Broken LG TV

Bought my 42 inch HD LCD Lg TV only 3 and half years ago I think for about £1,300 at the time. But it's developed a fault. When I switch it on from stand by the light goes from red to flashing green but not much else happens,...the Tv does not come on. It sort of goes through a cycle of clicks and flashing green lights and eventually comes on,.. but this is taking about an hour now and getting worse. Once on it is perfect as before.

So. Is it worth trying to get someone to fix it, or at least paying a call out charge to see what is needed. Or...should I take it on the chin and buy a new one ? I think the equivalent is about £500 these days.
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  • moogheadmooghead Posts: 771
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    The flashing green LED should be an indicator of what is wrong, check the troubleshooting guide in the manual. Google search reveals this http://www.fixya.com/support/t540992-blinking_green_light_no_picture_lg_lcd doesnt sound like a costy repair if its a power supply problem.
  • brillopadbrillopad Posts: 3,226
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    FlatTVparts is the place to get parts from.

    If what you need doesn't appear under the makers name use their search function as some boards work in more than one panel.
  • xtazxtaz Posts: 269
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    I had exactly the same symptoms on a toshiba 37wlt68 and found out it was a known manufacturing defect and I have instructions on how to fix it. I wonder if the two TV's possibly share components? On mine it was an IC on the signal processing board had bad solder joints and needed to be resoldered.

    If you can figure out if the signal processing board is the same part between the two TV's then I can tell you what it is. If it's totally different then ignore me.
  • Portabletv2Portabletv2 Posts: 167
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    Thanks all. But it looks like I will have to buy a new TV.

    I'm no electrician, so can't go trying to fix it myself. And phone calls to local repair centres have left me pretty depressed about call out charges, minimum fees, and possible repair costs. I don't even have the means to take the TV to the repair shop given that I'm at work all week and have no transport.

    I am almost convinved they will check my TV out then come up with a repair bill that makes it uneconomical to fix.

    Not good for TV that is only 3.5 years old !
  • AlanOAlanO Posts: 3,773
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    Thanks all. But it looks like I will have to buy a new TV.

    I'm no electrician, so can't go trying to fix it myself. And phone calls to local repair centres have left me pretty depressed about call out charges, minimum fees, and possible repair costs. I don't even have the means to take the TV to the repair shop given that I'm at work all week and have no transport.

    I am almost convinved they will check my TV out then come up with a repair bill that makes it uneconomical to fix.

    Not good for TV that is only 3.5 years old !

    Given it will cost you at least £ 400 to buy a 42" of similar quality, I'm not sure I agree with your logic.

    A call out should only be about £ 50. If it's an easy fix a competent engineer will do the job then. If it needs parts at least you'll have a view of whether it is an economic repair or not. The fact the TV starts tells you the panel is OK and that's usually the most expensive part.
  • Portabletv2Portabletv2 Posts: 167
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    AlanO wrote: »
    Given it will cost you at least £ 400 to buy a 42" of similar quality, I'm not sure I agree with your logic.

    A call out should only be about £ 50. If it's an easy fix a competent engineer will do the job then. If it needs parts at least you'll have a view of whether it is an economic repair or not. The fact the TV starts tells you the panel is OK and that's usually the most expensive part.

    The best discussion I've had yet with a repair centre is as follows,

    £60 call out charge to pick up TV
    £65 minimum charge to investigate (but will be deducted from repair cost)
    Power issue resolved, anything from £50 to £200 depending what power board it has and if it needs replacing
    £60 to bring the TV back to me.

    To me thats £170 min, £320 max.

    And once the TV is in their hands they will have me over a barrel claiming any sort of repair cost, and/or that its not economical to fix, such that I dont even bother to pay them to bring it back and they keep the TV.

    I should note that I'm in London where ripping people off is the norm !
  • AlanOAlanO Posts: 3,773
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    The best discussion I've had yet with a repair centre is as follows,

    £60 call out charge to pick up TV
    £65 minimum charge to investigate (but will be deducted from repair cost)
    Power issue resolved, anything from £50 to £200 depending what power board it has and if it needs replacing
    £60 to bring the TV back to me.

    To me thats £170 min, £320 max.

    And once the TV is in their hands they will have me over a barrel claiming any sort of repair cost, and/or that its not economical to fix, such that I dont even bother to pay them to bring it back and they keep the TV.

    I should note that I'm in London where ripping people off is the norm !

    Have you tried LG and asked who their service agents in your area are? A total of £ 120 for uplift and return seems a tad excessive.

    Also may be worth approaching either your local Currys store - DSG's repair guys do repair on-site wherever possible - or John Lewis (not sure who does their repairs) to get some quotes from them, not least because they are more likely to have a 'fixed price' for call out and investigation.
  • Portabletv2Portabletv2 Posts: 167
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    AlanO wrote: »
    Have you tried LG and asked who their service agents in your area are? A total of £ 120 for uplift and return seems a tad excessive.

    Also may be worth approaching either your local Currys store - DSG's repair guys do repair on-site wherever possible - or John Lewis (not sure who does their repairs) to get some quotes from them, not least because they are more likely to have a 'fixed price' for call out and investigation.

    Good idea re. DSG and John Lewis. But whoever fixed it would have to come and either fix here or take it away. I have no means of transporting it.
  • AlanOAlanO Posts: 3,773
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    Good idea re. DSG and John Lewis. But whoever fixed it would have to come and either fix here or take it away. I have no means of transporting it.

