If it's supposedly for the environment why are they charging for paper bags too?
In California they have been charging for bags for a long time, even paper ones. I bought some clothes in Maceys, San Francisco and I had to pay for a bag to put them in. I'd never heard of it until then but was told it was to 'help the environment'. My question is, if thats the case, why do they insist on printing their name all over the bag? Im actually paying to advertise for them. >:(
Why do you all need bags? Can't you just put your items in a trolley, push the trolley to your car and then put them in the car? Can't you just carry your shopping?
Not everyone has a car but if you do, it's a good idea to keep a box in the car and put your shopping in that at the checkout. Much easier than struggling with bags!
Yes , but as I said in a previous post since the introduction of that levy whilst usage of suprmarket bags has gone down the sales of pedal bin liners has gone up by 77% and other bin bags by 75%, so all that has happened is people are going back to buying far less eco friendly bags to use at home for rubbish, so actually making a bigger problem.
Using percentages makes that a pointless comparison, I doubt the number of bin liners is anywhere close to the number of carrier bags there used to be
Why are people so obsessed with wanting tax things as a solution to everything can people not come up with a better way of doing things than go "TAX IT", "fatty foods tax em, sugar tax it, salt tax it, petrol tax it".
Has no one any brains to think of anything else.
Tax on petrol doesn't stop people driving, tax on cigarettes doesn't stop people smoking and taxing people on bags will not stop people buying one.
Why are people so obsessed with wanting tax things as a solution to everything can people not come up with a better way of doing things than go "TAX IT", "fatty foods tax em, sugar tax it, salt tax it, petrol tax it".
Has no one any brains to think of anything else.
Tax on petrol doesn't stop people driving, tax on cigarettes doesn't stop people smoking and taxing people on bags will not stop people buying one.
Well, I reuse bags now rather than buy new ones each time. I can't be the only one. Tax on other items is a useful revenue source of course.
Well, I reuse bags now rather than buy new ones each time. I can't be the only one. Tax on other items is a useful revenue source of course.
I always cycle and use a rucksack when I go shopping. I'm against the bag charge. I am in favour of some degree of localism so it's good it addresses a problem in your area.
That's a shame. I've only just noticed this thread so haven't read all of it.
What I will say is it won't stay at 5p whenever something is taxed it is used as an excuse in budgets to pay for something else like road tax barely ever goes back to the roads, petrol tax pays for government schemes and no doubt the 5p will soon increase to pay for something else.
What I will say is it won't stay at 5p whenever something is taxed it is used as an excuse in budgets to pay for something else like road tax barely ever goes back to the roads, petrol tax pays for government schemes and no doubt the 5p will soon increase to pay for something else.
At least this one is a tax which is easy to avoid!
At least this one is a tax which is easy to avoid!
Yes, it is. Buy some bags for life, keep them in your car and house, take them with you to the shops, no more tax.
Although, I think tax may be the wrong word (at least in Wales) as it is not collected by government. In NI, it is paid to Department of the Environment.
We have 5p plastic bags in NI and have had for over a year. I'm pretty certain the money goes to the government in this case though. The last lot of statistics I saw suggested that it was actually very effective in cutting down use of these bags, so that's a good thing. Besides, you get used to it pretty quickly. I was in York last year and tried to give the man in Sainsbury's a 5p for my bag. He looked at me like I was the biggest idiot in the world - I kinda was.
Not just plastic bags. It is ridiculous that it applies to paper bags as well.
Yes, it is. Buy some bags for life, keep them in your car and house, take them with you to the shops, no more tax.
Although, I think tax may be the wrong word (at least in Wales) as it is not collected by government. In NI, it is paid to Department of the Environment.
Don't have a tv - no more tax
Don't own a car - no more tax
Don't buy clothes - no more tax
Don't eat certain foods - no more tax
Don't smoke - no more tax
Don't Drink - no more tax
Don't use heating or electricity - no more tax (VAT)
Don't have a tv - no more tax
Don't own a car - no more tax
Don't buy clothes - no more tax
Don't eat certain foods - no more tax
Don't smoke - no more tax
Don't Drink - no more tax
Don't use heating or electricity - no more tax (VAT)
do you see a pattern here?
Oh Steve you have gone back into miserable whiney mode again, you were starting to get funny last night!
