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Shy people- do others ever assume that you're stupid?

RuinedGirlRuinedGirl Posts: 918
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Just wondering how shy people think they're perceived by others around them (and how non-shy people view people who are incredibly quiet.)
I'm painfully shy, and I've found that people often either assume I'm not very intelligent (for example in a work environment, people often disregard my opinion and assume I have no idea what I'm doing) or they assume I'm incredibly stuck up and arrogant.
Do you think being shy causes people to make various negative assumptions?
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    James FrederickJames Frederick Posts: 53,184
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    Yeah I think people have thought that of me in the past last year I went to my best friends party (which to me was a major deal) and before I got there she told the others if I didn't talk I wasn't ignorant or anything just really shy
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    I used to be painfully shy when I was younger, people often mistook it as me being rude or uninterested.
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    agrainofsandagrainofsand Posts: 8,693
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    Yep, this happens a lot RuinedGirl.
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    Flamethrower100Flamethrower100 Posts: 14,106
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    no, people seem to think I am clever. they wouldn't be wrong. I know I am always right. Nah, I just think before I speak. people tell me things and they are convinced they are right.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    I tend to worry alot what other people think of me but I guess thats the irony, is that its difficult to ask due to being shy. Its not like your going to say oh by the way, what do you really think of me? to acquaintances etc. I know you said how do you think your perceived but I guess it all reflects on the person themselves, that their having to guess and might be way off.

    I imagine some people don't have much respect for me because im so quiet and don't join in with every conversation, unless they address me specifically but then if I do, I end up interrupting and it'd be awkward and things, so, yeah :-/

    Someone once started talking about how she thought people should be able to stand up for themselves and to not let people walk all over them, that its wrong to sit and not react to things or know how to fight their corner, which I felt was them having a go at me but whatever, I just shrug my shoulders. I don't know for sure whether people automatically assume im stupid because im quiet, sometimes I make mistakes but I wouldn't say im a really stupid person, if anyone is stupid its probably the person who judges someones intellect solely on whether their loud or quiet.
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    wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 13,346
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    Sometimes people assume introverts are shy, but it's not the same thing. Not being talkative, nosey or over keen to spill your guts does not equate to shyness.

    In any event neither case gives others the right to criticise, assume or try to change others' behaviour , as they so often do.
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    RuinedGirlRuinedGirl Posts: 918
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    I got a bit upset at work today due to me making the same suggestion about something around 6 times and just being completely ignored. The person I was working with was adamant we should do things a certain way (and insisted we try again and again despite it going wrong on each attempt.) I kept politely saying ''Oh, if we do it the other way then it works better..'' Only for them to ignore me and carrying on doing it the wrong way. I eventually said ''Okay, but could we just try it the way I'm suggesting and see how it goes?''
    Even though I knew fine well (since I've been doing it exactly the way I was suggesting 6 days a week for over a year and it works every time) that I was in the right, I still just stood back and let her belittle me.
    Eventually (through sheer luck, and after 6 attempts) it worked, although clumsily and putting our client through unnecessary stress.
    We were also being observed at the time, and the two people watching ignored what I said and went with the other member of staff because she's more confident than I am.
    I ended up feeling like a complete idiot for not being more assertive, and quite upset that no-one was prepared to listen to me despite me having more experience and knowing the best way to approach the situation.
    People often assume I'm thick just because I find it difficult to be assertive. But I feel like it's my fault because I allow it to happen by not having any confidence.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    wazzyboy wrote: »
    Sometimes people assume introverts are shy, but it's not the same thing. Not being talkative, nosey or over keen to spill your guts does not equate to shyness.

    In any event neither case gives others the right to criticise, assume or try to change others' behaviour , as they so often do.

    Thats interesting - how would you describe an introvert then, out of curiosity?.
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    sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    RuinedGirl wrote: »
    Do you think being shy causes people to make various negative assumptions?
    People can be shy for various reasons, maybe it does depend on who you are talking to, some people can be easy to talk to and others may not be as forthcoming to talk due to maybe their environment.
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    RuinedGirl wrote: »
    Just wondering how shy people think they're perceived by others around them (and how non-shy people view people who are incredibly quiet.)
    I'm painfully shy, and I've found that people often either assume I'm not very intelligent (for example in a work environment, people often disregard my opinion and assume I have no idea what I'm doing) or they assume I'm incredibly stuck up and arrogant.
    Do you think being shy causes people to make various negative assumptions?

    Yes, I'm shy & have often been accused of being stand-offish.
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    Penfolds_placePenfolds_place Posts: 865
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    People have called me a snob for being quiet (I am very far from that). The people that think that are usually the loud ignorant types who don't like people different to them.
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    sandydunesandydune Posts: 10,986
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    RuinedGirl wrote: »
    People often assume I'm thick just because I find it difficult to be assertive. But I feel like it's my fault because I allow it to happen by not having any confidence.
    You can be assertive in other ways without realising and maybe that will be noticed. Don't put yourself down, some people might at times choose to ignore those that speak sense because they choose to for some reason but they know you are right, they just don't wanna acknowledge it.
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    bazzaroobazzaroo Posts: 6,848
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    RuinedGirl wrote: »
    I got a bit upset at work today due to me making the same suggestion about something around 6 times and just being completely ignored. The person I was working with was adamant we should do things a certain way (and insisted we try again and again despite it going wrong on each attempt.) I kept politely saying ''Oh, if we do it the other way then it works better..'' Only for them to ignore me and carrying on doing it the wrong way. I eventually said ''Okay, but could we just try it the way I'm suggesting and see how it goes?''
    Even though I knew fine well (since I've been doing it exactly the way I was suggesting 6 days a week for over a year and it works every time) that I was in the right, I still just stood back and let her belittle me.
    Eventually (through sheer luck, and after 6 attempts) it worked, although clumsily and putting our client through unnecessary stress.
    We were also being observed at the time, and the two people watching ignored what I said and went with the other member of staff because she's more confident than I am.
    I ended up feeling like a complete idiot for not being more assertive, and quite upset that no-one was prepared to listen to me despite me having more experience and knowing the best way to approach the situation.
    People often assume I'm thick just because I find it difficult to be assertive. But I feel like it's my fault because I allow it to happen by not having any confidence.

