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Land Registry privatisation

mick rmick r Posts: 919
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Will the government now go ahead with the privatisation of the land registry .


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jul/11/land-registry-privatisation-vetoed-vince-cable
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    I can't see any mention of it in the Tory Manifesto.
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    GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    David Tee wrote: »
    I can't see any mention of it in the Tory Manifesto.

    There were no details of the subsequent complete top-down reorganisation of the NHS in the 2010 manifesto , so what does that prove?
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    AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    The Lib Dems also vetoed privatising Channel 4.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    It's making a profit. Best left alone especially as their expertise dates back to 1862.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    If they could sell the air we breath then the Tories would sell it
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    There were no details of the subsequent complete top-down reorganisation of the NHS in the 2010 manifesto , so what does that prove?

    Don't be daft, of course there were. 29 different action points on the NHS were listed in the Coalition agreement, itself a subset of the Conservative manifesto.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Don't be daft, of course there were. 29 different action points on the NHS were listed in the Coalition agreement, itself a subset of the Conservative manifesto.
    Why do you say Coalition agreement?
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    If they could sell the air we breath then the Tories would sell it

    Not before Labour have taxed it, though.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Why do you say Coalition agreement?

    Because that's what it's been called. If you want the full working title - The Coalition: Our Programme for Government.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Because that's what it's been called. If you want the full working title - The Coalition: Our Programme for Government.
    But that was written AFTER the election. Are you saying that voters should haveread it when they voted :confused:
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Not before Labour have taxed it, though.
    The Tories are the party of taxing things
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    ShaunIOWShaunIOW Posts: 11,326
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    It's making a profit. Best left alone especially as their expertise dates back to 1862.

    But the Tories mates in the City aren't making a profit out of it - thats why most things get privatised, like the Post Office as that was making a profit but still got privatised although the taxpayer got screwed over and the city made a mint out of it, as the pensions weren't transfered over as well.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    But that was written AFTER the election. Are you saying that voters should haveread it when they voted :confused:

    Read back: I said that the Coalition agreement was a subset of the Tory Manifesto. I use the former simply because the points on the NHS are listed as bullet points, that's not the case with the Tory Manifesto where it's just text.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    The Tories are the party of taxing things

    Clearly I'm back down the rabbit hole again.

    Remind me which party pledged higher taxes in both their 2010 and 2015 manifesto?
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Read back: I said that the Coalition agreement was a subset of the Tory Manifesto. I use the former simply because the points on the NHS are listed as bullet points, that's not the case with the Tory Manifesto where it's just text.
    So the Coalition agreement was just Tory policies? :confused:

    But then the agreement says Together,our ideas will bring an emphatic end to the bureaucracy, top-down control and centralisation that has so diminished our NHS. and We will stop the top-down reorganisations of the NHS that have got in the way of patient care. We are committed to reducing duplication and the resources spent on administration, and diverting these resources back to front-line care.

    Oh, and the manifesto mentions itself "reorganisation" once.
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    ShaunIOWShaunIOW Posts: 11,326
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Clearly I'm back down the rabbit hole again.

    Remind me which party pledged higher taxes in both their 2010 and 2015 manifesto?

    Remind me which party are the only ones to have ever raised VAT?
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Clearly I'm back down the rabbit hole again.

    Remind me which party pledged higher taxes in both their 2010 and 2015 manifesto?
    Which ones have raised VAT post election even when they claimed beforehand "we have no plans to raise VAT".
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    sangrealsangreal Posts: 20,901
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    David Tee wrote: »
    Clearly I'm back down the rabbit hole again.

    Remind me which party pledged higher taxes in both their 2010 and 2015 manifesto?

    Labour pledged higher taxes for those earning more than 150k and owning houses worth more than 2m, which is what... less than 5% of the population?
    I don't remember them pledging any tax increases for anyone else?

    The Tories/coalition pledged no tax increases, but broke their pledges by increasing VAT from 17.5% to 20% and increasing Class 1-4 NICs by 1% (which costs many taxpayers much more than the threshold increase saved them), and the Tories (Thatcher/Major administration) previously also introduced Class 4 NICs and Poll/Council tax.


    As for the OP, yes, I wouldn't put it past them.

    Though it would still need to go through a Commons/Lords vote, right?
    If just 6(?) Tory MPs abstain or vote against, then they can be defeated..... heh.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    Which ones have raised VAT post election even when they claimed beforehand "we have no plans to raise VAT".

    I see that you are still bitter about the GE result.
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    swingalegswingaleg Posts: 103,113
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    It's making a profit. Best left alone especially as their expertise dates back to 1862.

    Making a profit is the very thing that makes it ripe for privatisation
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    sangrealsangreal Posts: 20,901
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    I see that you are still bitter about the GE result.

    You expect the 75% of the electorate who didn't vote for the Tories to be happy?
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    I see that you are still bitter about the GE result.
    Since when is pointing out the truth being "bitter"?
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    TankyTanky Posts: 3,647
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    Making a profit is the very thing that makes it ripe for privatisation

    Exactly, no ones going to buy a business that isn't making money. Just look at how they sold the east coast rail line when it was returning money to the taxpayer.

    If it's making a profit, it'll likely be sold off, like everything else the Tories have since sold off.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    Tanky wrote: »
    Exactly, no ones going to buy a business that isn't making money. Just look at how they sold the east coast rail line when it was returning money to the taxpayer.


    Except that it wasn't really making money. It's easy to appear to make money when you're a subsidy junkie, are able change the franchise obligations to suit yourself, aren't expected to make serious investments in infrastructure or on train facilities, and charge the same high fares as the rest of the industry.
    Tanky wrote: »
    If it's making a profit, it'll likely be sold off, like everything else the Tories have since sold off.

    The reason why it was brought into state ownership in the first place was because it was unable to make money. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be partisan, Labour have had plenty of sell offs or attempted sell offs in their time.
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    David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    Remind me which party are the only ones to have ever raised VAT?

    Given that Labour raised in in January 2010 - no idea. And, as we all know now thanks to Alitair Darling, Labou would have raised in again if they had been elected in 2010.
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