Yes, it is. Buy some bags for life, keep them in your car and house, take them with you to the shops, no more tax.
Although, I think tax may be the wrong word (at least in Wales) as it is not collected by government. In NI, it is paid to Department of the Environment.
Another tax on the disabled who can't drive and have short term memory problems.
Don't have a tv - no more tax
Don't own a car - no more tax
Don't buy clothes - no more tax
Don't eat certain foods - no more tax
Don't smoke - no more tax
Don't Drink - no more tax
Don't use heating or electricity - no more tax (VAT)
do you see a pattern here?
Not really. You can still do all your shopping without paying a bag tax or having to give anything up, so there's no comparison whatsoever.
Don't have a tv - no more tax
Don't own a car - no more tax
Don't buy clothes - no more tax
Don't eat certain foods - no more tax
Don't smoke - no more tax
Don't Drink - no more tax
Don't use heating or electricity - no more tax (VAT)
do you see a pattern here?
Yeah, the pattern is that being part of UK society costs everyone money - but there is some flexibility. If you want to have a government; armed forces; roads; a health service; education etc etc then you have to pay for it... but you can reduce that cost by not doing or reducing certain things. I think it is good for people to have those choices myself.
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I live in London and we do.
You need a bag charge or an anti litter campaign in a number of languages.
Carriers blowing around is a rarety.
In California they have been charging for bags for a long time, even paper ones. I bought some clothes in Maceys, San Francisco and I had to pay for a bag to put them in. I'd never heard of it until then but was told it was to 'help the environment'. My question is, if thats the case, why do they insist on printing their name all over the bag? Im actually paying to advertise for them. >:(
It's surely not a problem to either take a bag with you or to buy one?
Not everyone has a car but if you do, it's a good idea to keep a box in the car and put your shopping in that at the checkout. Much easier than struggling with bags!
I'm not going through this again.
Has no one any brains to think of anything else.
Tax on petrol doesn't stop people driving, tax on cigarettes doesn't stop people smoking and taxing people on bags will not stop people buying one.
Well, I reuse bags now rather than buy new ones each time. I can't be the only one. Tax on other items is a useful revenue source of course.
That's a shame. I've only just noticed this thread so haven't read all of it.
I always cycle and use a rucksack when I go shopping. I'm against the bag charge. I am in favour of some degree of localism so it's good it addresses a problem in your area.
What I will say is it won't stay at 5p whenever something is taxed it is used as an excuse in budgets to pay for something else like road tax barely ever goes back to the roads, petrol tax pays for government schemes and no doubt the 5p will soon increase to pay for something else.
At least this one is a tax which is easy to avoid!
I'm just commenting on what I have seen before and after the charge was introduced.
Whether it is right or wrong to have such a charge, from what I have seen so far it seems to have succeeded in it's environmental aims.
Yes, it is. Buy some bags for life, keep them in your car and house, take them with you to the shops, no more tax.
Although, I think tax may be the wrong word (at least in Wales) as it is not collected by government. In NI, it is paid to Department of the Environment.
Not just plastic bags. It is ridiculous that it applies to paper bags as well.
Don't have a tv - no more tax
Don't own a car - no more tax
Don't buy clothes - no more tax
Don't eat certain foods - no more tax
Don't smoke - no more tax
Don't Drink - no more tax
Don't use heating or electricity - no more tax (VAT)
do you see a pattern here?
Oh Steve you have gone back into miserable whiney mode again, you were starting to get funny last night!
Another tax on the disabled who can't drive and have short term memory problems.
Just proving a point Mr Muscle;-)
Can you disprove what I have said?
Not really. You can still do all your shopping without paying a bag tax or having to give anything up, so there's no comparison whatsoever.
Huh? VAT? on food and clothes?
So you go about your everyday business and don't pay any tax see how you get on oops you already paying VAT on your internet connection probably.
Yeah, the pattern is that being part of UK society costs everyone money - but there is some flexibility. If you want to have a government; armed forces; roads; a health service; education etc etc then you have to pay for it... but you can reduce that cost by not doing or reducing certain things. I think it is good for people to have those choices myself.
Indeed, and paying for carrier bags isn't a new concept. No one has to buy them and people can use shopping bags, same as back when I was a kid.