I'm not sure who Ste would be more angry with, though, with the money.
Doug, for going behind his back and not telling him (especially if they were together), or Brendan.
Part of me thinks Brendan, cos eventually he would work out the only reason Brendan told him was to split them up. I think he would forgive Doug, though. It'd be trickier with Brendan because Brendan's done worse to him in the past before this.
Part of me thinks Brendan, cos eventually he would work out the only reason Brendan told him was to split them up. I think he would forgive Doug, though. It'd be trickier with Brendan because Brendan's done worse to him in the past before this.
It depends, I guess. Brendan because of the reasons you've said, but Doug if he falls madly in love with him.
I'm not sure who Ste would be more angry with, though, with the money.
Doug, for going behind his back and not telling him (especially if they were together), or Brendan.
Part of me thinks Brendan, cos eventually he would work out the only reason Brendan told him was to split them up. I think he would forgive Doug, though. It'd be trickier with Brendan because Brendan's done worse to him in the past before this.
I guess it literally does depend on what Brendan does between now and then. If he just leaves them to it, lets Doug and Ste run the business and not get Doug to do anything, takes repayments of the money and thats that then probably Doug if Im honest because whilst Brendan did invest the money he hasnt done anything else to control the business.
Whereas Doug has gone out of his way to lie to him and he is someone he thought he could trust as opposed to Brendan who isnt.
I'm not sure who Ste would be more angry with, though, with the money.
Doug, for going behind his back and not telling him (especially if they were together), or Brendan.
Part of me thinks Brendan, cos eventually he would work out the only reason Brendan told him was to split them up. I think he would forgive Doug, though. It'd be trickier with Brendan because Brendan's done worse to him in the past before this.
I didn't even think of that, but that really isn't going to end well is it?
I think he'll be pissed at both of them for a while and like you said, forgive Doug first, or maybe this leads to the end of the Stug relationship or something? Then maybe they can be friends again later on down the line.
I really have no idea what direction they are taking the show in any more. The list of possible out comes is endless really.
It depends, I guess. Brendan because of the reasons you've said, but Doug if he falls madly in love with him.
One thing I do really worry about, is that they can't afford to have Brendan make Ste even more miserable. I mean, he hit him, then he split Ste and his boyfriend up, then he broke his heart all over again, then hit him, and now is probably gonna try split Ste and his new boyfriend up.
I know it's who Brendan is, and he does things without thinking, but they just can't keep doing it. It won't do them no favours, making Ste hate him even more.
One thing I do really worry about, is that they can't afford to have Brendan make Ste even more miserable. I mean, he hit him, then he split Ste and his boyfriend up, then he broke his heart all over again, then hit him, and now is probably gonna try split Ste and his new boyfriend up.
I know it's who Brendan is, and he does things without thinking, but they just can't keep doing it. It won't do them no favours, making Ste hate him even more.
That's why I think Brendan's reaction may surprise us. I think this could really throw him, if he wasn't expecting it and he sees Doug as a feasible threat.
If he keeps going around ranting and raving, scheming and threatening everyone in Ste's life, he's not going to get anywhere and nor is the storyline or his redemption in Ste's eyes.
That's why I think Brendan's reaction may surprise us. I think this could really throw him, if he wasn't expecting it and he sees Doug as a feasible threat.
I really wouldnt expect it, not inititally anyway. I think as someone pointed out last week gave us the biggest foreboding when Brendan told Doug he didnt like people who took what was his. So inititally he is going to flip and probably make Ste hate him more.
After that of course if Ste forgives Doug then maybe but by then the damage would no doubt have been done really.
One thing I do really worry about, is that they can't afford to have Brendan make Ste even more miserable. I mean, he hit him, then he split Ste and his boyfriend up, then he broke his heart all over again, then hit him, and now is probably gonna try split Ste and his new boyfriend up.
I know it's who Brendan is, and he does things without thinking, but they just can't keep doing it. It won't do them no favours, making Ste hate him even more.
That's the thing - there's only so much Ste and us Stendan shippers can take. If he continues being a villain and constantly destroying Ste's happiness, then how are we going to believe that Ste will want him back? Especially in comparison to Doug.
I forgot to mention the closeness to the Texie storyline in my post - it's that which makes me think that Doug is going to be bi or gay rather than just confused.
Both storylines have some resonance to me because although I have never admitted this to anyone before, I did go through a period where I wondered if I was bi last year. I won't go into details but it was a very confusing time and it made me question a lot of things - whether I was really attracted to men or if I just thought I was because I was in denial. Ultimately I came to the conclusion that even though I am...curious about women on some level, at the end of the day I just don't want to have sex with one! Although I outwardly identify as straight, personally I've decided that sexuality isn't as rigid as three separate terms for some people, and I've been a lot more at ease since realising that. So even though mine wasn't really a "one person" case like Jodie was for Texas, I was actually really glad they did that storyline, despite what some people said about it.
