BIB You do know there's a multitude of posters who thinks Katie Hopkins is amazing. now that's gullible :kitty:
No it isn't. I have always known what Katie Hopkins is. I don't think she is amazing. She just makes me laugh. I find her wind ups funny and the reaction to them even funnier, I always have. That's just my sense of humour. I don't particularly share her politics or her views, I just appreciate her for comedy reasons. It's just my humour you see. Unlike Nadia I can actually laugh along with people that don't share my views or beliefs.
Perez on the other hand just annoys me. He thinks he is funny and entertaining but he isn't. He tries too hard. Cheese up your nose? I didn't even find stuff like that funny when I was a child. Humping inaminate objects? nah, not my cup of tea. Goading people into a reaction so they get thrown out then pretending to fear for your life? not funny in the slightest.
It's telling that when asked by BB if anything untoward had happened to her when Perez licked her face etc she waved them away, you can bet if it was the other way round Perez would have set his lawyers on to Hopkins without hesitating. So no gullibility here, just a judgment call based on my sense of humour.
Interesting comment from someone who wears a t shirt claiming people of certain sexual persuasions are all victims and by golly she is going to stand up for them.
Staggering hypocrisy.I also believe we are now at the point where we will need industrial equipment to remove her head from Hopkins arse so far has she disappeared up there.[/B
She's a complete waste of space.
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What a sanctimonious woman she is. A total hypocrite.
I just don't understand why she doesn't engage him? I mean, why doesn't she challenge him or something? I don't get it. For such a self-proclaimed champion she is very passive.
I said yesterday before she even said this that in previous BBs that is the mantra of the bully. They always preempt what the viewer might think so say things like they're acting like a victim, or say that it's not bullying.
I'm not necessarily saying that she is a bully mind, but it is interesting that she said this.
(I am heavily implying it though.:D)
Anyway, whatever, even if she isn't party to any possible bullying, with all the claptrap she spouts about sticking up for people who aren't part of a group she really should be the very last person in there to say that.
She was one of the main ones who definitely told others to isolate him.
That's not imagined or made up, she was definitely orchestrating that with others.
It doesn't matter whether you or anyone else thinks he deserves it, she said it. The intent was there. That cannot be denied.
He is playing the Victim IMO. He at least feels sorry for himself.
Katie Hopkins had the right of it tonight, if he just sat everybody down and said sorry for the way he acted, it would make things better for himself.
Instead of actively trying to redeem himself, he is just wallowing in his cocoon of self pity and it is pretty pathetic to watch.
I would be lying if I said it wasn't satisfying to watch after how horrible he has been on this show and in the past.
okay....so what exactly does he need to say sorry for?
Not trying to be funny, just want to get the facts here. What exactly does the reviled one need to apologise for? Assuming that he wants to be welcomed back into that pack of self-satisfied wolves anyway. But just saying - what EXACTLY would you want him to say?
She worships at the feet of strength. From the very beginning she said all those upset by Ken's behaviour were sensitive, whereas she found it funny because she was strong and could take it. For someone who purports to stand up for the outcasts she sure is drawn to the bullies.
There is a growing list of examples now.
Another one was where when Alicia was being picked on by Katie H, Michelle in the diary room justified it by saying Alicia is too weak.
Seriously.
Okay, lets say that Michelle herself isn't a bully. Fine, lets go with that.
The problem is that she should be the very last person in that house to condone these situations. She was the only one who went into that house wearing the badge of the public avenger who will defend those who are in a minority or who are outcasts from a majority group.
She gets called up on this more than the others due to what she purported to be the reason she went in there for.
Every single opportunity which has been laid out on a plate for her to fight for her cause which she said was her whole point to her being in there has been squandered.
Not only squandered, but she appears to condone the very behaviour which she claimed she was dead set against.
She herself doesn't need to be a bully, she condones whatever you want to call it, she enables it, she helps set up the situation for it, and she's complicit.
She has somehow managed to be the very opposite of what she claimed to be.
These opportunities keep coming along where the stage is set for us to hear this voice which she claimed that she represents, but every single time she fails spectacularly.
She said herself, that is what she is there for.
As I said, she's under more scrutiny than others for this because what she said that she stood for is very important. She said it was her reason for doing CBB. She made it an issue. She set her own criteria to be judged on.
When questionable situations such as this arise, the eyes are going to be on her to see how she reacts.
You can't make the sorts of claims that she did but then act in ways which could be seen to be the opposite of them.
As soon as she caught wind of anyone suggesting that they isolate anybody, she should have been the one person out of anyone in there to say "NO, you're not doing that!!".
okay....so what exactly does he need to say sorry for?
