Mel Gibbsons ' Apocalypto '
juliancarswell
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Caught the second half of this on the telly box the other night. One of those films that stays with you for days ( for me any way ) Now ordered on Amazon, under £3.00 a bargain.
Hard to watch at times due to the violence, but fascinating if a true representation of the culture.
Anybody catch it?
Hard to watch at times due to the violence, but fascinating if a true representation of the culture.
Anybody catch it?
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Great film.
But, damnit, you have to admit Mad Mel certainly knows how to put a visceral, pedal-to-the-floor piece of cinema together.
I just wish he had the opportunity to make more films, but he struggles to get film studios to give him a chance these days.
Hehe Mad Mel, good moniker! noticed it was still on iplayer, I will give it a watch. He is a good director though credit due, Passion of the Christ is a splendidly crafted film to be fair although difficult subject for some of course!
The storytelling is brilliant.
And rightly so. He's a violent thug who wishes the mother of his child to get raped by a pack of naggers. You can't have someone like that shoving his agendas into every movie he makes. Passion of Christ anyone?
Couldn't give a damn about comments he made (yes, comments made when angry, not actual violence carried out). He has his issues and I hope he deals with them.
He's a great film-maker/actor and its a shame he's not on our screens much any more IMO
True. But Woody Allen & Roman Polanski aren't exactly shining beacons of light morally either, yet they still get films made.
You need to revisit those tapes. He was violent to the mother. He hit her while she had their child in her hands and his response? "You deserved it!" He has shown no remorse for his comments on Jews and was even racist to a Jewish presenter when he probed him about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10HfOmJhnEA
His disgusting comments on black people, he won't even acknowledge. And I don't really accept the "he was angry!" excuse. Many people say things in anger but they don't turn into a racist, misogynistic creeper in the process. The thing is, his anger wasn't even directed towards black people; he said "pack of naggers" in passing, so casually, which means he has these ingrained beliefs about black men being animalistic.
It actually restores my faith in Hollywood that nobody wants to work with him. The music industry should learn a thing or two instead of letting that muppet Chris Brown run around doing what he wants.
Like others mentioned, Polanski raped a kid and has been fawned over ever since, receiving oscars and everything. Trying to even mention the concept of morality in the seedy, dark world of Hollywood is pretty futile.
Oh, I'm aware that Hollywood is full of seedy and evil people but Gibson's "exile" is a glimmer of light amongst all the darkness.
Whilst Polanki is disgusting and far worse, this thread isn't about Polanski and if it was I would be saying the same thing. This is a thread about people's desire to see Mel Gibson come back and I am simply saying that Mel is down in the gutter where he belongs.
It actually got pretty good reviews but given all the negative publicity around Gibson at the time and the fact it was in Mayan it was never going to do as well as the Passion of the Christ.
True. Gibson received a couple of awards for it and it was also praised among the Hollywood community. Robert Duvall said it was maybe the best movie he'd seen in 25 years, Quentin Tarantino said it was a masterpiece, one of the best of the year and by far the most artistic of the year, and Spike Lee placed it on his all-time essential movies.
Considering it was released after Gibson's troubles and many were slamming him, that says a lot about him as a film-maker.
But The Passion Of The Christ was in Hebrew/Latin.
It was about Jesus though so the Christian audience in the US were willing to put up with subtitles, most of them had no interest in seeing a Mayan warrior.
People forget even before the DUI incident TPOTC and its success did not endear him to many in Hollywood, although I personally thought the anti-semitic accusations unfair.