That's the thing - there's only so much Ste and us Stendan shippers can take. If he continues being a villain and constantly destroying Ste's happiness, then how are we going to believe that Ste will want him back? Especially in comparison to Doug.
Yeah, exactly. Him carrying on trying to ruin things for Ste, how are they suppoed to expect us to even want Ste and him together?
I dunno. As I've said, I like the idea of Stug, but I just worry about what it means for Ste/Brendan.
That's the thing - there's only so much Ste and us Stendan shippers can take. If he continues being a villain and constantly destroying Ste's happiness, then how are we going to believe that Ste will want him back? Especially in comparison to Doug.
Depends what relationship you ship I guess.
I want Brendan to stop hitting Ste, thats my only wish and need for it. What Im saying is Im fully prepared for Ste to get happiness with Brendan, hes the love of his life but at the same time that choice of being with Brendan will also bring alot of misery to Ste at the same time because Brendan will never be the ideal boyfriend. Hes too flawed for that so at times he will make him miserable as sin too.
I forgot to mention the closeness to the Texie storyline in my post - it's that which makes me think that Doug is going to be bi or gay rather than just confused.
Both storylines have some resonance to me because although I have never admitted this to anyone before, I did go through a period where I wondered if I was bi last year. I won't go into details but it was a very confusing time and it made me question a lot of things - whether I was really attracted to men or if I just thought I was because I was in denial. Ultimately I came to the conclusion that even though I am...curious women on some level, at the end of the day I just don't want to have sex with one! Although I outwardly identify as straight, personally I've decided that sexuality isn't as rigid as three separate terms for some people, and I've been a lot more at ease since realising that. So even though mine wasn't really a "one person" case like Jodie was for Texas, I was actually really glad they did that storyline, despite what some people said about it.
Thanks for sharing that with us, it's interesting!
I thought Texas/Jodie was more about bisexuality than Texas only liking Jodie. Unless they're never going to revisit that avenue.
I agree that sexuality isn't black and white. But I find it a bit hard to believe that this is happening with Doug.
I want Brendan to stop hitting Ste, thats my only wish and need for it. What Im saying is Im fully prepared for Ste to get happiness with Brendan, hes the love of his life but at the same time that choice of being with Brendan will also bring alot of misery to Ste at the same time because Brendan will never be the ideal boyfriend. Hes too flawed for that so at times he will make him miserable as sin too.
I've never thought their relationship should be perfect - I expect jealousy and control. They wouldn't be them if they weren't like that. But I don't want Ste to be miserable at times when they're together. Sad and frustrated maybe, as it's realistic - but not miserable. But my main thing is also for the hitting to stop.
I do wander whether Ste will return his affections. Maybe not. Because, as we've recognised with the both being bottom fiasco, is Doug really his type??
I wander what this opens up in terms of storyline if Ste doesn't respond to his advances.
I do wander whether Ste will return his affections. Maybe not. Because, as we've recognised with the both being bottom fiasco, is Doug really his type??
I wander what this opens up in terms of storyline if Ste doesn't respond to his advances.
He's a man, interested in Ste. He's his type, for sure.
Plus I'd be annoyed if he wasn't, after bloody Noah.
Thanks for sharing that with us, it's interesting!
I thought Texas/Jodie was more about bisexuality than Texas only liking Jodie. Unless they're never going to revisit that avenue.
I agree that sexuality isn't black and white. But I find it a bit hard to believe that this is happening with Doug.
Sorry, I didn't phrase that well - I meant it wasn't meeting one person that made me start to question things, whilst with Texas Jodie was very much the catalyst.
I'm not sure where that storyline is going, but I liked that they didn't just make it a black and white declaration that Texas is now bi or a lesbian.
I do wander whether Ste will return his affections. Maybe not. Because, as we've recognised with the both being bottom fiasco, is Doug really his type??
I wander what this opens up in terms of storyline if Ste doesn't respond to his advances.
I reckon he's his type. Ste seems to go for quite a wide range of men. I guess he wants someone who treats him right and who he has a bit of banter with, and that applies to Doug.
Maybe they'll go down the unrequited love route with Doug if Ste doesn't respond, and then pair him with someone else?
People are already shipping Stug, so yeah, it'll be very .. hard to be online sometimes, I think.
I guess it depends how much they start to ship them - if it's like during the JP/Craig era, where there were a lot of hardcore, passionate JP/Kieron shippers.