Not trying to be funny, just want to get the facts here. What exactly does the reviled one need to apologise for? Assuming that he wants to be welcomed back into that pack of self-satisfied wolves anyway. But just saying - what EXACTLY would you want him to say?
For acting like a complete and utter moron for the first few weeks. For stirring shit after he got out of his secret room. For harassing Alexander into leaving. For making it his lifes goal to annoy other people in the house For creating a negative atmosphere in the house that is clearly making people feel uncomfortable.
As far as I am concerned, there is no smoke without fire and he is clearly disliked thoroughly in the house and people are expecting me to believe that he has done nothing to warrant the hate he is getting. If it was only one person then maybe I would just pass it off as conflicting personalities but all of Michelle, Katie Hopkins, Kav, Cami and Callum all dislike him. Katie P and Cheggers get on with everybody as well so it is no award to have them talk to you.
As for what I want him to say, nothing. I am not living with him. If you want an answer, ask Katie Hopkins.
Get over yourselves. They will all be tweeting each other and hanging out together at Essex nightclubs in a few days. While their "fans" here will still be arguing over which person they've never met is better than another person they've never met. Which is ridiculous really.
There is a growing list of examples now.
Another one was where when Alicia was being picked on by Katie H, Michelle in the diary room justified it by saying Alicia is too weak.
Seriously.
Okay, lets say that Michelle herself isn't a bully. Fine, lets go with that.
The problem is that she should be the very last person in that house to condone these situations. She was the only one who went into that house wearing the badge of the public avenger who will defend those who are in a minority or who are outcasts from a majority group.
She gets called up on this more than the others due to what she purported to be the reason she went in there for.
Every single opportunity which has been laid out on a plate for her to fight for her cause which she said was her whole point to her being in there has been squandered.
Not only squandered, but she appears to condone the very behaviour which she claimed she was dead set against.
She herself doesn't need to be a bully, she condones whatever you want to call it, she enables it, she helps set up the situation for it, and she's complicit.
She has somehow managed to be the very opposite of what she claimed to be.
These opportunities keep coming along where the stage is set for us to hear this voice which she claimed that she represents, but every single time she fails spectacularly.
She said herself, that is what she is there for.
As I said, she's under more scrutiny than others for this because what she said that she stood for is very important. She said it was her reason for doing CBB. She made it an issue. She set her own criteria to be judged on.
When questionable situations such as this arise, the eyes are going to be on her to see how she reacts.
You can't make the sorts of claims that she did but then act in ways which could be seen to be the opposite of them.
As soon as she caught wind of anyone suggesting that they isolate anybody, she should have been the one person out of anyone in there to say "NO, you're not doing that!!".
I hate it when people quote the entire long post and just say YAY!! WELL SAID! But I'm doing it here because it's deserved.
I would only add that it's so puzzling to me why Michelle has completely ostracised Perez - surely if she cared so much about him being a 'bad gay' and damaging the 'image' she would have made efforts to engage with him and set him right on the error of his ways? She's full of SH*T, that's the only conclusion to be made.
You're wrong. They were all saying that he isolates himself. He does. He set this all up. It's 'The Perez Show' don't forget. He's maintained all the way through that he has the power, that he's in control.
So that being the case, he got exactly what he wanted because he's had the power. Or was 'power' another word for 'Nadia'?
I wonder why they said that, if they did. Because some of them actually spoke to each other of a plan to isolate him. Numerous times.
It makes no difference if he was 'playing the victim', the plan was to isolate him and don't speak to him, that is an intent regardless of Perez's reaction.
Hasn't anyone heard of "cover your ass"? That is what the pro-isolation people are doing. They are shifting the blame onto their victim and covering their asses.
She has been a disappointment. Perez has been very badly behaved, but I think that people should make an effort to integrate him as he has as much right ti=o be in there as anyone else. I liked what Nadia that even if she hated him she would not have allowed him to feel isolated. I dislike Perez, but this is getting beyond the pale now.
They'd be 'bullying' him, having a go, there would be escalation as that's what he specialises in. It would end up in vile verbally sexual abuse and him calling victim.
Calum only asked him not to turn the light on and look what he got.
He didn't ONLY do that at all. He told him to shut his mouth, and then called him a dick before Perez was abusive back to him.
Try telling somebody to shut their mouth on here and see how they react.
(Not me of course, although I know you might be tempted by what looks like me setting myself up for it.:D)
I hate it when people quote the entire long post and just say YAY!! WELL SAID! But I'm doing it here because it's deserved.
