Have you forgotten that Ronnie killed Carl and that Jane was accessory to the killing of Lucy
I have not forgotten that but Carl tried to rape Ronnie and was an all-round knobhead, and admittedly Jane was wrong to do what she did and her character will never be the same again in my eyes
I find it much harder to forgive Ben because he killed a kind, likeable character who had only recently given birth. For me that is unforgivable
Ben served time for manslaughter. Yes killing heather was awful but it was not intentional and happened after a massive row where he hit her. It's not murder as there was no intent. Yes it was wrong. However he served the time he was given and pleaded guilty.
Because she didn't want to use it. As far as she knew, it was 100% her fault for killing Archie, it just took a nudge for her to realise that her mental illness was out of her control.
Two things wrong with this sentence.
She's isn't young, and he didn't batter her to death. Bit of a pointless exaggeration.
Because she didn't want to use it. As far as she knew, it was 100% her fault for killing Archie, it just took a nudge for her to realise that her mental illness was out of her control.
Two things wrong with this sentence.
She's isn't young, and he didn't batter her to death. Bit of a pointless exaggeration.
Because it wasn't a real defense. Her killing Archie had nothing to do with her illness which she knew but when her mum convinced her that Lilly needed her and that she had something she could use to get out of prison she decided to use it. She lied to get out of prison and that is the truth
Because it wasn't a real defense. Her killing Archie had nothing to do with her illness which she knew but when her mum convinced her that Lilly needed her and that she had something she could use to get out of prison she decided to use it. She lied to get out of prison and that is the truth
Well I watched it and that didn't happen. He hit her with a picture frame.
He still killed an innocent woman with a blow to the head whichever term you care to use.
I have not forgotten that but Carl tried to rape Ronnie and was an all-round knobhead, and admittedly Jane was wrong to do what she did and her character will never be the same again in my eyes
I find it much harder to forgive Ben because he killed a kind, likeable character who had only recently given birth. For me that is unforgivable
Being a knobhead, and even attempting rape, doesn't preclude your right to live, not by the letter of the law anyway
Top talent? That's hysterical. The lad simply can't act in front of a camera and is one of the worst actors on the show. But all down to opinion i spose.
The less we see of him the better.
Haha yes I agree. Tbh I find it embarrassing watching him pretend to be a hard man.
Yes, let's hope so. I also want t see more of Jay, but certainly Ben - he is the priority.
DTC should be making him Phil's Heir, and running amok on the Square, not hiding behind his dad all the time. Or are we gonna have Phil acting like the Mafia until he's 87?
Well they are trying to show that Ben is attempting to be the big hard man like his dad but he's no good at it. I hope when Kathy comes back he rediscovers his softer, musical theatre type side.
So you would rather kill a harmless young mother than an aggressive, manipulative rapist
I don't wish death in anyone but some people deserve it more than others
There seems to be about three tiers of characters on the show at the moment:
Carters, Regulars and Glorified extras: Jay, Lola and Ben seem to be in the third group
Haha yes I agree. Tbh I find it embarrassing watching him pretend to be a hard man.
Well they are trying to show that Ben is attempting to be the big hard man like his dad but he's no good at it. I hope when Kathy comes back he rediscovers his softer, musical theatre type side.
He is acting the not very good hard man though. I think he plays it very well and so do you from what you're saying
So you would rather kill a harmless young mother than an aggressive, manipulative rapist
I don't wish death in anyone but some people deserve it more than others
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I have not forgotten that but Carl tried to rape Ronnie and was an all-round knobhead, and admittedly Jane was wrong to do what she did and her character will never be the same again in my eyes
I find it much harder to forgive Ben because he killed a kind, likeable character who had only recently given birth. For me that is unforgivable
He smashed her head in with a picture frame.
And 40 is still young by today's standards.
Because it wasn't a real defense. Her killing Archie had nothing to do with her illness which she knew but when her mum convinced her that Lilly needed her and that she had something she could use to get out of prison she decided to use it. She lied to get out of prison and that is the truth
Well I watched it and that didn't happen. He hit her with a picture frame.
He still killed an innocent woman with a blow to the head whichever term you care to use.
Ben is repulsive little git just like his father.
Being a knobhead, and even attempting rape, doesn't preclude your right to live, not by the letter of the law anyway
Yes true but if someone is violently attacking you then it could be argued it was self defense. However the body crushing ruled that out >:(
Haha yes I agree. Tbh I find it embarrassing watching him pretend to be a hard man.
Well they are trying to show that Ben is attempting to be the big hard man like his dad but he's no good at it. I hope when Kathy comes back he rediscovers his softer, musical theatre type side.
So you would rather kill a harmless young mother than an aggressive, manipulative rapist
I don't wish death in anyone but some people deserve it more than others
Carters, Regulars and Glorified extras: Jay, Lola and Ben seem to be in the third group
He did kill Heather which is why he went to jail but now he's been released and I agree with the OP that I'd like to see more of him on the show.
Harmless? Did you SEE her episodes?