I thought the ice was cleaned in every ad break?!?
There are sequin spotter guys who have a quick skate round and pick up anything on the ice. How could they possibly clean the ice every add break? Its a 15 min job to cut the ice wet it and then let it dry off a bit before it can be skated on, add break is NOT long enough.
Neither does Gary. I don't need any posts to prove your point, a simple no, I think it's unfair in either case would have sufficed. I think that there have been weird decision with regards to the performance order including Hayley and Gary in the last few weeks. I don't care which one wins, but I do care if people just concentrate on one contestant. I agree with you that Kieron should be last, or that Daniella should be last, however I would have found your original point "WTF is Hayley doing skating last" more convincing if you had included Gary in this as well.
Why did you say neither does Gary when I've made it clear that I know that? And WHY would I include Gary in my post when he isn't on last? LOL. That makes no sense.
There are sequin spotter guys who have a quick skate round and pick up anything on the ice. How could they possibly clean the ice every add break? Its a 15 min job to cut the ice wet it and then let it dry off a bit before it can be skated on, add break is NOT long enough.
Why did you say neither does Gary when I've made it clear that I know that? And WHY would I include Gary in my post when he isn't on last? LOL. That makes no sense.
Get over the Gary thing, this isn't about him.
Fact is, Hayley should not be last or even close.
Look I agree with you in general. I think no-one should have an advantage in the running order. I just made the point, that Hayley is not the only one being favouritised. I don't know Gary's position, but for all we know he might be second to last (which would be as unfair as Hayley's last position).
The thing is that Hayley is last this week (a perfect reason to criticise the production team), but so was Gary last week despite being towards the end in the previous weeks. If you criticise one, you have to criticise the other. You might have done so with Gary in the past, I don't know as I don't take the time to look at people's previous posts.
I have made it clear that I would think that Kieron and Daniella should be towards the end, not Hayley and Gary.
Look I agree with you in general. I think no-one should have an advantage in the running order. I just made the point, that Hayley is not the only one being favouritised. I don't know Gary's position, but for all we know he might be second to last (which would be as unfair as Hayley's last position).
The thing is that Hayley is last this week (a perfect reason to criticise the production team), but so was Gary last week despite being towards the end in the previous weeks. If you criticise one, you have to criticise the other. You might have done so with Gary in the past, I don't know as I don't take the time to look at people's previous posts.
I have made it clear that I would think that Kieron and Daniella should be towards the end, not Hayley and Gary.
Kieron is second last and hopefully Mikey is fourth, having been on first last week.
And like you said, you haven't taken the time to look at my posts, so you wouldn't know would you? Never mind, I forgive you.
Kieron is second last and hopefully Mikey is fourth, having been on first last week.
And like you said, you haven't taken the time to look at my posts, so you wouldn't know would you? Never mind, I forgive you.
That's very noble of you:p;). However, in my first post, I said "am I right in assuming... etc". I didn't say it was a fact. However, I forgive you for this oversight;):D.
That's very noble of you:p;). However, in my first post, I said "am I right in assuming... etc". I didn't say it was a fact. However, I forgive you for this oversight;):D.
Actually i think you have to look at out of the 6 left Gary, Hayley and Mikey are all in the tour so the producers may just want to keep them in as long as possible. Just my opinion of course.
That might be the case. They went out of their way last week to stress repeatedly that Mikey had a fall. They seemed desperate for him to avoid bottom two when he was in no real danger of being so imo.
The performance order this series has been a lot more unfair than usual.
To Strictly Irish (sorry Internet is playing up): Well I think we overall agree that people shouldn't have preferential treatment:D. I will never assume again.... until I post my next post:p:D:D
I think people might be confusing cause and effect. In this case, I am going to suppose that...
Cause: Hayley is getting the majority of votes AND critical acclaim.
Effect: Hayley is put on last to ensure that the majority of voters stay tuned in.
The effect of the effect, unfortunately, is that the people who already dislike her dislike her more due to perceived unfairness.
You see it on all shows. The vast majority of weeks they close the show with someone who is good and/or popular. They rarely stick on someone who's talentless and unpopular last.
Unless she falls over a couple of times, then they'll give her 5.5's
You mean - unless she is dropped by her partner because of a glitch in the ice, meaning no fault of either skater and therefore shouldn't be docked any points whatsoever....
I think people might be confusing cause and effect. In this case, I am going to suppose that...
Cause: Hayley is getting the majority of votes AND critical acclaim.
Effect: Hayley is put on last to ensure that the majority of voters stay tuned in.
The effect of the effect, unfortunately, is that the people who already dislike her dislike her more due to perceived unfairness.
You see it on all shows. The vast majority of weeks they close the show with someone who is good and/or popular. They rarely stick on someone who's talentless and unpopular last.
Agreed! - the producers don't want to end the show on a damp squib so it stands to reason that they save the best (IMHO) until last.
That said, it would be nice to end the main show with the order draw for the next show (if they make it) - just as long as they don't need another ad break to get to it
Agreed! - the producers don't want to end the show on a damp squib so it stands to reason that they save the best (IMHO) until last.
