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How long will Microsoft keep the Nokia brand? Not that long by the looks of it...

Everything GoesEverything Goes Posts: 12,972
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Microsoft may not keep the Nokia brand much longer it seems.

Microsoft is permitted to continue using the Nokia brand on Lumia devices for 18 months from the closing date of the acquisition i.e. through to November 25 2015; on Nokia X devices until December 31 2015; and on other mobile phones until April 25 2024. However, what is worth noting on this documentation, under ‘Strategy & planning’, is where it states: “Microsoft brand will only replace the Nokia brand in product, applications and experiences when Microsoft has launched a new product into the market.” The language is not explicit, but it suggests that Microsoft plans to start using its own brand on new devices sooner than the trademark licenses for the Nokia brand expire, perhaps even on the next handset that it launches. This makes sense, given that the company would not reasonably wait until the day that the Nokia trademark licence expires to make that change.

http://www.neowin.net/news/leaked-document-reveals-branding-implications-for-microsofts-nokia-acquisition

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    finbaarfinbaar Posts: 4,818
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    I will admit to not getting the love for Nokia but many people do feel it or at least have felt it. As Microsoft do not have any reputation for hardware they risk losing goodwill. They perhaps should have used both names but really pushed the Lumia brand into peoples minds. Maybe make all their hardware Lumia.
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    !!11oneone!!11oneone Posts: 4,098
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    The best thing to do would keep launching as Nokia Lumia, then quietly drop the Nokia bit.
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    ash45ash45 Posts: 368
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    !!11oneone wrote: »
    The best thing to do would keep launching as Nokia Lumia, then quietly drop the Nokia bit.

    i agree with you that sort of like sony did with ericsson and the xperia line of phones eventually just dropped the ericsson part when the sony/ericsson partership stopped but kept the xperia part

    Ash
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    Everything GoesEverything Goes Posts: 12,972
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    The end is neigh! The Nokia and Windows Phone brands will cop it before Christmas!

    Microsoft is planning to stop using the Nokia and Windows Phone brands this holiday season in its marketing materials. GeeksOnGadgets has obtained an internal Microsoft document that details the company's guidelines for its own brands, and The Verge can confirm the material is authentic and accurate. "As part of our phased transition, we will drop the manufacturer name [Nokia] from product references during the Holiday campaign," reads one of the slides. Microsoft is also planning not to use the Windows Phone logo in promotions and commercials, instead it will be replaced with just Windows.

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/10/6131695/microsoft-is-killing-the-nokia-and-windows-phone-brands
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    Everything GoesEverything Goes Posts: 12,972
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    So it begins....


    Microsoft started dropping hints about its plans to kill off the Nokia and Windows Phone brands last month, and now the company is ready to make it official. Microsoft Lumia is the new brand name that takes the place of Nokia for the software maker. The name change follows a slow transition from Nokia.com over to Microsoft's new mobile site, and Nokia France will be the first of many countries that adopt "Microsoft Lumia" for its Facebook, Twitter, and other social media accounts. Microsoft has confirmed to The Verge that other countries will follow the rebranding steps in the coming weeks.

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/21/7026427/microsoft-lumia-nokia-brand-replacement
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    david16david16 Posts: 14,821
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    Will the OVI store remain, if rebranded?

    It would be shocking if you can't download updates to an S40 handset any longer.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 101
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    They should just keep nokia brand and try using old phones designs eg 3310 into new designs in a shape of smartfones with bigger screen.
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    david16david16 Posts: 14,821
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    Microsoft have certainly wasted no time in shutting down customer's Nokia accounts without giving Nokia phone customers any warning whatsoever.

    Tried to check an e-mail on my Nokia Asha 300 phone yet got Network unavailable.

    A total disgrace really.
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    david16 wrote: »
    Microsoft have certainly wasted no time in shutting down customer's Nokia accounts without giving Nokia phone customers any warning whatsoever.

    Tried to check an e-mail on my Nokia Asha 300 phone yet got Network unavailable.

    A total disgrace really.

    Are you sure it's not an unrelated issue?
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    jabbamk1jabbamk1 Posts: 8,942
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    Microsoft Lumia Smartphone Shipments

    Q3 2014 - 9.3m (+5.7% YOY)
    Q2 2014 - 7.9m (+6.8% YOY)
    Q1 2014 - 7.1m (+26.8% YOY)
    Q4 2013 - 8.2m (+86.4% YOY)
    Q3 2013 - 8.8m (+203% YOY)
    Q2 2013 - 7.4m (+85% YOY)
    Q1 2013 - 5.6m (+179% YOY)

    As you can see, Lumia smartphone shipments started off quite low in 2011 and 2012 with yearly sales of 13.4m in 2012. In 2013 that number increased to 30m and so far in 2014 sales are at 24.3m after 9 months. Growth has slowed and even though sales will be up YOY in 2014, Lumia Windows Phone will be losing more and more market share due to stagnated growth.

    The ASP of the Lumia smartphone brand is $264 per unit in Q3 2014.

    It'll be interesting to see how the Lumia brand grows moving into 2015 and if leadership under Microsoft can cause growth in line with the smartphone industry. The smartphone industry is expected to grow by ~25% this year and Microsoft Lumia is estimated to grow by under 15%. Not good.
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    Everything GoesEverything Goes Posts: 12,972
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    Here is some pictures of the phones without the Nokia branding.

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/24/7056495/microsoft-lumia-replaces-nokia-lumia-official
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    Everything GoesEverything Goes Posts: 12,972
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    More detailed pictures of the Lumia with Microsoft branding. Loos like the RM-1090 will be the first one.

    http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/03/microsoft-rm-1090/
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