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Is Jack now sticking with men to protect himself from himself?

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The consensus seems to be that Jack is being portrayed this series as pretty much only being interested in men now, not women.

Do you think that's a conscious decision on his part, following on from the events of Children of Earth where he had to kill his own grandson? After all, if you only sleep with men you're much less likely to get anyone pregnant and produce loved ones who you'll not only have to watch grow old and die, but may also endanger too.

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    MinkytheDogMinkytheDog Posts: 5,658
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    Being omni-sexual doesn't mean he can't PREFER men.

    Regular, human bi-sexuals don't have to have an exactly equal number of male and female partners or alternate them according to some schedule in order to qualify for that label - they just find both genders sexually attractive.

    It's no different to someone "straight" having a preference for blondes - they'll mostly date people within that group - they may even go years of only dating blondes - but it doesn't mean they are blonde-sexual and won't or can't find a brunette appealing.
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    IvanIVIvanIV Posts: 30,310
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    Perhaps after Ianto he now needs something to hold on to, to remind him of him :eek: :D
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    tingramretrotingramretro Posts: 10,974
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    No. It's because the whole 'omnisexual' thing was just RTD paying lip service to the idea. He presents Jack as gay because he doesn't have the imagination to write him as anything else.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 197
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    I do seem to recall a quote from RTD saying something along the lines that one thing they hadn't done so much this season was make Jack's omnisexuality clear. So I don't think it's a character thing as much as that just being the way the writing of the character has worked out this time round.

    Though I do think there's probably something to be said that Jack leaning towards more casual relationships like the one-night stand might be as a consequence of the painful ending to his relationship with Ianto.
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    lordo350lordo350 Posts: 3,636
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    No. They've made him gay this series as they are falling over themselves to introduce their gay agenda into America. The idea behind Jack is he'll shag anything, not just blokes because the writers have a point to make.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 197
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    lordo350 wrote: »
    No. They've made him gay this series as they are falling over themselves to introduce their gay agenda into America. The idea behind Jack is he'll shag anything, not just blokes because the writers have a point to make.

    Would that be the same "they" as the person who created Jack and had the idea behind him in the first place, Russell T Davies?
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    MinkytheDogMinkytheDog Posts: 5,658
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    "Russell T Davies made me a homosexual"

    "If I give him the wool, will he make one for me?"
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 194
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    Right, you know what? This is MY thread, so I'm going to set the rules.

    I asked for opinions on whether the CHARACTER Jack might (consciously or sub-consciously) be altering his behaviour as a consequence of the events of Children of Earth.

    If you want to comment on that, as one person has so far, then go right ahead.

    If you want to just bang on about gay agendas and slag off the writers, then get the hell out of here.
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    codename_47codename_47 Posts: 9,683
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    phileq wrote: »
    Right, you know what? This is MY thread, so I'm going to set the rules.

    I asked for opinions on whether the CHARACTER Jack might (consciously or sub-consciously) be altering his behaviour as a consequence of the events of Children of Earth.

    If you want to comment on that, as one person has so far, then go right ahead.

    If you want to just bang on about gay agendas and slag off the writers, then get the hell out of here.

    I admire your bravery, but sadly on this forum you haven't got much chance of anyone following it when there's a political point to make.

    The so called "Gay agenda" is even a minor part of that too...oh well.

    Maybe Jack spent years upon years as a husband and father and fancies a bit of a change.
    Maybe he's going through his version of a mid-immortal-life crisis (though he is Mortal now, surely even he thinks that is only temporary...)

    In the end he had a female cat Nun with him when he died so he's not going to be exclusive to men forever :p
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    MinkytheDogMinkytheDog Posts: 5,658
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    In the end he had a female cat Nun with him when he died so he's not going to be exclusive to men forever :p

    I am SOOOooooo going avoid the obvious jokes - like "Jack goes to heaven and St Peter says - Did you get any pussy in the last years of your life? and Jack says - 'Nun' " cos that would be too easy so I'll just say that you are assuming that Jack is the Face of Boe.

    RTD and Moff have said that they will never say whether or not that is the case. They are leaving that open as a tease.

    Or as Jack says - Tabby or not tabby.
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    Bruce WayneBruce Wayne Posts: 5,326
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    I am SOOOooooo going avoid the obvious jokes - like "Jack goes to heaven and St Peter says - Did you get any pussy in the last years of your life? and Jack says - 'Nun' " cos that would be too easy so I'll just say that you are assuming that Jack is the Face of Boe.

    RTD and Moff have said that they will never say whether or not that is the case. They are leaving that open as a tease.

    Or as Jack says - Tabby or not tabby.

    *wipes rum and coke from monitor*

    Thanks Minky! :mad: :D
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    IvanIVIvanIV Posts: 30,310
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    ^^^ Could it be that Captain Jack and Father Jack of Craggy Island are the same person? Father Jack had a strong phobia of nuns and he often reminisced about the past, 'F e ck! Arse! Drink! Girls!' Which could possibly mean he's bi, too :p
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,139
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    All I can say is that he needed to take precautions with Brad because it doesn't rain in California or so the song says.
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    hopscotch23hopscotch23 Posts: 455
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    chipchat wrote: »
    Would that be the same "they" as the person who created Jack and had the idea behind him in the first place, Russell T Davies?

    Wasn't he - and his omnisexuality - a Moff creation?
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    HelboreHelbore Posts: 16,069
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    "Russell T Davies made me a homosexual"

    "If I give him the wool, will he make one for me?"

    You want a wolly homo? You kinky thing :D
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    Richie1001Richie1001 Posts: 8,217
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    lordo350 wrote: »
    No. They've made him gay this series as they are falling over themselves to introduce their gay agenda into America. The idea behind Jack is he'll shag anything, not just blokes because the writers have a point to make.

    Didn't the Moff have a lesbian couple of a recent episode of Dr Who.

    Presumably you see that as a gay agenda as well?
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    jodojodo Posts: 279
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    It's an interesting idea that after COE Jack is avoiding female partners to avoid offspring. He has plenty to be guilty about.

    I miss that aspect of Jack's character of flirting with any life form, whether human or alien, whatever the gender! I always found his incessant flirting amusing.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 197
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    Wasn't he - and his omnisexuality - a Moff creation?

    He appeared first in a Moff story, but he was very much a creation of RTD as I understand it. RTD chose the name, the accent, based him largely around Barrowman's personality, etc.
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