You're avoiding my question:where is the evidence that anal sex 'wears out the a***hole' as you put it?
There was a study done its on Wikipedia. It does increase the chances of those things, not to mention it is painful for a large percentage.
If its so harmless then why do many gay men not do it?
There was a study done its on Wikipedia. It does increase the chances of those things, not to mention it is painful for a large percentage.
If its so harmless then why do many gay men not do it?
different strokes for different folks
different people have different things that they enjoy
It's not between religions and homosexuals, it's between the secular and the theocrats. Those who don't want religion to control society, and those who do.
I'm not really sure what they were advertising but then again its not the first time i've thought that about an ad on a bus but that said i don't really see how its offensive seeing as no rude words or insults were used pulling it just seems like fussing over nothing.More people have probably heard about it since its been pulled than would've taken any notice of it had it been allowed to go ahead.
I'm not really sure what they were advertising but then again its not the first time i've thought that about an ad on a bus but that said i don't really see how its offensive seeing as no rude words or insults were used pulling it just seems like fussing over nothing.More people have probably heard about it since its been pulled than would've taken any notice of it had it been allowed to go ahead.
it's a homophobic ad used to push lies
this has been covered already
It is true though, all this publicity will have helped the exgay groups. There will always be people desperate enough to hope beyond logic that they might be the one it works on.
it's a homophobic ad used to push lies
this has been covered already
I'm not sure what lies you're talking about but even if it did bend the truth if all adverts that bent the truth were banned we'd barely have any adverts atall.
It is true though, all this publicity will have helped the exgay groups. There will always be people desperate enough to hope beyond logic that they might be the one it works on.
Their are plenty of cases where people have changed orientation after therapy or prayer and i'm sure you could find afew of them with most search engines.The main issue people have,from what i can gather,is not whether it can be done but more whether its right or wrong to be allowed to try to change someones sexual orientation.
I'm not sure what lies you're talking about but even if it did bend the truth if all adverts that bent the truth were banned we'd barely have any adverts atall.
Their are plenty of cases where people have changed orientation after therapy or prayer and i'm sure you could find afew of them with most search engines.The main issue people have,from what i can gather,is not whether it can be done but more whether its right or wrong to be allowed to try to change someones sexual orientation.
All lies as the people are just repressing their sexuality, often they are into the same sex still but they keep it secret, the main issue is how this affects people and it's wrong to change sexual orientation as that can't be done
Their are plenty of cases where people have changed orientation after therapy or prayer and i'm sure you could find afew of them with most search engines.The main issue people have,from what i can gather,is not whether it can be done but more whether its right or wrong to be allowed to try to change someones sexual orientation.
As stated before, if there was some kind of magic pill that people could take to change sexuality, go for it. However stating as fact that prayer can change people's sexuality is not something that I'd be waving a banner for. The only reason a person would want to use prayer to change sexuality is that their religion declares them less of a human being for being gay. When the treatment fails, how do you think these people will feel? So called "pray the gay away" therapy is clearly dangerous, as it implies that there is something wrong with a person, when there is not. It also attracted very mentally fragile people.
Maybe spend more time encouraging tolerance and compassion for those getting rough treatment in society, rather than encouraging them to change attractions to circumvent hatred.
As stated before, if there was some kind of magic pill that people could take to change sexuality, go for it. However stating as fact that prayer can change people's sexuality is not something that I'd be waving a banner for. The only reason a person would want to use prayer to change sexuality is that their religion declares them less of a human being for being gay. When the treatment fails, how do you think these people will feel? So called "pray the gay away" therapy is clearly dangerous, as it implies that there is something wrong with a person, when there is not. It also attracted very mentally fragile people.
Maybe spend more time encouraging tolerance and compassion for those getting rough treatment in society, rather than encouraging them to change attractions to circumvent hatred.
It would take more than prayer to change one's sexuality. It would need a vast amount of psychotherapy and self-discipline for the person to change their ways. Ultimately there are no perfect paths in life and the only way of life is one of self-contentment.
In viewing homosexuality as in "illness" people can legitimise fighting against feelings of same sex attraction in the same way you might battle an ongoing disease. Is that really a healthy way to look at a rather arbitrary attraction though? You have to keep in mind that we live in a society where really gay people are encourages to feel 'less than'. As such I think it's dangerous to encourage ideas that they can rid themselves of their "condition", rather than simply feel comfortable with who they naturally are and for us to encourage tolerance.