Sorry, I didn't phrase that well - I meant it wasn't meeting one person that made me start to question things, whilst with Texas Jodie was very much the catalyst.
I'm not sure where that storyline is going, but I liked that they didn't just make it a black and white declaration that Texas is now bi or a lesbian.
Ah, I see! Yes, I know what you mean. Same for Craig and Sarah, really.
Me too. Sometimes it's not good to put labels on things.
People are already shipping Stug, so yeah, it'll be very .. hard to be online sometimes, I think.
He's a man, interested in Ste. He's his type, for sure.
Plus I'd be annoyed if he wasn't, after bloody Noah.
Haha, true! Although we could argue that Noah was a desperate rebound, and Ste's more self-assured, confident and aware of his attractiveness since Disneyland sassed him up.
And yes, there will definitely be strong Team-Stugs and strong Team-Stendans. I imagine it will become a proper big online war. Exactly what HO wants, which is why - in terms of fan investment - Doug was such a genius idea, rather than some randomer.
It will be annoying for us Stendan fans cos we'll no doubt be asked to keep defending why we ship an abusive relationship :rolleyes: but I'm not worried about it. I have faith we'll get the Stendan Endgame. And in the mean-time, Stendan angst and screen-time.
And yes, there will definitely be strong Team-Stugs and strong Team-Stendans. I imagine it will become a proper big online war. Exactly what HO wants, which is why - in terms of fan investment - Doug was such a genius idea, rather than some random.
I'm really not looking forward to that. I've seen those sorts of shipper wars, and they can get so nasty.
Haha, true! Although we could argue that Noah was a desperate rebound, and Ste's more self-assured, confident and aware of his attractiveness since Disneyland sassed him up.
And yes, there will definitely be strong Team-Stugs and strong Team-Stendans. I imagine it will become a proper big online war. Exactly what HO wants, which is why - in terms of fan investment - Doug was such a genius idea, rather than some random.
Well not really since Ste was happy with him right up until his last week. And then he started showing conflicted feelings.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a fan of both of them, so I don't mind whichever way it goes (although I do like Stendan more, so I do still want them as the end-game) but I can imagine a lot of digs and what not.
Thanks for sharing that with us, it's interesting!
I thought Texas/Jodie was more about bisexuality than Texas only liking Jodie. Unless they're never going to revisit that avenue.
I agree that sexuality isn't black and white. But I find it a bit hard to believe that this is happening with Doug.
my thoought exactly.
I wouldn't like brendan to ruin stug they already did that and tbh if they just want to go in circles then it's better to end stendan definetly...I can't believe I said it! maybe this is hollyoaks's strategy they put all the stendan shipper through misery so that they voluntarily abandon the ship and hollyoaks stop worrying how to write a reunion and a complex relationship convincingly
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Doug, for going behind his back and not telling him (especially if they were together), or Brendan.
Part of me thinks Brendan, cos eventually he would work out the only reason Brendan told him was to split them up. I think he would forgive Doug, though. It'd be trickier with Brendan because Brendan's done worse to him in the past before this.
Yeah and ugly no doubt.
How they play it after is the key but before Brendan is going to be livid so prepare for the worst.
It depends, I guess. Brendan because of the reasons you've said, but Doug if he falls madly in love with him.
I think he'll go completely crazy. More so than we've ever seen him.
I guess it literally does depend on what Brendan does between now and then. If he just leaves them to it, lets Doug and Ste run the business and not get Doug to do anything, takes repayments of the money and thats that then probably Doug if Im honest because whilst Brendan did invest the money he hasnt done anything else to control the business.
Whereas Doug has gone out of his way to lie to him and he is someone he thought he could trust as opposed to Brendan who isnt.
I didn't even think of that, but that really isn't going to end well is it?
I think he'll be pissed at both of them for a while and like you said, forgive Doug first, or maybe this leads to the end of the Stug relationship or something? Then maybe they can be friends again later on down the line.
I really have no idea what direction they are taking the show in any more. The list of possible out comes is endless really.
One thing I do really worry about, is that they can't afford to have Brendan make Ste even more miserable. I mean, he hit him, then he split Ste and his boyfriend up, then he broke his heart all over again, then hit him, and now is probably gonna try split Ste and his new boyfriend up.
I know it's who Brendan is, and he does things without thinking, but they just can't keep doing it. It won't do them no favours, making Ste hate him even more.
you see this relationship is so wrong it can't last;)
That's why I think Brendan's reaction may surprise us. I think this could really throw him, if he wasn't expecting it and he sees Doug as a feasible threat.
If he keeps going around ranting and raving, scheming and threatening everyone in Ste's life, he's not going to get anywhere and nor is the storyline or his redemption in Ste's eyes.