That said, it would be nice to end the main show with the order draw for the next show (if they make it) - just as long as they don't need another ad break to get to it
They would need 2 ad breaks. Safe and skating 1st next week is.......to be revealed after the break.
so Gary is 4th leaving Daniella 2nd or 3rd what do you want to bet she is 2nd I still think the producers are manipulating it for the ones on the tour to be in the latter stages (Emily being the hiccup) of the show - they would HATE a non tour member in the final for sure
so Gary is 4th leaving Daniella 2nd or 3rd what do you want to bet she is 2nd I still think the producers are manipulating it for the ones on the tour to be in the latter stages (Emily being the hiccup) of the show - they would HATE a non tour member in the final for sure
FFS!!!! He's so dull it's unreal so this is the 4th week in a row Danniella and Danny are on before him...... FIX!!!!
Hope he's in the skate off to get his smug face of my tv! Can't stand him. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
so Gary is 4th leaving Daniella 2nd or 3rd what do you want to bet she is 2nd I still think the producers are manipulating it for the ones on the tour to be in the latter stages (Emily being the hiccup) of the show - they would HATE a non tour member in the final for sure
So- Gary and Hayley near the end again. :rolleyes:
You mean - unless she is dropped by her partner because of a glitch in the ice, meaning no fault of either skater and therefore shouldn't be docked any points whatsoever....
Yeah..I'm sure that's what you meant
It doesn't matter how someone falls over or who's fault it is. It should docked marks AND would have been if it was anyone other than Hayley.
Comments
There are sequin spotter guys who have a quick skate round and pick up anything on the ice. How could they possibly clean the ice every add break? Its a 15 min job to cut the ice wet it and then let it dry off a bit before it can be skated on, add break is NOT long enough.
Why did you say neither does Gary when I've made it clear that I know that? And WHY would I include Gary in my post when he isn't on last? LOL. That makes no sense.
Get over the Gary thing, this isn't about him.
Fact is, Hayley should not be last or even close.
it does get done proplery between main show and skate off though.
Look I agree with you in general. I think no-one should have an advantage in the running order. I just made the point, that Hayley is not the only one being favouritised. I don't know Gary's position, but for all we know he might be second to last (which would be as unfair as Hayley's last position).
The thing is that Hayley is last this week (a perfect reason to criticise the production team), but so was Gary last week despite being towards the end in the previous weeks. If you criticise one, you have to criticise the other. You might have done so with Gary in the past, I don't know as I don't take the time to look at people's previous posts.
I have made it clear that I would think that Kieron and Daniella should be towards the end, not Hayley and Gary.
Kieron is second last and hopefully Mikey is fourth, having been on first last week.
And like you said, you haven't taken the time to look at my posts, so you wouldn't know would you? Never mind, I forgive you.
That's very noble of you:p;). However, in my first post, I said "am I right in assuming... etc". I didn't say it was a fact. However, I forgive you for this oversight;):D.
You still assumed!!
That might be the case. They went out of their way last week to stress repeatedly that Mikey had a fall. They seemed desperate for him to avoid bottom two when he was in no real danger of being so imo.
The performance order this series has been a lot more unfair than usual.
In the last 3 weeks Danniella has been 1st then 3rd then 2nd.
Gary has been last twice and second last so he better be on early.
Hayley last. :rolleyes: Wouldn't be surprised to see 6.0's. :rolleyes:
i hope so, bring on the 6.0's
Unless she falls over a couple of times, then they'll give her 5.5's
Cause: Hayley is getting the majority of votes AND critical acclaim.
Effect: Hayley is put on last to ensure that the majority of voters stay tuned in.
The effect of the effect, unfortunately, is that the people who already dislike her dislike her more due to perceived unfairness.
You see it on all shows. The vast majority of weeks they close the show with someone who is good and/or popular. They rarely stick on someone who's talentless and unpopular last.
You mean - unless she is dropped by her partner because of a glitch in the ice, meaning no fault of either skater and therefore shouldn't be docked any points whatsoever....
Yeah..I'm sure that's what you meant
Agreed! - the producers don't want to end the show on a damp squib so it stands to reason that they save the best (IMHO) until last.
That said, it would be nice to end the main show with the order draw for the next show (if they make it) - just as long as they don't need another ad break to get to it
They would need 2 ad breaks. Safe and skating 1st next week is.......to be revealed after the break.
FFS!!!! He's so dull it's unreal so this is the 4th week in a row Danniella and Danny are on before him...... FIX!!!!
Hope he's in the skate off to get his smug face of my tv! Can't stand him. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
I don't feel as strongly as you, but I certainly would not lose any sleep if he were to be voted off tonight.
So- Gary and Hayley near the end again. :rolleyes:
He was also on early every week......
It doesn't matter how someone falls over or who's fault it is. It should docked marks AND would have been if it was anyone other than Hayley.
Hayley DID have marks taken off for the fall:rolleyes: