Surely the question should be "why did anyone ever take her 'seriously' in the first place?" It's just totally baffling - she's a bad singer, her songs are about as mediocre as you can get... seriously, someone please give me one decent music-based reason as to why Cheryl Cole is seen as some sort of important figure in music and showbiz?
Everything she says, everything she does, people just can't seem to help themselves but pay so much attention to her, for no real reason at all. Ok, so she mimed on tv the other day apparently. Who the **** gives a toss? What the hell you expect - a great vocal performance? Get real and just ignore her.
Anyone who takes Cheryl Cole seriously as a singer/artist (whatever) cannot honestly be serious about liking music.
I'll say it again. No she didn't as I'm one of a number of sound engineers that work for the BBC and I worked on The Voice for 4 weeks. Her people requested that her mic wasn't "live". SHE MIMED!!!
Also from a professional point of view, Kylie simply wiped the floor with her at the Jubilee concert, and received a massive ovation at the beginning and especially at the end of her set. Very impressive... It's a pity that the directional stage mics didn't allow for the TV to convey the crowd's volume. Cheryl should learn from better artists what her true limitations are and try to improve them. A little humility might also help.
A lot of people who were at that performance tweeted that not only was she stuck up (according to The Metro), but she stopped the performance twice as she wasn't happy with the dancing, and that she mimed without question yet again. These are now ex-fans btw. She even had her make-up artist re-do her make-up twice in between takes, whereas Katy Perry only did her's once, and she did it herself.
You have no credibility. First, you claim you were in the audience watching the performance at The Voice (in one of the original threads about her Voice performance). Then you claim you were her sound engineer, now you are claiming someone else was.
In your first slating of her in the original thread why did you not mention that you were the sound engineer at The Voice...it's only come about in recent posts.
Also...is it really your ''professional opinion'' or the fact you are a Kylie stan and have continuously put the both of them up against one another for some reason?
I'll say it again. No she didn't as I'm one of a number of sound engineers that work for the BBC and I worked on The Voice for 4 weeks. Her people requested that her mic wasn't "live". SHE MIMED!!!
Also from a professional point of view, Kylie simply wiped the floor with her at the Jubilee concert, and received a massive ovation at the beginning and especially at the end of her set. Very impressive... It's a pity that the directional stage mics didn't allow for the TV to convey the crowd's volume. Cheryl should learn from better artists what her true limitations are and try to improve them. A little humility might also help.
You must be really pressed to make u
A lot of people who were at that performance tweeted that not only was she stuck up (according to The Metro), but she stopped the performance twice as she wasn't happy with the dancing, and that she mimed without question yet again. These are now ex-fans btw. She even had her make-up artist re-do her make-up twice in between takes, whereas Katy Perry only did her's once, and she did it herself.
Obvious haters are obvious. There were journalist and people that tweeted about the performance that were there who said she sang live. Not gonna bother responding to u, because I too am a sound engineer at BBC
I'll say it again. No she didn't as I'm one of a number of sound engineers that work for the BBC and I worked on The Voice for 4 weeks. Her people requested that her mic wasn't "live". SHE MIMED!!!
Also from a professional point of view, Kylie simply wiped the floor with her at the Jubilee concert, and received a massive ovation at the beginning and especially at the end of her set. Very impressive... It's a pity that the directional stage mics didn't allow for the TV to convey the crowd's volume. Cheryl should learn from better artists what her true limitations are and try to improve them. A little humility might also help.
A lot of people who were at that performance tweeted that not only was she stuck up (according to The Metro), but she stopped the performance twice as she wasn't happy with the dancing, and that she mimed without question yet again. These are now ex-fans btw. She even had her make-up artist re-do her make-up twice in between takes, whereas Katy Perry only did her's once, and she did it herself.
Speaking as a sane person, this sounds like utter B.S, Ive just watched the performance and she was not miming, Cheryl is a terrible lip-syncher and I was watching the whole thing and not once did she look out of synch, people need to accept that she actually sang live for once and that she was actually quite good!
