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Make or break issues in the election for me

TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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Forced data retention and mass surveillance - I cannot vote for anyone who supports such monumentally bad ideas as the Snoopers Charter or DRIP (just two examples). The right to privacy is not an elective, it's a requirement.

Censorship - Anyone who supports default filtering of the Internet is not someone I will vote for. I will not support the use of copyright as censorship on flimsy grounds. Be it pornography, torrent sites, so called 'extremist' (loosely defined) content censorship is not the way to keep anyone safe online.

ISDS (Investor State Dispute Settlements) - This is a bigger threat to UK sovereignty than the EU and I cannot vote for anyone who thinks giving corporations the right to sue governments is a good idea.

What are your make or break issues?
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    jcafcwjcafcw Posts: 11,282
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-general-election-miliband-and-cameron-neck-and-neck-in-fight-for-voters-trust-on-nhs-10004193.html

    It seems that the NHS is more important than the economy according to the linked poll. This does seem to chime with the lack of growth in the Conservatives polling despite the better economic figures. It is interesting however from that poll that Cameron is trusted just as much as Miliband on the NHS.

    For me providing affordable housing is big.
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    Forced data retention and mass surveillance - I cannot vote for anyone who supports such monumentally bad ideas as the Snoopers Charter or DRIP (just two examples). The right to privacy is not an elective, it's a requirement.

    Censorship - Anyone who supports default filtering of the Internet is not someone I will vote for. I will not support the use of copyright as censorship on flimsy grounds. Be it pornography, torrent sites, so called 'extremist' (loosely defined) content censorship is not the way to keep anyone safe online.

    ISDS (Investor State Dispute Settlements) - This is a bigger threat to UK sovereignty than the EU and I cannot vote for anyone who thinks giving corporations the right to sue governments is a good idea.

    What are your make or break issues?

    The trouble is that with our current political elite - both the parties that have a chance of leading the government post May support the Snooper's Charter or varients thereof. Labour tried to introduce it first and now the Conservatives.

    So I'm going to be looking after me and my family - and vote for the party most likely to leave me alone to get the most (and even that is looking increasingly unlikely).

    If I was younger I would be considering setting up my own political party.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 721
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    The democratic deficit, leaving the EU, cutting immigration, cutting benefits, especially for anyone with more than two children, improving community cohesion and integration, promoting the traditional British way of life, an affordable energy policy for the future and no mass house building schemes.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    The trouble is that with our current political elite - both the parties that have a chance of leading the government post May support the Snooper's Charter or varients thereof. Labour tried to introduce it first and now the Conservatives.

    So I'm going to be looking after me and my family - and vote for the party most likely to leave me alone to get the most (and even that is looking increasingly unlikely).

    If I was younger I would be considering setting up my own political party.

    I considered that but I don't have the skills needed for that as I am very introverted plus there wouldn't be much point in tribal NI.
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    BanglaRoadBanglaRoad Posts: 57,596
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    NHS, improvements to make sure a living wage is paid, more work in collecting taxes from serial avoiders, investment in building social housing and stop any move towards fracking
    The Truth you are in NI yeah? So how does the GE play out over there? Is it the usual bollocks about flags and marches or is that binned and proper issues get talked about? Sorry that sounds a bit sneering towards NI folk but don't know how to ask less bluntly
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    BanglaRoad wrote: »
    NHS, improvements to make sure a living wage is paid, more work in collecting taxes from serial avoiders, investment in building social housing and stop any move towards fracking
    The Truth you are in NI yeah? So how does the GE play out over there? Is it the usual bollocks about flags and marches or is that binned and proper issues get talked about? Sorry that sounds a bit sneering towards NI folk but don't know how to ask less bluntly

    If it is 'sneering' it is true. We do get the usual tribal nonsense in both Westminster and Stormont elections. The actual issues do get talked about but nowhere near as the tribal issues. That's one of the reasons I refuse to vote for the 4 main parties here. At least Alliance and the Greens try to stick to the issues.

    If the Pirate Party ran here, I would seriously consider giving them my vote.
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    MajlisMajlis Posts: 31,362
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    What are your make or break issues?