I really wouldnt expect it, not inititally anyway. I think as someone pointed out last week gave us the biggest foreboding when Brendan told Doug he didnt like people who took what was his. So inititally he is going to flip and probably make Ste hate him more.
After that of course if Ste forgives Doug then maybe but by then the damage would no doubt have been done really.
That's the thing - there's only so much Ste and us Stendan shippers can take. If he continues being a villain and constantly destroying Ste's happiness, then how are we going to believe that Ste will want him back? Especially in comparison to Doug.
Both storylines have some resonance to me because although I have never admitted this to anyone before, I did go through a period where I wondered if I was bi last year. I won't go into details but it was a very confusing time and it made me question a lot of things - whether I was really attracted to men or if I just thought I was because I was in denial. Ultimately I came to the conclusion that even though I am...curious about women on some level, at the end of the day I just don't want to have sex with one! Although I outwardly identify as straight, personally I've decided that sexuality isn't as rigid as three separate terms for some people, and I've been a lot more at ease since realising that. So even though mine wasn't really a "one person" case like Jodie was for Texas, I was actually really glad they did that storyline, despite what some people said about it.
Yeah, exactly. Him carrying on trying to ruin things for Ste, how are they suppoed to expect us to even want Ste and him together?
I dunno. As I've said, I like the idea of Stug, but I just worry about what it means for Ste/Brendan.
Depends what relationship you ship I guess.
I want Brendan to stop hitting Ste, thats my only wish and need for it. What Im saying is Im fully prepared for Ste to get happiness with Brendan, hes the love of his life but at the same time that choice of being with Brendan will also bring alot of misery to Ste at the same time because Brendan will never be the ideal boyfriend. Hes too flawed for that so at times he will make him miserable as sin too.
Thanks for sharing that with us, it's interesting!
I thought Texas/Jodie was more about bisexuality than Texas only liking Jodie. Unless they're never going to revisit that avenue.
I agree that sexuality isn't black and white. But I find it a bit hard to believe that this is happening with Doug.
I've never thought their relationship should be perfect - I expect jealousy and control. They wouldn't be them if they weren't like that. But I don't want Ste to be miserable at times when they're together. Sad and frustrated maybe, as it's realistic - but not miserable. But my main thing is also for the hitting to stop.
I think the fandom's going to become even more divided. I can see ES changing the ending if Stug take off.
I wander what this opens up in terms of storyline if Ste doesn't respond to his advances.
People are already shipping Stug, so yeah, it'll be very .. hard to be online sometimes, I think.
He's a man, interested in Ste. He's his type, for sure.
Plus I'd be annoyed if he wasn't, after bloody Noah.
I'm not sure where that storyline is going, but I liked that they didn't just make it a black and white declaration that Texas is now bi or a lesbian.
I reckon he's his type. Ste seems to go for quite a wide range of men. I guess he wants someone who treats him right and who he has a bit of banter with, and that applies to Doug.
Maybe they'll go down the unrequited love route with Doug if Ste doesn't respond, and then pair him with someone else?
I guess it depends how much they start to ship them - if it's like during the JP/Craig era, where there were a lot of hardcore, passionate JP/Kieron shippers.
Ah, I see! Yes, I know what you mean. Same for Craig and Sarah, really.
Me too. Sometimes it's not good to put labels on things.
Haha, true! Although we could argue that Noah was a desperate rebound, and Ste's more self-assured, confident and aware of his attractiveness since Disneyland sassed him up.
And yes, there will definitely be strong Team-Stugs and strong Team-Stendans. I imagine it will become a proper big online war. Exactly what HO wants, which is why - in terms of fan investment - Doug was such a genius idea, rather than some randomer.
It will be annoying for us Stendan fans cos we'll no doubt be asked to keep defending why we ship an abusive relationship :rolleyes: but I'm not worried about it. I have faith we'll get the Stendan Endgame. And in the mean-time, Stendan angst and screen-time.
I'm really not looking forward to that. I've seen those sorts of shipper wars, and they can get so nasty.
Well not really since Ste was happy with him right up until his last week. And then he started showing conflicted feelings.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a fan of both of them, so I don't mind whichever way it goes (although I do like Stendan more, so I do still want them as the end-game) but I can imagine a lot of digs and what not.
Yeah, but we have the ultimate one on our side. Brendan is the love of Ste's life. Case closed. :cool:
my thoought exactly.
I wouldn't like brendan to ruin stug they already did that and tbh if they just want to go in circles then it's better to end stendan definetly...I can't believe I said it! maybe this is hollyoaks's strategy they put all the stendan shipper through misery so that they voluntarily abandon the ship and hollyoaks stop worrying how to write a reunion and a complex relationship convincingly