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Dispatches - Africa's last taboo

foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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What a depressing state of affairs to be in.

2010? Doesn't seem like it for gay people in a lot of african countries!

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    incisorboyincisorboy Posts: 200
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    Indeed. I'm sure we are all guilty of forgetting how lucky we are to live in a (relatively) tolerant society, and then you see what a living nightmare it is for these people, and it just brings it into focus.
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    MrBingMrBing Posts: 2,802
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    5 minutes in watching it on Channel 4+1 and already my blood is boiling. :mad:
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    tokio17tokio17 Posts: 427
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    MrBing wrote: »
    5 minutes in watching it on Channel 4+1 and already my blood is boiling. :mad:

    I second that! :mad:
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    jagged_deathjagged_death Posts: 8,652
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    When I read the description I decided I wasn't even going to watch this programme, its pretty clear what it will be like. I just wonder if that crazed "eat the poo poo" man is on this programme?
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    MrBingMrBing Posts: 2,802
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    tokio17 wrote: »
    I second that! :mad:

    I'm not gay myself, but one of my very closest friends killed himself because he was gay and his horribly religious family didn't accept it. Then to watch this is so infuriating. :(
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    foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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    I wish there had been just one example of a more liberated regime in the programme though!


    We were given information about how there is persecution in Kenya, Uganda, and Malawi; but no mention of which nations don't criminalise their gay citizens.

    I only know of South Africa where gay sex is legal (if not socially accepted by many), but are there others?
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    jagged_deathjagged_death Posts: 8,652
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    Gay people aren't treated very well in South Africa either - all the "corrective rapes" that go on there. Don't let SA "liberal" laws fool you.
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    foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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    Gay people aren't treated very well in South Africa either - all the "corrective rapes" that go on there. Don't let SA "liberal" laws fool you.

    That's why I added the part in brackets about social acceptance :)

    Pleased to see there is a thread for this programme in GD as well.
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    sallycamebacksallycameback Posts: 2,945
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    Man, that chief of police "Da annoos, is very musacular, and to put sumting in!, You need make it very slippahry!" :D
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    MartenMarten Posts: 996
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    This is so sick...

    The western world should immediately stop any form of humanitarian aid for countries where homosexuality is illegal. If a country (including many of the people) doesn't accept basic human rights, then they don't deserve support.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,312
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    Man, that chief of police "Da annoos, is very musacular, and to put sumting in!, You need make it very slippahry!" :D

    I know !! He knows quite alot about it
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    foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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    Man, that chief of police "Da annoos, is very musacular, and to put sumting in!, You need make it very slippahry!" :D

    He knew what he was talking about didn't he?:D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,312
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    There are some ridiculous arguments including the police chief's. Men use their penises to urinate and women have periods. How come no one is screaming straight sex is dirty and unnatural
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    grimtales1grimtales1 Posts: 46,695
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    This programme makes me depressed and very angry :( That bishop is an idiot :mad: How can anyone think this way in 2010?
    How come no one said a girl taking it up the.. is unatural?!
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    foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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    There are some ridiculous arguments including the police chief's. Men use their penises to urinate and women have periods. How come no one is screaming straight sex is dirty and unnatural

    I think the bible had a bit to say about women when they are on their period?

    Plus it was Eve's fault:p
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,312
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    A bit harsh but.......If the West is sooo evil why do hundreds kill themselves coming over to the West in small boats for a 'better life'


    F****** double standards
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    StubeStube Posts: 16,834
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    Coming from people who are still unfairly seen as the inferior race by some, I think it's very disgusting and hypocritical that people in Africa have such inhumane views about homosexuality. Ignorance isn't really an excuse as they must surely know what it's like to be unfairly treated by others just because of their natural identity.

    That documentary was very shocking! Especially when that man said he would even set his son on fire if he was gay.
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    foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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    A bit harsh but.......If the West is sooo evil why do hundreds kill themselves coming over to the West in small boats for a 'better life'


    F****** double standards

    Not double standards at all - I don't think the "pastor" is one of those people who has any intention of "coming over to the West in small boats for a 'better life'"

    Perhaps some of those people fleeing Uganda etc are gay and in fear for their life?
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    tokio17tokio17 Posts: 427
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    MrBing wrote: »
    I'm not gay myself, but one of my very closest friends killed himself because he was gay and his horribly religious family didn't accept it. Then to watch this is so infuriating. :(

    Well I'm gay and homophobia used to scare me when I was younger but now it justs makes me angry and wan't punch people (not the best reaction and I don't actually carry that out!)

    I'm very sorry to hear about your friend though. That's why I hate hatred in all it's forms - no good ever comes of it. :(
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    foonkfoonk Posts: 4,012
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    This programme makes it so clear to me that a secular government is essential for human rights.

    It also reinforces the importance of education from a young age.
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    grimtales1grimtales1 Posts: 46,695
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    I couldn't believe the people shown held such ridiculous, offensive, backward views :(
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    Colino GreenColino Green Posts: 575
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    Let's not just get angry about Africa, here. These type of views are held by most people in the Republican party of the US and related right-wing christian neo-con groups in the US and other parts of the world too. Let's not even talk about the Catholic church...

    Basically these out-dated and worrying views are widespread throughout the majority of the world's countries. Don't just demonise Africa. Just be thankful that most of western Europe in particular is far more tolerant and be hopeful that the rest of the world will follow suit sooner rather than later.
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    grimtales1grimtales1 Posts: 46,695
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    The white preacher on the programme also spread anti gay views with his "Jesus loves everyone, even those struggling with homosexuality" :rolleyes: Like it was a disease or something :(
    I'm not gay but these outdated views worry me :(
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    peach45peach45 Posts: 9,426
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    I didn't watch most of the programme so probably shouldn't comment, but i will. In terms of backwards views, if you were gay in Britain in the 80s, you definately would have heard lots of them.
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