Surely the question should be "why did anyone ever take her 'seriously' in the first place?" It's just totally baffling - she's a bad singer, her songs are about as mediocre as you can get... seriously, someone please give me one decent music-based reason as to why Cheryl Cole is seen as some sort of important figure in music and showbiz?
Everything she says, everything she does, people just can't seem to help themselves but pay so much attention to her, for no real reason at all. Ok, so she mimed on tv the other day apparently. Who the **** gives a toss? What the hell you expect - a great vocal performance? Get real and just ignore her.
Anyone who takes Cheryl Cole seriously as a singer/artist (whatever) cannot honestly be serious about liking music.
Music is subjective not everyone can like the same artists or songs, s something that's crap to you might be loved by another. So is her voice, cause I like it
Speaking as a sane person, this sounds like utter B.S, Ive just watched the performance and she was not miming, Cheryl is a terrible lip-syncher and I was watching the whole thing and not once did she look out of synch, people need to accept that she actually sang live for once and that she was actually quite good!
Speaking as a sane person, this sounds like utter B.S, Ive just watched the performance and she was not miming, Cheryl is a terrible lip-syncher and I was watching the whole thing and not once did she look out of synch, people need to accept that she actually sang live for once and that she was actually quite good!
It wasn't live because you can hear the pitch correction. I suspect the occasional mumbling under her tuned voice was her live vocal. She did the same for FFTL and PT, and judging by her Jubilee performance I don't think she's inclined to do any different.
It wasn't live because you can hear the pitch correction. I suspect the occasional mumbling under her tuned voice was her live vocal. She did the same for FFTL and PT, and judging by her Jubilee performance I don't think she's inclined to do any different.
That's prob her worst performance.
I'm pretty sure it was live
That's prob her worst performance.
I'm pretty sure it was live
That's what I meant. The Jubilee performance was live, and if she sounded that bad standing still why do people still think she can pull off pitch accurate vocals with all that dancing live?
The Graham Norton performance was her singing live, it was blindingly obvious she wasnt lip-synching, and yes, she had a backing track but pretty much every popstar has one of those, her vocals were clear, and loud, and some of the "bigger" notes were sounding a little off but she gave it her best, she was dancing at the same time so its to be expected that she would be too out of breath at some points to pull of those notes, but she still tried, I give her props for that, she is improving.
The Graham Norton performance was her singing live, it was blindingly obvious she wasnt lip-synching, and yes, she had a backing track but pretty much every popstar has one of those, her vocals were clear, and loud, and some of the "bigger" notes were sounding a little off but she gave it her best, she was dancing at the same time so its to be expected that she would be too out of breath at some points to pull of those notes, but she still tried, I give her props for that, she is improving.
She was bending and twisting her stomach/diaphragm constantly yet her vocals showed no signs of deterioration. When actual live singers like Leona, Alexandra etc dance and sing live, they hardly move at all because it's near impossible to have a strong vocal while moving and bending around so much....and we all know Cheryl is not a strong singer, so all that dancing/moving around makes it unbelievable to me as a live performance. She recorded a new vocal in the studio with some flat notes etc and mimed to it. The only bit which she sang live was the oh oh at the end when her mic turned on.
That's what I meant. The Jubilee performance was live, and if she sounded that bad standing still why do people still think she can pull off pitch accurate vocals with all that dancing live?
Just something I said earlier to someone else, sorry if it's a bit aggressive
you clearly dont know that much about music because you will know every instance someones voice can be different. Could be due to the song, what that persons ate/drank, how nervous they are etc
Just because cheryl was bad at standing singing Need you now, doesnt therefore its impossible she could have sang Call my name steadily whilst dancing. CMN was in a studio, has lower range in the song, and had been rehearsed for a while. Need you now was in front of 10000's and the royal family and. live to millions of people, rehearsed fairly last minute, and in terms of cheryls voice is more challenging.