    I dont actually have any - I suppose its because my expectations are so low that anyone who seems half competent would get my vote.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    The Deficit. We're only half out of the hole we found ourselves in. Interest payments are the debt now £1bn a week - a jaw-dropping figure. We have to reduce the deficit as quickly as reasonably possible so we can stop adding to to that figure and start investing that money back into the economy and services.

    An English Parliament. With the same degree of control and influence over England as the Scots have just been given.

    Europe. Personally, I'm fed up to the the back teeth with all the discussion on Europe, Immigration etc. - especially as I think we're infinitely more to blame for our own problems than they ever are. Let's have the discussion, the vote, accept whatever the GBP decide and move on swiftly.

    The Public Sector. Any further growth in the public sector (beyond the obvious - i.e. more nurses etc,), any re-nationalisation is an absolute no-no for me.
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    BanglaRoadBanglaRoad Posts: 57,596
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    David Tee wrote: »
    The Deficit. We're only half out of the hole we found ourselves in. Interest payments are the debt now £1bn a week - a jaw-dropping figure. We have to reduce the deficit as quickly as reasonably possible so we can stop adding to to that figure and start investing that money back into the economy and services.

    An English Parliament. With the same degree of control and influence over England as the Scots have just been given.

    Europe. Personally, I'm fed up to the the back teeth with all the discussion on Europe, Immigration etc. - especially as I think we're infinitely more to blame for our own problems than they ever are. Let's have the discussion, the vote, accept whatever the GBP decide and move on swiftly.

    The Public Sector. Any further growth in the public sector (beyond the obvious - i.e. more nurses etc,), any re-nationalisation is an absolute no-no for me.

    Have to agree with your point about Europe. This needs settled and if we do decide to stay in then please God let us drop the sulky schoolboy attitude and try and work constructively on problems that the whole continent is facing.
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,387
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    What are your make or break issues?

    Spite.

    I have the chance of costing a Lib Dem candidate his job. I have to weigh that against voting Tory.
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    trevgotrevgo Posts: 28,241
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    1) Economy/deficit
    2) Immigration
    3) Secular state/constitutional reform

    The Greens would be my best bet for No 3, but I'd rather bite off my own arms than vote for those crazies.
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    trevgotrevgo Posts: 28,241
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    BanglaRoad wrote: »
    God let us drop the sulky schoolboy attitude and try and work constructively on problems that the whole continent is facing.

    You mean "capitulate".

    Bollocks to that.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 721
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    BanglaRoad wrote: »
    Have to agree with your point about Europe. This needs settled and if we do decide to stay in then please God let us drop the sulky schoolboy attitude and try and work constructively on problems that the whole continent is facing.

    Absolutely not. The UK should act in its own interests only, which means telling the EU to go forth and multiply. If you truly mean Europe, rather than the EU, then we should by all means support any action taken by other countries to protect our common culture, history and heritage. The biggest problem for Europe right now is Islamisation.
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    BanglaRoadBanglaRoad Posts: 57,596
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    trevgo wrote: »
    You mean "capitulate".

    Bollocks to that.

    No I do not mean capitulate for if I did I would have said so. It is attitudes like yours I was talking about.
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    TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    simsini wrote: »
    Absolutely not. The UK should act in its own interests only, which means telling the EU to go forth and multiply. If you truly mean Europe, rather than the EU, then we should by all means support any action taken by other countries to protect our common culture, history and heritage. The biggest problem for Europe right now is Islamisation.

    The biggest problem facing Europe is the same as is facing the UK, US and the rest of the world: debt. Islamisation is a bloody myth.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 721
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    The biggest problem facing Europe is the same as is facing the UK, US and the rest of the world: debt. Islamisation is a bloody myth.

