (given that he could not resume the real Batten's life) the risk would have been for very little reward,
Did you notice that Kitty was played by Jessie Buckley who came second in the search for Nancy in Oliver? I spent ages trying to think where I had seen her and eventually resorted to looking at the cast list in the RT!
The best thing on the telly at the moment this is.
A bit of trivia I noticed, the Lincoln Continental was registered in Sheffield. I'm not sure there were that many of them about in Sheffield in the 60s according to my father in law
I enjoyed this but found it confusing, too many sub plots and suspects, it needed trimming a bit, what had the university professor done? who was the bloke at the end who had done the head bashing??
I enjoyed this but found it confusing, too many sub plots and suspects, it needed trimming a bit, what had the university professor done? who was the bloke at the end who had done the head bashing??
Your're confused? So am I. I can never follow these plots unless I make copious notes, which I don't anymore. Perhaps we're dullards unlike the rest here, it appeas.
I'm not too enamoured by Shaun Edwards either - he's good but nothing special, in my opinon.
I have always found, since Morse started then Lewis etc. the plots and the programme to be too long and complicated. I would rather my viewing of such programmes required less brain power, which obviously is lacking nowadays.
Thank you for that; it's very much appreciated. I woke during the night with it still going round in my head. It's such sad music ( mind you it will be won't it if it's from his 'Requiem').
You might be referring to Brahms' A German Requiem which was at the beginning and end. I was pleased when I heard it as it's one of my favourite classical works.
Another fab episode - Shaun Evans as awesome as ever as Morse.
And thank you as well lostprophet. I should have known it was something to do with death as whenever I've heard it (not often) a deep sadness comes over me.
I enjoyed this but found it confusing, too many sub plots and suspects, it needed trimming a bit, what had the university professor done? who was the bloke at the end who had done the head bashing??
So glad I wasn't the only one I got completely confused towards the end:(>:(
Shaun Evans honours the memory of John Thaw with his amazing performance as Morse.
I thought Shaun Evans was outstanding, but he never fails to impress..in my opinion.
I was disappointed in the episode itself, the plot was convoluted and unconvincing. Unless my memories are playing tricks on me, I'm sure the old Morse episodes were more believable ? I like a puzzle to solve, that was always one of the attractions of the original Morse, but this was a bit of a mess.
My O/H and I have just watched Sunday's episode , and great it was too. However, we were both mystified about the notebook that went missing. I couldn't understand what had happened to it, but the O/H reckoned it was whatever was pushed over with gloved hands right at the end. Was it?
My O/H and I have just watched Sunday's episode , and great it was too. However, we were both mystified about the notebook that went missing. I couldn't understand what had happened to it, but the O/H reckoned it was whatever was pushed over with gloved hands right at the end. Was it?
Yes, I think that's what it was meant to indicate. In other words, the corruption continues right up to the top and there's probably nothing anyone can do about it.
Yes, I think that's what it was meant to indicate. In other words, the corruption continues right up to the top and there's probably nothing anyone can do about it.
Thanks Richmond. The O/H will be pleased he was right.
Anton Lesser looks really like an old bloke in this. He's about early 60s I think but normally looks quite young for his age. He looks like my grandad! People probably did look old then in the 60s.
My problem is I can never remember what happened in the old series. For example, can only vaguely remember him being shot and I can't for the life of me remember his love interest. Was he hung up on an opera singer and did something happen at the opera? It might have something to do with the fact I never watched Morse (too young).
Did you notice that Kitty was played by Jessie Buckley who came second in the search for Nancy in Oliver? I spent ages trying to think where I had seen her and eventually resorted to looking at the cast list in the RT!
Indeed she was. I can guess how she got the role too. She starred with Roger Allam in last year's production of The Tempest at the Globe theatre in London. And very good she was too.
I am a devotee of Endeavour and Lewis, but curiously have seen very little of Morse and am not aware of any of the little nods to the future. I did notice though that the girl who had been murdered was named Frida Yelland. There was a professor Yelland (played by David Soul) in one of the later Lewis episodes. Is there supposed to be some connection there, or has the writer simply run out of character names?
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That would imply that Strange took the notebook at the scene of the crime. But wasn't he asking Morse if he should join after that event?
Perhaps it was part of the initiation to perform an act to prove himself. But if so, why tell Morse about the lodge just after he took evidence from a crime scene where Morse was present?
I might be wrong but didn't they marry after the war and he had assumed the other man's identity?
That was a different wife.
I thought this, too.
What were the chances that someone could get through the rest of the war, get repatriated and demobbed without ever meeting someone who knew either Spurling or Batten? And what about Batten's family - how come they never made a fuss when someone who would have been recorded as having been demobbed never showed up?
Obviously it's not totally inconceivable, but, as with so many plots in so many programmes, the problem is that Spurling would have had to rely on this very unusual train of events. He'd have been in very serious trouble if he'd been caught and (given that he could not resume the real Batten's life) the risk would have been for very little reward,
A bit of trivia I noticed, the Lincoln Continental was registered in Sheffield. I'm not sure there were that many of them about in Sheffield in the 60s according to my father in law
I recognised him from an episode of New Tricks.
Shaun Evans honours the memory of John Thaw with his amazing performance as Morse.
Your're confused? So am I. I can never follow these plots unless I make copious notes, which I don't anymore. Perhaps we're dullards unlike the rest here, it appeas.
I'm not too enamoured by Shaun Edwards either - he's good but nothing special, in my opinon.
I have always found, since Morse started then Lewis etc. the plots and the programme to be too long and complicated. I would rather my viewing of such programmes required less brain power, which obviously is lacking nowadays.
Think the cast is great though, will watch next week.
Thank you for that; it's very much appreciated. I woke during the night with it still going round in my head. It's such sad music ( mind you it will be won't it if it's from his 'Requiem').
And thank you as well lostprophet. I should have known it was something to do with death as whenever I've heard it (not often) a deep sadness comes over me.
So glad I wasn't the only one I got completely confused towards the end:(>:(
I thought Shaun Evans was outstanding, but he never fails to impress..in my opinion.
I was disappointed in the episode itself, the plot was convoluted and unconvincing. Unless my memories are playing tricks on me, I'm sure the old Morse episodes were more believable ? I like a puzzle to solve, that was always one of the attractions of the original Morse, but this was a bit of a mess.
Yes, I think that's what it was meant to indicate. In other words, the corruption continues right up to the top and there's probably nothing anyone can do about it.
Thanks Richmond. The O/H will be pleased he was right.
Indeed she was. I can guess how she got the role too. She starred with Roger Allam in last year's production of The Tempest at the Globe theatre in London. And very good she was too.
I am a devotee of Endeavour and Lewis, but curiously have seen very little of Morse and am not aware of any of the little nods to the future. I did notice though that the girl who had been murdered was named Frida Yelland. There was a professor Yelland (played by David Soul) in one of the later Lewis episodes. Is there supposed to be some connection there, or has the writer simply run out of character names?