    That's awful! Ok, i'm a confident and extroverted person BUT if i am ever able to learn from anyone, shy or otherwise i'm always prepared to listen.
    Don't be too hard on yourself, you tried to help, if they were too arrogant to listen then they're the one with the biggest problem.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    I've been accused of being very selfish and rude in the past as well, when I didn't interact much with some people at and after an event, that was a big falling out. There was quite a rant about that, it was upsetting but now I guess I've realised they never liked who I was and other people are fine with how I am, so ill just stick to talking to people who are more like me and can understand my personality more, than trying to fit in with others who are more outgoing etc. I was particularly shy that day because I'd travelled on my own further than I had before, so I felt a little out of my depth, I'd never been there before etc. I just clammed up and didn't feel like I could say much, my mind was a bit blank.

    Its ironic if people think your selfish or rude when your quiet/shy because most of the reason your often that way is because your too worried about speaking out incase of what people may think, so like by not speaking out, you make them think that anyway, so its a bit lose/lose, that (if that makes any sense? im a bit half asleep at the moment :o)
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    Peter VenkmanPeter Venkman Posts: 1,769
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    I'm quite a shy and quiet person. I work in an office environment and I have realised that it gets you nowhere. Obnoxious, loud mouths get ahead (despite not being good at their job).
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    quatroquatro Posts: 2,886
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    Im very shy, always have been. As such people seem to think I am outside of normal life and therefore have no needs, so I get ignored [which suits them] as I don't put myself forward.
    I've been thought standoffish, when I've just felt intimidated by loud pushy people.

    I don't bother with people who don't take the time to talk to me and I prefer the company of [very few] people like myself. I think I rattle some people as they can't make me out.
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    imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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    I've been called shy in the past, and possibly still getting called shy, but not that I've heard for a long time. I've always said that I'm not shy, just quiet. I would rather observe than join in conversations and I'm also very comfortable with my own company and tend to turn down offers to socialise.

    I do find that some people do ignore what you have to say, but then there are others who hang on to your every word because they rarely hear you talk.


    However, although I'm quiet or maybe shy, I do voice my opinions very loudly when antagonised
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    StaceySkyStaceySky Posts: 570
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    I'm shy. I prefer to listen to people than answer there questions or join in there conversations.
    When people start conversations with me I can't seem to keep the convo going as I never know what to say.
    When people ask me questions I always answer of course, however I don't make a conversation out of it.

    I worry what people think of me. However once I tell them that I'm a quiet/shy person, I feel much more confident around that person and therefore able to speak to them.
    But yeah, when I first meet people I think that they think that I'm being rude or jut not interested. However that is never the case.
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    Harper_MilneHarper_Milne Posts: 2,854
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    I'm shy and have suffered social anxiety my whole life. Nah people don't think I'm stupid, they tend to think I'm more clever than anything because throughout school people think the quiet ones are the ones that are listening and paying attention when it couldnt be more futher from the truth I was just daydreaming out the window.

    I've found that people often patronise me because of how I am. I also get the feeling that people think I'm being anti-social and boring. I also feel that they don't know how to act around me.
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    izanamiizanami Posts: 2,788
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    Not stupid, but I have been told to stop sulking quite often.
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    Penny CrayonPenny Crayon Posts: 36,158
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    LOL=this thread reminds me of a funny quotation


    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    LOL=this thread reminds me of a funny quotation


    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

    Presuming you believe that, you think we're fools then? Cheers(!).
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    Penny CrayonPenny Crayon Posts: 36,158
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    Presuming you believe that, you think we're fools then? Cheers(!).


    No ............it was meant as a light hearted comment.


    Apologies for any offence - I thought this forum was for a bit of light relief:confused:

    My mistake.
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    tellywatcher73tellywatcher73 Posts: 4,181
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    I'm quite a shy person and not very good at small talk. People seem to assume I'm fairly clever but a bit stuck up. I won't argue about the clever bit (kidding) but I'm definitely not stuck up. My daughters are the same but my mum says when quiet people talk, they're saying something worth listening to.
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    ÆnimaÆnima Posts: 38,548
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    RuinedGirl wrote: »
    Just wondering how shy people think they're perceived by others around them (and how non-shy people view people who are incredibly quiet.)
    I'm painfully shy, and I've found that people often either assume I'm not very intelligent (for example in a work environment, people often disregard my opinion and assume I have no idea what I'm doing) or they assume I'm incredibly stuck up and arrogant.
    Do you think being shy causes people to make various negative assumptions?

    The problem is, you are being judged by stupid people, and they are poor judges of intelligence. They tend to value how something is said, rather than what is actually said. In this sense, they seem to continually confuse confidence with intelligence, and shyness with the reverse.

    I also think there is sort of a sheep mentality, whereby stupid people pack together and reinforce each others stupid ideas, and have a desire to agree with and suck up to what they percieve as strong (confident people) and attack what they percieve as weak (shy people), so they can define themselves in a social hierachy.
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