    It is very much real, wake up and smell the coffee.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,772
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    None of this happen, but I'd vote for the one's most likely to

    1/ Bring in electoral reform
    2/ Tackle the debt based and fiat money issues/
    3/ End neo-liberalism, and find an economic policy inspired by Adam Smith not from those who pretend to.
    3a/ Anyone who admits trickle down economics is a lie.
    4/ Someone who can bring the corporations in line
    5/ Someone with genuine Libertarian views, not Neo-Cons or Anarcho-Capitalists pretending to be Libertarian.

    probably a few others I can't think of off the top of my head.
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    Lin4237Lin4237 Posts: 304
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    Can I add a few more please?
    1. Tax sportspeople, actors, journalists and other similar people earning money in the UK at source, don't let them send their money abroad to a "tax haven", i.e. if you play football/act/write as a journalist etc. for a UK club/company and you are resident in the UK you pay taxes through PAYE & NI like all of us.
    2. If EBay conducts sales in the UK and money is sent between buyer and seller in the UK then EBay should be taxed on those sales and VAT should be kept here in the UK not allowed to be earned by Luxembourg!

    Had my rant, thanks.
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    boksboxboksbox Posts: 4,572
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    Forced data retention and mass surveillance - I cannot vote for anyone who supports such monumentally bad ideas as the Snoopers Charter or DRIP (just two examples). The right to privacy is not an elective, it's a requirement.

    Censorship - Anyone who supports default filtering of the Internet is not someone I will vote for. I will not support the use of copyright as censorship on flimsy grounds. Be it pornography, torrent sites, so called 'extremist' (loosely defined) content censorship is not the way to keep anyone safe online.

    ISDS (Investor State Dispute Settlements) - This is a bigger threat to UK sovereignty than the EU and I cannot vote for anyone who thinks giving corporations the right to sue governments is a good idea.

    What are your make or break issues?
    Do you live in a constituency that could change hands? No amount of angst you hand wringing on my part will make much difference.
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    AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    As usual, I'm going to weigh up civil liberties before I vote. It'll be easier than last time because now we know exactly what the Tories will do in government rather than what they say they'll do.
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    xorosetylerxoxorosetylerxo Posts: 6,674
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    I don't usually care about politics but I don't really want the censorship of the internet as you know if you call to have the blocks off they will look at what you're doing more then someone who keeps the blocks on.

    Add to that privacy (snoopers charter thing)

    But the problem is I live in a Tory stronghold (as long as I can remember it's been Tory) so my vote isn't going to really make a difference
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    Phil_CoulthardPhil_Coulthard Posts: 2,843
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    For me it's....

    1) Somebody who will pull us out of the EU.
    2) Somebody who will stimulate growth and increase jobs
    3) Somebody who will NOT re-nationalize the Railways and the Energy Companies
    4) Someone who will control Immigration
    5) Somebody who will remove student loans
    6) Somebody who will not censor the internet
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    For me it's got to the stage where I believe principles and the general direction are more important than specific policies, and I would prefer a good and honest person to represent me rather than one who I agree with on every issue.
    The big 3 (Lab, Con and LD) are now so close to one another that it is impossible to choose based on policies, but the Con desire to attack the poor and disabled and line the pockets of the rich means I could never vote for them, in any foreseeable circumstances. The Lib Dems have shown they are not to be trusted and Lab have just lost the plot with their lack of internal democracy and promoting bullies and hypocrites to high positions (JIm Murphy, I'm thinking of you).
    The SNP is the party of the lowlands and very centralist and UKIP and the BNP are just beyond belief in some of their racist or anti-worker policies (even if they try to hide them). It seems the Greens are all that is left with their idealistic policies and general direction, but when it comes down to it, there are very few of their policies that I disagree with, but realise that it would take decades for the changes required.
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    StrictlyEastendStrictlyEastend Posts: 35,455
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    I already know who I'm voting for but if I didn't, these is what'd make or break me:

    1) NHS
    2) Efficient transport system
    3) Constitutional reform
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 513
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    Maybe rather than sanction benefit claimants with often non existent appointments & introduce the most evil and unfair policy since the Poll Tax, the Bedroom Tax just to save a couple hundred million. The next government might introduce a living wage so many people in employment won't need to claim as much benefits which could save billions alone per year. This would have the added affect to make employment a more attractive option for the unemployed to, saving even more.

    So bad are low wages and the cost of living now that more of the total benefits bill goes to the employed than the unemployed.

    Also scap the zero hour contract culture, which currently stands at about 1.4 million out there with no real guaranteed or constant hours under such contracts.
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