You should see Mourhino for the individual he is. He has a huge ego and likes to be the centre of attention no matter what. He'll say and do anything to get attention. As you rightly said a while ago, Ranieri built the squad bar a few additions that won those trophies at Chelsea, not Mourhino. Mancini also built the squad at Inter that did so well with the exception of Eto'o.
He's practically finished as a manager, and the best thing to do with an individual who has such a high opinion of himself is ignore him. Move on. When it comes to managing any club for more than two seasons he's incompetent. Those are the facts.
Absolute cobblers!
I take it they should also remove all the trophies he filled your cabinet with seeing as the man is a complete fraud and has piggybacked on the achievements of others?
He's practically finished as a manager, and the best thing to do with an individual who has such a high opinion of himself is ignore him. Move on. When it comes to managing any club for more than two seasons he's incompetent. Those are the facts.
Oh, I think he's good for three years at United. A couple of PL titles, while winning the Champions League once or twice with a few domestic cups thrown in. I don't think United fans will be complaining too much, they'll be able to live with that sort of failure.
The ironic thing being that most Chelsea fans have moved on, and are looking forward to seeing what Conte will do. You, Dixon and codeblue are the ones still harping on about Mourinho even though he left the club last year.
Yep, continually starting these threads and saying the same old stuff.
I notice they are still praising Liverpool managers, past and present.
I wonder why........well maybe there is no need to wonder.......
The ironic thing being that most Chelsea fans have moved on, and are looking forward to seeing what Conte will do. You, Dixon and codeblue are the ones still harping on about Mourinho even though he left the club last year.
Hey leave me out of this.
I don't mind commenting, but I don't start threads about it.
I'd rather have conte than Jose, what a shambles he is
United wasn't his first love and he's emotionally wrecked after Chelsea, hard for him to recover United are just getting a shell of the old Mourinho, who was a Chelsea F.C legend.
Must be hard managing one of Chelsea's biggest rivals, especially when he returns "home" to Stamford Bridge.
I don't mind commenting, but I don't start threads about it.
I'd rather have conte than Jose, what a shambles he is
You might not be the one starting threads, but you certainly never pass over an opportunity to get your petty digs in on him, as you've just done again in the post above. So yes, that puts you in the same bracket as the other two.
Yep, continually starting these threads and saying the same old stuff.
I notice they are still praising Liverpool managers, past and present.
I wonder why........well maybe there is no need to wonder.......
me praising an ex liverpool manager!
Was that rafa or rodgers you are thinking i praise?
United wasn't his first love and he's emotionally wrecked after Chelsea, hard for him to recover United are just getting a shell of the old Mourinho, who was a Chelsea F.C legend.
Must be hard managing one of Chelsea's biggest rivals, especially when he returns "home" to Stamford Bridge.
He's definitely passed his peak, but a bit OTT to say he's a shell of what he once was.
I would argue that winning the title with a far from great Chelsea team two years ago, was a better achievement than winning it with a peaktime Lamps, Terry and co.
Sering that he was sacked twice by Roman, but is now at the biggest club in the world, it just feels like the wrong thing to be saying. It casts a bit of doubt about where his heart really is.
Imho, there is no need for him to say another word about leaving or being at Chelsea. Just talk about Utd and their future under him.
You keep repeating that, but it's just not true. Using any criteria you want, Real Madrid and Barcelona are still the two biggest clubs in the world. That may change of course, and it could change financially by next season. But they still remain the two clubs who just have to click their fingers and players/managers come running.
Results from a 2016 survey by sportek.
Factors - Social media follower count.
Global TV viewership numbers.
Shirt sales.
Global sponsorship deals.
! - Man Utd.
2- RM.
3 - Barca.
4 - Chelsea. Very impressed by that ranking.
Well, Deloite and Forbes still put RM and Barca as the top two. But it wouldn't surprise me if United had overtook them financially in sponsorship deals etc. I'd be more surprised if they've overhauled them in shirt sales and social media following after recent seasons though.
It doesn't alter the fact that RM and Barca remain the biggest draw for players and managers though, does it ?
I can see that changing over the next few years. The top managers are already in England. I'd expect the top players to follow.
If I was a top player at Barca or RM I'd become bored shitless after a few years in Spain.
Every week in our league the players go out there knowing that if they don't show up they can get turned over home or away. There's far too many strolls in the park for Barca, RM, Bayern and PSG.
I can see that changing over the next few years. The top managers are already in England. I'd expect the top players to follow.
Yes, I wouldn't argue with that. Man Utd will need to regain their old status though and start winning things domestically and in Europe (or at least getting close). With the kind of money United have available that shouldn't be too tough.
Yes, I wouldn't argue with that. Man Utd will need to regain their old status though and start winning things domestically and in Europe (or at least getting close). With the kind of money United have available that shouldn't be too tough.
It's not just United.
The money that's now on offer will dwarf what's on the table from Madrid, Barcelona and Munich. United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs... they should all be in the mix.
However, I agree that winning things will be a crucial element. If the English clubs continue to fail to deliver in the Champions League, then their pulling power will be reduced.
The big clubs in Europe will always have allure, but if English clubs start to dominate, as they should, then I think that it's only a matter of time before the major players head over here.
If I was a top player at Barca or RM I'd become bored shitless after a few years in Spain.
Every week in our league the players go out there knowing that if they don't show up they can get turned over home or away. There's far too many strolls in the park for Barca, RM, Bayern and PSG.
Yes, I bet they're really envious of the chance to play a midweek game in January away to Stoke, Middlesborough or Burnley.
The money that's now on offer will dwarf what's on the table from Madrid, Barcelona and Munich. United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs... they should all be in the mix.