    I'm surprised more repairers aren't suggesting they'll fix on site. OK, LCD tvs are a lot lighter and easier to handle than their CRT forebears (as somebody who carried everything up to a 28" CRT I know what they were like), but it makes little sense to uplift the set unless the repair is likely to be particularly complex. And my understanding is that modern LCDs have fewer components and are easier to service than older sets.
  • Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,502
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    AlanO wrote: »
    I'm surprised more repairers aren't suggesting they'll fix on site. OK, LCD tvs are a lot lighter and easier to handle than their CRT forebears (as somebody who carried everything up to a 28" CRT I know what they were like), but it makes little sense to uplift the set unless the repair is likely to be particularly complex. And my understanding is that modern LCDs have fewer components and are easier to service than older sets.

    LCD's and Plasma's are FAR more complicated and difficult to repair, any on-site repairs are likely to be just replacing panels, which is VERY expensive - and requires the engineer to have the panels as well.

    If you've only ever carried 'up to' 28 inch sets, you haven't carried anything! :p
  • Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,502
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    Good idea re. DSG and John Lewis. But whoever fixed it would have to come and either fix here or take it away. I have no means of transporting it.

    As far as I know, JL don't have any service facilities, they just use third parties - and DSG won't even look at anything that isn't under their extended warranty, even if you bought the set from them.
  • tellymantellyman Posts: 612
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    Hi . I don,t know where you are,but it seems you are being quoted a lot of money for a repair. I have repaired many LG lcd sets, and in many cases the problem you describe has been due to faulty capacitors in the power supply or leaky surface mounted coils on the main board. In either case if I was repairing your set,it would cost less than £100 including collection and delivery.
  • pocatellopocatello Posts: 8,813
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    LCD's and Plasma's are FAR more complicated and difficult to repair, any on-site repairs are likely to be just replacing panels, which is VERY expensive - and requires the engineer to have the panels as well.

    If you've only ever carried 'up to' 28 inch sets, you haven't carried anything! :p

    Bingo, these things are so complicated, and changing so fast theres no way to train a technician to "fix" anything on them, its major part swap time. and in t he end, it generally isn't worth it unless your tv was very high end.
  • Portabletv2Portabletv2 Posts: 167
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    The TV does actually come on after an hour or so and then continues to work fine until the next time I turn it off.

    I'm no electrician. But doesn't this mean that the TV is proabably 'OK' except for some sort of power issue ? Doesn't this rule out some of the more complicated aspects that could drive a repair cost up ?
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    The TV does actually come on after an hour or so and then continues to work fine until the next time I turn it off.

    I'm no electrician. But doesn't this mean that the TV is proabably 'OK' except for some sort of power issue ? Doesn't this rule out some of the more complicated aspects that could drive a repair cost up ?

    Yes, it's probably just a capacitor issue as "tellyman" said previously:
    tellyman wrote: »
    Hi . I don,t know where you are,but it seems you are being quoted a lot of money for a repair. I have repaired many LG lcd sets, and in many cases the problem you describe has been due to faulty capacitors in the power supply or leaky surface mounted coils on the main board. In either case if I was repairing your set,it would cost less than £100 including collection and delivery.
  • brillopadbrillopad Posts: 3,226
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    The TV does actually come on after an hour or so and then continues to work fine until the next time I turn it off.

    I'm no electrician. But doesn't this mean that the TV is proabably 'OK' except for some sort of power issue ? Doesn't this rule out some of the more complicated aspects that could drive a repair cost up ?

    A complete LG power supply is only £59.99
  • brillopadbrillopad Posts: 3,226
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Yes, it's probably just a capacitor issue as "tellyman" said previously:

    Quite often switch mode power supplies fail with a bad 1 microfarad capacitor.
  • AidanLunnAidanLunn Posts: 5,320
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    Does it do this if you turn the TV off for a second? Does it come on straight away again or does it again take forever to warm up?
  • Portabletv2Portabletv2 Posts: 167
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    AidanLunn wrote: »
    Does it do this if you turn the TV off for a second? Does it come on straight away again or does it again take forever to warm up?

    back to square one after switching off and back on. Takes another hour to fire up again.... And is taking longer by the day
  • Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,502
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    back to square one after switching off and back on. Takes another hour to fire up again.... And is taking longer by the day

    Which again is usually a sign of high ESR electrolytic capacitors - as they get worse and worse it takes longer and longer.
  • Portabletv2Portabletv2 Posts: 167
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    Which again is usually a sign of high ESR electrolytic capacitors - as they get worse and worse it takes longer and longer.

    OK thanks. But I am no TV engineer. What is an ESR capacitor, and if you are right is this just a simple case of replacing that component ?
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    OK thanks. But I am no TV engineer. What is an ESR capacitor, and if you are right is this just a simple case of replacing that component ?

    You can't fix it yourself, it's dangerous. Is a TV worth your life?


    But such a fault is quite cheap to fix. But the need is to find someone trustworthy to do it.

    Or you could put it on Ebay as cash on collection and someone with electrical engineering experience will find it an attractive buy.

    So you might get a fair price.
  • Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,502
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    OK thanks. But I am no TV engineer. What is an ESR capacitor, and if you are right is this just a simple case of replacing that component ?

    HIgh-ESR is the common failure mode for cheap electrolytic capacitors, you would need to replace all the faulty ones in the PSU.
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