I would only add that it's so puzzling to me why Michelle has completely ostracised Perez - surely if she cared so much about him being a 'bad gay' and damaging the 'image' she would have made efforts to engage with him and set him right on the error of his ways? She's full of SH*T, that's the only conclusion to be made.
we saw on an early show, Michelle angry and questioning perez WHY? why didnt he keep in touch after she had supported him and gave him a big break putting himon her radio show? why didnt he answer her messages? after he got really famous.
WHY??!
poor michelle, sour grapes and jealousy. Those tears she shed when perez came back from the Secret room told us everything. Didnt she even say to KH, now i cant win?
If Hopkins wishes for Perez to be isolated from everybody in the house and succeeds does that not make him a 'victim' by her design?
Exactly. They wanted him isolated, now they're complaining that he's an isolated victim.
I think the problem is that Hopkins and Michelle didn't expect him to stay so long. Now that Perez is finally starting to crack after being the house hate figure, they don't know how to cope. Hopkins keeps blindly hammering away like an idiot, not guessing the dynamic might have changed. Michelle seems to be having second thoughts, but she's too much of a coward to express them.
we saw on an early show, Michelle angry and questioning perez WHY? why didnt he keep in touch after she had supported him and gave him a big break putting him on her radio show? why didnt he answer her messages? after he got really famous.
WHY??!
Yeah, she seems to really resent him for that. I think a lot of Michelle's behavior is motivated by revenge for something that happened outside of the house.
Can someone tell me when they will be performing the exploratory surgery in Hopkins ass to try to find Michelle? She is officially M.I.H.A (missing in Hopkins ass).
They sent in a search party, but Michelle is refusing to leave.
He's not doing anything wrong. He's making his own entertainment and they constantly have to bitch and moan about it, they are pathetic.
Didn't you hear the whole whine/sobfest of his when he was allegedly drunk (he was faking that, by the way) and weaving this tragic tale for the camera about how everyone was against him and he was nothing but a victim of a witchhunt?
If that was real it would already be annoying, if sad, because it would mean he has total tunnel vision where his in your face provocations of people never happened. But it wasn't real. It was him playing for the camera, so he can get sympathy viewer votes (or so he THINKS will happen).
When labelling him a victim, I wonder if she considers that she engineered the persecution that led to him being a victim. She always loads the gun, then sets Hopkins off to press the trigger. She is such a disappointment.
Spends whole day whining about how everyone hates him. Spends an hour in diary room boring big brother shitless with a catalogue of self pity. Then curls up into a ball underneath the stairs pretending to cry. If that isn't someone playing the victim then my name's Nadia Sawalha.
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No it isn't. I have always known what Katie Hopkins is. I don't think she is amazing. She just makes me laugh. I find her wind ups funny and the reaction to them even funnier, I always have. That's just my sense of humour. I don't particularly share her politics or her views, I just appreciate her for comedy reasons. It's just my humour you see. Unlike Nadia I can actually laugh along with people that don't share my views or beliefs.
Perez on the other hand just annoys me. He thinks he is funny and entertaining but he isn't. He tries too hard. Cheese up your nose? I didn't even find stuff like that funny when I was a child. Humping inaminate objects? nah, not my cup of tea. Goading people into a reaction so they get thrown out then pretending to fear for your life? not funny in the slightest.
It's telling that when asked by BB if anything untoward had happened to her when Perez licked her face etc she waved them away, you can bet if it was the other way round Perez would have set his lawyers on to Hopkins without hesitating. So no gullibility here, just a judgment call based on my sense of humour.
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Agree
What a sanctimonious woman she is. A total hypocrite.
She just hasn't got the time
That slap won't put itself on
Katie Hopkins had the right of it tonight, if he just sat everybody down and said sorry for the way he acted, it would make things better for himself.
Instead of actively trying to redeem himself, he is just wallowing in his cocoon of self pity and it is pretty pathetic to watch.
I would be lying if I said it wasn't satisfying to watch after how horrible he has been on this show and in the past.
I said yesterday before she even said this that in previous BBs that is the mantra of the bully. They always preempt what the viewer might think so say things like they're acting like a victim, or say that it's not bullying.
I'm not necessarily saying that she is a bully mind, but it is interesting that she said this.
(I am heavily implying it though.:D)
Anyway, whatever, even if she isn't party to any possible bullying, with all the claptrap she spouts about sticking up for people who aren't part of a group she really should be the very last person in there to say that.
She was one of the main ones who definitely told others to isolate him.
That's not imagined or made up, she was definitely orchestrating that with others.
It doesn't matter whether you or anyone else thinks he deserves it, she said it. The intent was there. That cannot be denied.