Still, in the west there are an awful lot of suicides by young gay people. It's especially apparent in the US. Almost without exception their lives are sad tales of religious intolerance, vicious bullying and a total lack of human decency shown towards them. To deal with this inhumanity we need to understand that being attracted to men or women is not the be all and en all, not pass down a message that those with same sex attraction should seek to view themselves as wounded, less than or wrong in some way.
It would take more than prayer to change one's sexuality. It would need a vast amount of psychotherapy and self-discipline for the person to change their ways. Ultimately there are no perfect paths in life and the only way of life is one of self-contentment.
See my above post. In short, I think it's horrendous if anyone believes that homosexuality is so terrible that they should pray themselves out of it, or engage in vast amounts of psychotherapy in relation to it. Even the notion of this as an option implies that homosexuals are less than. We should be dedicating time to spreading compassion and understanding, not demonising people.
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There was a study done its on Wikipedia. It does increase the chances of those things, not to mention it is painful for a large percentage.
If its so harmless then why do many gay men not do it?
But I doubt many straight men don't like vaginal sex do they? Isn't that evidence that it's less convenient?
different strokes for different folks
different people have different things that they enjoy
Being the receiving partner in vaginal sex is very inconvenient for men I would have thought.
You are not comparing like with like.
It's not between religions and homosexuals, it's between the secular and the theocrats. Those who don't want religion to control society, and those who do.
Would you object to a sign stating "there are no dragons"?
Well include women then.
Include them in what?
You can't really compare anal and vaginal sex like that, as everyone has an anus one but only half of people have vaginas.
you are admitting that men aren't designed to be penetrated.
how many men get penetrated by women? very few.
Most if not all straight couples have vagina-penis sex, only 60% of gay couples have anal.
How many is very few? and how are you defining penetration. If that is true what does it prove?
That gay people are more imaginative when it comes to sex?
it's a homophobic ad used to push lies
this has been covered already
I'm not sure what lies you're talking about but even if it did bend the truth if all adverts that bent the truth were banned we'd barely have any adverts atall.
Their are plenty of cases where people have changed orientation after therapy or prayer and i'm sure you could find afew of them with most search engines.The main issue people have,from what i can gather,is not whether it can be done but more whether its right or wrong to be allowed to try to change someones sexual orientation.
The whole ex-gay stuff is a lie
All lies as the people are just repressing their sexuality, often they are into the same sex still but they keep it secret, the main issue is how this affects people and it's wrong to change sexual orientation as that can't be done
As stated before, if there was some kind of magic pill that people could take to change sexuality, go for it. However stating as fact that prayer can change people's sexuality is not something that I'd be waving a banner for. The only reason a person would want to use prayer to change sexuality is that their religion declares them less of a human being for being gay. When the treatment fails, how do you think these people will feel? So called "pray the gay away" therapy is clearly dangerous, as it implies that there is something wrong with a person, when there is not. It also attracted very mentally fragile people.
Maybe spend more time encouraging tolerance and compassion for those getting rough treatment in society, rather than encouraging them to change attractions to circumvent hatred.
http://narth.com/docs/listen.html
Very interesting read.
It would take more than prayer to change one's sexuality. It would need a vast amount of psychotherapy and self-discipline for the person to change their ways. Ultimately there are no perfect paths in life and the only way of life is one of self-contentment.
In viewing homosexuality as in "illness" people can legitimise fighting against feelings of same sex attraction in the same way you might battle an ongoing disease. Is that really a healthy way to look at a rather arbitrary attraction though? You have to keep in mind that we live in a society where really gay people are encourages to feel 'less than'. As such I think it's dangerous to encourage ideas that they can rid themselves of their "condition", rather than simply feel comfortable with who they naturally are and for us to encourage tolerance.
Still, in the west there are an awful lot of suicides by young gay people. It's especially apparent in the US. Almost without exception their lives are sad tales of religious intolerance, vicious bullying and a total lack of human decency shown towards them. To deal with this inhumanity we need to understand that being attracted to men or women is not the be all and en all, not pass down a message that those with same sex attraction should seek to view themselves as wounded, less than or wrong in some way.
See my above post. In short, I think it's horrendous if anyone believes that homosexuality is so terrible that they should pray themselves out of it, or engage in vast amounts of psychotherapy in relation to it. Even the notion of this as an option implies that homosexuals are less than. We should be dedicating time to spreading compassion and understanding, not demonising people.