Was Shameless groundbreaking and relevant?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQ8M9cIJNU
Fast forward to 3 minutes and 35 seconds with the scene involving Ian Gallagher, Lip Gallagher, Frank Gallagher and Debbie Gallagher. That scene sums up the show for me, I always found it rather powerful.
I never knew what to think of Frank throughout the series. What about you?
The eventually Maguire takeover was something I never adjusted to.
Fast forward to 3 minutes and 35 seconds with the scene involving Ian Gallagher, Lip Gallagher, Frank Gallagher and Debbie Gallagher. That scene sums up the show for me, I always found it rather powerful.
I never knew what to think of Frank throughout the series. What about you?
The eventually Maguire takeover was something I never adjusted to.
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Mickey was the only bearable member of that family (oh, and Mandy, for a bit).
I'll tell my niece Samantha Who played her😄 !
Depicting, something in a way it's never been covered before?
New fiming and editing techniques?
Something that leaves a legacy of programs that have taken elements from it?
Shouldn't really do this again, but I got out of the program a long time before it ended.
Family members just F'ing off between series without an explanation or exit storyline.
Program, I liked going to $hit for no reason peed me right off.
Seen the first couple series of the US version, very very different, but that brought me to tears at one point in the second series.
From Series 5 onwards the quality of both the writing and production just dipped more and more each passing episode. I eventually gave up watching completely around the middle of series 7.
The first couple of series were excellent - McAvoy, Maxine Peake etc - some terrific actors. The later series were dreadful. I never understood why the pikey family became the key characters.
American Shameless is superb, with some outstanding performances. I can't wait for the next season to start in January.
Unlike the UK version, they are mostly hanging on to their excellent cast.
And Emmy Rossum is sooooo lovely.
Americans seem to have loyal actors!
Steve and Fiona were in less then 20 episodes!
I think once Shameless expanded to 16-22 episodes, the quality went downhill and it went on too long.
As the other FM said in the US they make the actors sign up to very long contracts (5 or 7 years IIRC) from the off, whether they actually serve out that contract is another matter.
Also not so clever if the actor wants out or only got into it thinking it would quickly die a a death, money without the exposure.
Patrick Stewart's agent recommended him to do Star Trek the Next Generation as he thought it was only last a season but ended up airing for 7 years but I imagine the money and exposure Patrick Stewart got likely eased the pain,
The first couple of series were good. But it gradually petered out. It's rare that I watch episodic tv but I always watched Shameless when it started. Eventually I stopped watching it. 'nuff said.
The US version has done a very good job of not only capturing what Shameless UK was to begin with, but also running with it and making it their own.
What's she up to these days, still acting?
Certainly is At Oldham Coliseum this week
Nice one
Fiona Gallagher
Phillip Gallagher
Carl Gallagher
Debbie Gallagher
Liam Gallagher
Stella Gallagher
Nigel Gallagher
Delilah Gallagher
Ben Gallagher (revealed when he mad e a video thinking he was dying)
Step Children
Karen Jackson
Ian Gallagher
Grandchildren
Katie Maguire
(Fionas child)