Not trying to be funny, just want to get the facts here. What exactly does the reviled one need to apologise for? Assuming that he wants to be welcomed back into that pack of self-satisfied wolves anyway. But just saying - what EXACTLY would you want him to say?
There is a growing list of examples now.
Another one was where when Alicia was being picked on by Katie H, Michelle in the diary room justified it by saying Alicia is too weak.
Seriously.
Okay, lets say that Michelle herself isn't a bully. Fine, lets go with that.
The problem is that she should be the very last person in that house to condone these situations. She was the only one who went into that house wearing the badge of the public avenger who will defend those who are in a minority or who are outcasts from a majority group.
She gets called up on this more than the others due to what she purported to be the reason she went in there for.
Every single opportunity which has been laid out on a plate for her to fight for her cause which she said was her whole point to her being in there has been squandered.
Not only squandered, but she appears to condone the very behaviour which she claimed she was dead set against.
She herself doesn't need to be a bully, she condones whatever you want to call it, she enables it, she helps set up the situation for it, and she's complicit.
She has somehow managed to be the very opposite of what she claimed to be.
These opportunities keep coming along where the stage is set for us to hear this voice which she claimed that she represents, but every single time she fails spectacularly.
She said herself, that is what she is there for.
As I said, she's under more scrutiny than others for this because what she said that she stood for is very important. She said it was her reason for doing CBB. She made it an issue. She set her own criteria to be judged on.
When questionable situations such as this arise, the eyes are going to be on her to see how she reacts.
You can't make the sorts of claims that she did but then act in ways which could be seen to be the opposite of them.
As soon as she caught wind of anyone suggesting that they isolate anybody, she should have been the one person out of anyone in there to say "NO, you're not doing that!!".
For acting like a complete and utter moron for the first few weeks. For stirring shit after he got out of his secret room. For harassing Alexander into leaving. For making it his lifes goal to annoy other people in the house For creating a negative atmosphere in the house that is clearly making people feel uncomfortable.
As far as I am concerned, there is no smoke without fire and he is clearly disliked thoroughly in the house and people are expecting me to believe that he has done nothing to warrant the hate he is getting. If it was only one person then maybe I would just pass it off as conflicting personalities but all of Michelle, Katie Hopkins, Kav, Cami and Callum all dislike him. Katie P and Cheggers get on with everybody as well so it is no award to have them talk to you.
As for what I want him to say, nothing. I am not living with him. If you want an answer, ask Katie Hopkins.
I would only add that it's so puzzling to me why Michelle has completely ostracised Perez - surely if she cared so much about him being a 'bad gay' and damaging the 'image' she would have made efforts to engage with him and set him right on the error of his ways? She's full of SH*T, that's the only conclusion to be made.
I wonder why they said that, if they did. Because some of them actually spoke to each other of a plan to isolate him. Numerous times.
It makes no difference if he was 'playing the victim', the plan was to isolate him and don't speak to him, that is an intent regardless of Perez's reaction.
Cheggers to win
He didn't ONLY do that at all. He told him to shut his mouth, and then called him a dick before Perez was abusive back to him.
Try telling somebody to shut their mouth on here and see how they react.
(Not me of course, although I know you might be tempted by what looks like me setting myself up for it.:D)
Too true
That was obvious when he was looking into each encounter with separate hms as a means to play hard done by. Ken, Katie, Alexandra, jeremey etc
You can tell Pérez looks for every opportunity to be offended or feel threatened, typical lifelong self instilled victim.
we saw on an early show, Michelle angry and questioning perez WHY? why didnt he keep in touch after she had supported him and gave him a big break putting himon her radio show? why didnt he answer her messages? after he got really famous.
WHY??!
poor michelle, sour grapes and jealousy. Those tears she shed when perez came back from the Secret room told us everything. Didnt she even say to KH, now i cant win?
I think the problem is that Hopkins and Michelle didn't expect him to stay so long. Now that Perez is finally starting to crack after being the house hate figure, they don't know how to cope. Hopkins keeps blindly hammering away like an idiot, not guessing the dynamic might have changed. Michelle seems to be having second thoughts, but she's too much of a coward to express them.
Yeah, she seems to really resent him for that. I think a lot of Michelle's behavior is motivated by revenge for something that happened outside of the house.
They sent in a search party, but Michelle is refusing to leave.
Didn't you hear the whole whine/sobfest of his when he was allegedly drunk (he was faking that, by the way) and weaving this tragic tale for the camera about how everyone was against him and he was nothing but a victim of a witchhunt?
If that was real it would already be annoying, if sad, because it would mean he has total tunnel vision where his in your face provocations of people never happened. But it wasn't real. It was him playing for the camera, so he can get sympathy viewer votes (or so he THINKS will happen).