If you had seen and compared various performances of cheryls like
Set fire to the third bar at CIN
FFTL at T4
PT at Alan Carr
she can sing without miming, and I believe she did so at The Voice
Just something I said earlier to someone else, sorry if it's a bit aggressive
you clearly dont know that much about music because you will know every instance someones voice can be different. Could be due to the song, what that persons ate/drank, how nervous they are etc
I think I know enough. And more than enough to know how difficult it is to dance and sing live with a lot of choreography...even the strongest singers struggle, and Cheryl has never displayed strong vocal ability. Has she ever performed any of her solo material acoustically? If she can sing as well as you say, surely she'd have done that by now...?
I think I know enough. And more than enough to know how difficult it is to dance and sing live with a lot of choreography...even the strongest singers struggle, and Cheryl has never displayed strong vocal ability. Has she ever performed any of her solo material acoustically? If she can sing as well as you say, surely she'd have done that by now...?
Sorry that part wasn't meant for u. I just copied and pasted it straight across, forgetting to take the insult out, it didnt apply to you. She has performed acoustically though
why some people watch every performance she does is beyond me. its clear some people don't like her, yet they don't miss a single performance and dissect every single detail. seriously, just don't watch it.:rolleyes:
opinion is one thing, but if proper industry insiders claim it was live, then that is good enough for me.
Sorry that part wasn't meant for u. I just copied and pasted it straight across, forgetting to take the insult out, it didnt apply to you. She has performed acoustically though
I never knew she performed her solo material acoustically...? I'm not convinced at all that The Voice/GN Show was live....there was just far far too much dancing, bending of the diaphragm...her breathing would have been all over the place yet her vocal remained unaffected.
why some people watch every performance she does is beyond me. its clear some people don't like her, yet they don't miss a single performance and dissect every single detail. seriously, just don't watch it.:rolleyes:
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Contrary to what you might think I actually like some of her material/performances, but I'm not going to fool myself into thinking it's live when it clearly isn't. There really is no need to get so worked up over a harmless discussion.
She was bending and twisting her stomach/diaphragm constantly yet her vocals showed no signs of deterioration. When actual live singers like Leona, Alexandra etc dance and sing live, they hardly move at all because it's near impossible to have a strong vocal while moving and bending around so much....and we all know Cheryl is not a strong singer, so all that dancing/moving around makes it unbelievable to me as a live performance. She recorded a new vocal in the studio with some flat notes etc and mimed to it. The only bit which she sang live was the oh oh at the end when her mic turned on.
There were a few - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibI9yKrKYM
1:24 - as she lifts her body up, the vocal also goes up as you would expect with a movement like that
2:25 - the whole vocal sounds weak and tired from the performance
Also you can't really compare this to her Jubilee performance because Call My Name is mainly sung in the same key throughout which is quite monotone whereas Need You Know isn't like that.
People will think she mimed regardless but personally I think it was live w/ backing track.
why some people watch every performance she does is beyond me. its clear some people don't like her, yet they don't miss a single performance and dissect every single detail. seriously, just don't watch it.:rolleyes:
opinion is one thing, but if proper industry insiders claim it was live, then that is good enough for me.
I agree.
I personally think it was live with a backing track.
There were a few - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibI9yKrKYM
1:24 - as she lifts her body up, the vocal also goes up as you would expect with a movement like that
2:25 - the whole vocal sounds weak and tired from the performance
Also you can't really compare this to her Jubilee performance because Call My Name is mainly sung in the same key throughout which is quite monotone whereas Need You Know isn't like that.
People will think she mimed regardless but personally I think it was live w/ backing track.
Hmmm....this performance is one I'm convinced is live. She's moving a lot and the vocal is shaky, compare it to that performance you just linked and it doesn't add up for me...
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Everything she says, everything she does, people just can't seem to help themselves but pay so much attention to her, for no real reason at all. Ok, so she mimed on tv the other day apparently. Who the **** gives a toss? What the hell you expect - a great vocal performance? Get real and just ignore her.
Anyone who takes Cheryl Cole seriously as a singer/artist (whatever) cannot honestly be serious about liking music.
You have no credibility. First, you claim you were in the audience watching the performance at The Voice (in one of the original threads about her Voice performance). Then you claim you were her sound engineer, now you are claiming someone else was.
In your first slating of her in the original thread why did you not mention that you were the sound engineer at The Voice...it's only come about in recent posts.
