Could be important the basel result (losing 1-0) a 3-0 defeat tonight is not all that bad (considering the way real we're opening up the pool at times) could have been a lot more
Could be important the basel result (losing 1-0) a 3-0 defeat tonight is not all that bad (considering the way real we're opening up the pool at times) could have been a lot more
Considering how crap we've been so far, I'm not sure I'd want to witness us in the knockout stages in this form TBH!
What do they do during training? Can't defend or score from setpieces, especially corners, we can't defend, we're playing without a striker and relying on a 19 year old, and we don't seem to have must chemistry in the team.
Positives? Sterling played well. Coutinho was good in the first half and Lallana was good in the second half. Henderson and Joe Allen played alright, too, I thought. We also played until the end which I liked.
DS is going to be fun tonight.
until we start defending set pieces and high balls better we are gonna be struggling. its killing us and puts huge pressure on the team.
gonna keep saying it. Toure needs to come back in on saturday and sakho once he is fit.
0-3 it's finished so not as bad as feared at half time, but still a feeling of dissapointment that we didn't give them a game, even if they probably are the best club side in the World.
We'll need to improve massively if we're not to get an absolute thrashing in the return game.
If Balotelli continues as he has I think he'll be sold in the January transfer window, probably at a loss.
0-3 it's finished so not as bad as feared at half time, but still a feeling of dissapointment that we didn't give them a game, even if they probably are the best club side in the World.
We'll need to improve massively if we're not to get an absolute thrashing in the return game.
If Balotelli continues as he has I think he'll be sold in the January transfer window, probably at a loss.
gotta find a buyer first so I cant see him going in Jan.
Sadly, hardly any of our signings look like they were money well spent at this (early) stage. Balotelli is a passenger off the ball, and when the players behind him see him strolling around it gives them no incentive to work their backsides off to compensate for him. As for Markovic... I saw nothing in his YouTube highlight reels that made me think he was good and so far he's looked dreadful.
We simply have to defend better. As a team. How we go about that with no midfielders who know how to protect the back four I don't know. Something has to be done about our organisation and leadership on these set pieces though.
0-3 defeat nearly feels like a victory, yes yes they eased off but what was notable to me was not that Real won by 3-0 and comfortable but how they won the game and but also how Liverpool played in attack without their most potent weapon <b>and with Balotelli</b>.
I actually think Liverpool will take something positive out of this rather than it being a chastening experience which is what Ronnie Wheelan opined at the end, we actually saw pressing and quick thinking early on before the Real Madrid machine (over 600 CL caps in that starting 11) cranked fully into life. If the kind of application displayed can be shown in the Prem week in week out then its not all bad. Roll on Sturridge. The defence remains a mess of course but we knew that.
As regards tonights performances - Sterling and Coutinho were the most positives Mignolet, Balo the worst. If the latter doesn't click with Sturridge very quickly once he is back then he'll be on the bench and out the door in January.
Just to give LFC supporters a small lift - the U19s beat Real Madrid 3-2, and could and should have beaten them about 5-3. They were fantastic at times this afternoon - a few future stars in that side. Rossiter and Wilson in particular.
People questioning Rodgers is just ridiculous, we need to remember this is Liverpool football club, BR was on the end of lots of praise last season, now just because we're having a bad spell (bad? 5th in the league, still in with a shout in the Champions League too...) you're questioning him. Support the team and the manager, its our job to.
As for the game, disappointing, positives were Coutinho and Can for me, Sterling was great too but as he always is at the moment, defending is very worrying, I'd consider bringing Toure back in actually...seriously!
Maybe give Lucas a game too, give Gerrard a rest. As for Balotelli, just ridiculous, desperate signing and I'd like to see us give Borini a chance now.
I must be watching a different Sterling to you guys and BR. Almost every time i see him with the ball, he gives it away, trying to take players on and them taking it away from him and has been doing so all season long from what i've seen.
Let's hope this is the result that sparks changes in attitude and performance.
Last year we would have destroyed almost any team on the planet.That's what makes me so sad :-(
Let's hope this is the result that sparks changes in attitude and performance.
Last year we would have destroyed almost any team on the planet.That's what makes me so sad :-(
It is sad, I agree
I try to regard us a work in progress, though. The main thing is for us to say on an upward trajectory overall. There's still time for that this season.
Can you guess I'm a 'glass half full' type of person? ;-)
Hmmmm lots of anger at Balotelli swapping shirts. I have to say I don't have that point of view. How can Liverpool fans have a go at Balotelli, yet defend Suarez for far worse acts? Are we as fans saying that players can do what the hell they want as long as they are fabulous players? Personally I'd feel a fraud and a hypocrite for slating Balotelli when I've defended Suarez (rightly or wrongly) for far worse crimes.
It is becoming a witch hunt now with Balotelli? Personally I don't think selling him would solve anything at all. I think Stevie is a bigger issue and I think the defensive frailties are a bigger issue. Balotelli is an easy target that is all. I'll judge him when he has a proper run with Sturridge because I think Rodgers is doing him no favours continuing to play him as a lone striker. Almost sacrificial from the manager. Maybe Brendan didn't want him?