However, I agree that winning things will be a crucial element. If the English clubs continue to fail to deliver in the Champions League, then their pulling power will be reduced.
The big clubs in Europe will always have allure, but if English clubs start to dominate, as they should, then I think that it's only a matter of time before the major players head over here.
Yes, you also have to wonder how the Chinese super league is going to fit into all this. Shandong Luneng can pay a reported £230,000 a week to Graziano Pellè. In terms of sheer wealth they have money to burn and no annoying restrictions like FFP.
At the moment they're not attracting the very best, but if they really start flexing their financial muscles will the greedy agents be able to refuse ?
Yes, I bet they're really envious of the chance to play a midweek game in January away to Stoke, Middlesborough or Burnley.
Plus of course decisions such as this are not only based on "football reasons". There are many reasons why someone would pick going to live in places like Madrid and Barca over places like Manchester London etc
Plus of course decisions such as this are not only based on "football reasons". There are many reasons why someone would pick going to live in places like Madrid and Barca over places like Manchester London etc
But I not comparing Manchester to London I am comparing places like Barca and Madrid to places like Manchester and London etc , The order of the cities (in either country) in this case is not relevant
But I not comparing Manchester to London I am comparing places like Barca and Madrid to places like Manchester and London etc , The order of the cities (in either country) in this case is not relevant
I also think london has a lot of offer over Barca and Madrid in terms of cities to live in - especially if you are a multi millionaire.
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Absolute cobblers!
I take it they should also remove all the trophies he filled your cabinet with seeing as the man is a complete fraud and has piggybacked on the achievements of others?
This piffle has left me speechless.
Oh, I think he's good for three years at United. A couple of PL titles, while winning the Champions League once or twice with a few domestic cups thrown in. I don't think United fans will be complaining too much, they'll be able to live with that sort of failure.
Yep, continually starting these threads and saying the same old stuff.
I notice they are still praising Liverpool managers, past and present.
I wonder why........well maybe there is no need to wonder.......
Hey leave me out of this.
I don't mind commenting, but I don't start threads about it.
I'd rather have conte than Jose, what a shambles he is
Yep manager of one the biggest clubs in the world and is doing very well in the transfer window.
Childish utterly childish
United wasn't his first love and he's emotionally wrecked after Chelsea, hard for him to recover United are just getting a shell of the old Mourinho, who was a Chelsea F.C legend.
Must be hard managing one of Chelsea's biggest rivals, especially when he returns "home" to Stamford Bridge.
You might not be the one starting threads, but you certainly never pass over an opportunity to get your petty digs in on him, as you've just done again in the post above. So yes, that puts you in the same bracket as the other two.
.... until such time as Conte and Chelsea part ways of course.
me praising an ex liverpool manager!
Was that rafa or rodgers you are thinking i praise?
He's definitely passed his peak, but a bit OTT to say he's a shell of what he once was.
I would argue that winning the title with a far from great Chelsea team two years ago, was a better achievement than winning it with a peaktime Lamps, Terry and co.
Read what I wrote again. The first sentence is the clue.
BIB Lol No.
Exactly.
Results from a 2016 survey by sportek.
Factors - Social media follower count.
Global TV viewership numbers.
Shirt sales.
Global sponsorship deals.
! - Man Utd.
2- RM.
3 - Barca.
4 - Chelsea. Very impressed by that ranking.
Well, Deloite and Forbes still put RM and Barca as the top two. But it wouldn't surprise me if United had overtook them financially in sponsorship deals etc. I'd be more surprised if they've overhauled them in shirt sales and social media following after recent seasons though.
It doesn't alter the fact that RM and Barca remain the biggest draw for players and managers though, does it ?
At the moment? Perhaps.
I can see that changing over the next few years. The top managers are already in England. I'd expect the top players to follow.
If I was a top player at Barca or RM I'd become bored shitless after a few years in Spain.
Every week in our league the players go out there knowing that if they don't show up they can get turned over home or away. There's far too many strolls in the park for Barca, RM, Bayern and PSG.
Yes, I wouldn't argue with that. Man Utd will need to regain their old status though and start winning things domestically and in Europe (or at least getting close). With the kind of money United have available that shouldn't be too tough.
It's not just United.
The money that's now on offer will dwarf what's on the table from Madrid, Barcelona and Munich. United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs... they should all be in the mix.
However, I agree that winning things will be a crucial element. If the English clubs continue to fail to deliver in the Champions League, then their pulling power will be reduced.
The big clubs in Europe will always have allure, but if English clubs start to dominate, as they should, then I think that it's only a matter of time before the major players head over here.
Yes, I bet they're really envious of the chance to play a midweek game in January away to Stoke, Middlesborough or Burnley.
Yes, you also have to wonder how the Chinese super league is going to fit into all this. Shandong Luneng can pay a reported £230,000 a week to Graziano Pellè. In terms of sheer wealth they have money to burn and no annoying restrictions like FFP.
At the moment they're not attracting the very best, but if they really start flexing their financial muscles will the greedy agents be able to refuse ?
Plus of course decisions such as this are not only based on "football reasons". There are many reasons why someone would pick going to live in places like Madrid and Barca over places like Manchester London etc
There is no such thing as FFP now in the premier league.
I dont think can compare manchester with london
london > manchester > liverpool
as a draw for top players, based on area
But I not comparing Manchester to London I am comparing places like Barca and Madrid to places like Manchester and London etc , The order of the cities (in either country) in this case is not relevant
I also think london has a lot of offer over Barca and Madrid in terms of cities to live in - especially if you are a multi millionaire.