Also...is it really your ''professional opinion'' or the fact you are a Kylie stan and have continuously put the both of them up against one another for some reason?
Is this credible to you?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/A-Million-Lights-digital-booklet/dp/B0089ZQDIQ/ref=sr_shvl_album_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1339199329&sr=301-4&tag=5336653544-21
Obvious haters are obvious. There were journalist and people that tweeted about the performance that were there who said she sang live. Not gonna bother responding to u, because I too am a sound engineer at BBC
Speaking as a sane person, this sounds like utter B.S, Ive just watched the performance and she was not miming, Cheryl is a terrible lip-syncher and I was watching the whole thing and not once did she look out of synch, people need to accept that she actually sang live for once and that she was actually quite good!
Not credible in the sense of her writing it/having a strong voice but it sounds like a decent pop album from the previews.
Music is subjective not everyone can like the same artists or songs, s something that's crap to you might be loved by another. So is her voice, cause I like it
Thank you
It wasn't live because you can hear the pitch correction. I suspect the occasional mumbling under her tuned voice was her live vocal. She did the same for FFTL and PT, and judging by her Jubilee performance I don't think she's inclined to do any different.
That's prob her worst performance.
I'm pretty sure it was live
That's what I meant. The Jubilee performance was live, and if she sounded that bad standing still why do people still think she can pull off pitch accurate vocals with all that dancing live?
Which performance?
She was bending and twisting her stomach/diaphragm constantly yet her vocals showed no signs of deterioration. When actual live singers like Leona, Alexandra etc dance and sing live, they hardly move at all because it's near impossible to have a strong vocal while moving and bending around so much....and we all know Cheryl is not a strong singer, so all that dancing/moving around makes it unbelievable to me as a live performance. She recorded a new vocal in the studio with some flat notes etc and mimed to it. The only bit which she sang live was the oh oh at the end when her mic turned on.
Just something I said earlier to someone else, sorry if it's a bit aggressive
you clearly dont know that much about music because you will know every instance someones voice can be different. Could be due to the song, what that persons ate/drank, how nervous they are etc
Just because cheryl was bad at standing singing Need you now, doesnt therefore its impossible she could have sang Call my name steadily whilst dancing. CMN was in a studio, has lower range in the song, and had been rehearsed for a while. Need you now was in front of 10000's and the royal family and. live to millions of people, rehearsed fairly last minute, and in terms of cheryls voice is more challenging.
If you had seen and compared various performances of cheryls like
Set fire to the third bar at CIN
FFTL at T4
PT at Alan Carr
she can sing without miming, and I believe she did so at The Voice
I think I know enough. And more than enough to know how difficult it is to dance and sing live with a lot of choreography...even the strongest singers struggle, and Cheryl has never displayed strong vocal ability. Has she ever performed any of her solo material acoustically? If she can sing as well as you say, surely she'd have done that by now...?
Sorry that part wasn't meant for u. I just copied and pasted it straight across, forgetting to take the insult out, it didnt apply to you. She has performed acoustically though
opinion is one thing, but if proper industry insiders claim it was live, then that is good enough for me.
I never knew she performed her solo material acoustically...? I'm not convinced at all that The Voice/GN Show was live....there was just far far too much dancing, bending of the diaphragm...her breathing would have been all over the place yet her vocal remained unaffected.
Contrary to what you might think I actually like some of her material/performances, but I'm not going to fool myself into thinking it's live when it clearly isn't. There really is no need to get so worked up over a harmless discussion.
There were a few - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibI9yKrKYM
1:24 - as she lifts her body up, the vocal also goes up as you would expect with a movement like that
2:25 - the whole vocal sounds weak and tired from the performance
Also you can't really compare this to her Jubilee performance because Call My Name is mainly sung in the same key throughout which is quite monotone whereas Need You Know isn't like that.
People will think she mimed regardless but personally I think it was live w/ backing track.
I agree.
I personally think it was live with a backing track.
Hmmm....this performance is one I'm convinced is live. She's moving a lot and the vocal is shaky, compare it to that performance you just linked and it doesn't add up for me...