As for the match I don't think we played half bad, it was Madrid and to be fair I think they would have done a number on everybody in our league perhaps barring Chelsea and maybe Man City. It was the expected result. I just hope the confidence they built up against QPR has not been lost.
I have to say seeing fans throw their dummy out after losing to Madrid is rather amusing,it's also a bit pathetic to be honest.
Onto Stevie, do we think the manager has the balls to make a decision regarding him and how long he should be played for? Personally I don't think he should be playing as much as he is and should be limited to super sub and certain games.As much as I love Gerrard, its a decision Rodgers has to face up to. A far bigger one than Balotelli!
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Considering how crap we've been so far, I'm not sure I'd want to witness us in the knockout stages in this form TBH!
until we start defending set pieces and high balls better we are gonna be struggling. its killing us and puts huge pressure on the team.
gonna keep saying it. Toure needs to come back in on saturday and sakho once he is fit.
they cant be worse then Skrtel and Lovren.
We'll need to improve massively if we're not to get an absolute thrashing in the return game.
If Balotelli continues as he has I think he'll be sold in the January transfer window, probably at a loss.
gotta find a buyer first so I cant see him going in Jan.
Sadly, hardly any of our signings look like they were money well spent at this (early) stage. Balotelli is a passenger off the ball, and when the players behind him see him strolling around it gives them no incentive to work their backsides off to compensate for him. As for Markovic... I saw nothing in his YouTube highlight reels that made me think he was good and so far he's looked dreadful.
We simply have to defend better. As a team. How we go about that with no midfielders who know how to protect the back four I don't know. Something has to be done about our organisation and leadership on these set pieces though.
You are humiliating yourself with your poor spelling.
If nothing else, we would earn a lot of money by progressing. Money that could be spent improving the team.
We were well beaten tonight but we can still progress out of the group and, once we get to the knockout stages, who knows what might happen.
Clubs have won the European Title after losing in the first round.
I actually think Liverpool will take something positive out of this rather than it being a chastening experience which is what Ronnie Wheelan opined at the end, we actually saw pressing and quick thinking early on before the Real Madrid machine (over 600 CL caps in that starting 11) cranked fully into life. If the kind of application displayed can be shown in the Prem week in week out then its not all bad. Roll on Sturridge. The defence remains a mess of course but we knew that.
As regards tonights performances - Sterling and Coutinho were the most positives Mignolet, Balo the worst. If the latter doesn't click with Sturridge very quickly once he is back then he'll be on the bench and out the door in January.
Just to give LFC supporters a small lift - the U19s beat Real Madrid 3-2, and could and should have beaten them about 5-3. They were fantastic at times this afternoon - a few future stars in that side. Rossiter and Wilson in particular.
As for the game, disappointing, positives were Coutinho and Can for me, Sterling was great too but as he always is at the moment, defending is very worrying, I'd consider bringing Toure back in actually...seriously!
Maybe give Lucas a game too, give Gerrard a rest. As for Balotelli, just ridiculous, desperate signing and I'd like to see us give Borini a chance now.
Were in a bad place right now in the sense I think the team believes they will concede when they have to defend a set piece.
Would get Toure in on Saturday though. We need a change.
If you are a Man United fan, "When Manchester United Ruled Europe" is on at the same time...
.....................on The Fantasy Channel.
Indeed.
Would it be cynical to suggest that Pepe knew exactly what he was doing and how it would be perceived?
Last year we would have destroyed almost any team on the planet.That's what makes me so sad :-(
Whereas 'Liverpool: Champions of England' is currently showing on the (ancient) History Channel.
I dont think too many people had betamax between 1981 and 1991 - do you,Son ?
It is sad, I agree
I try to regard us a work in progress, though. The main thing is for us to say on an upward trajectory overall. There's still time for that this season.
Can you guess I'm a 'glass half full' type of person? ;-)
It is becoming a witch hunt now with Balotelli? Personally I don't think selling him would solve anything at all. I think Stevie is a bigger issue and I think the defensive frailties are a bigger issue. Balotelli is an easy target that is all. I'll judge him when he has a proper run with Sturridge because I think Rodgers is doing him no favours continuing to play him as a lone striker. Almost sacrificial from the manager. Maybe Brendan didn't want him?
As for the match I don't think we played half bad, it was Madrid and to be fair I think they would have done a number on everybody in our league perhaps barring Chelsea and maybe Man City. It was the expected result. I just hope the confidence they built up against QPR has not been lost.
I have to say seeing fans throw their dummy out after losing to Madrid is rather amusing,it's also a bit pathetic to be honest.
Onto Stevie, do we think the manager has the balls to make a decision regarding him and how long he should be played for? Personally I don't think he should be playing as much as he is and should be limited to super sub and certain games.As much as I love Gerrard, its a decision Rodgers has to face up to. A far bigger one than Balotelli!
In each of Rodgers two seasons we've got significantly better from January onwards. Bring on the knockout rounds